Mobiles as modems.

I had a response from T-Mobile who do a web 'n' walk service add on to
their price plans. Does anyone have an experience of this or similar
services?

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher...ink=paymonthly

Doug.

"Doug" <doug@zing.icom43.net> writes:

> I had a response from T-Mobile who do a web 'n' walk service add on to
> their price plans. Does anyone have an experience of this or similar
> services?
>
I have a T-Mobile contract, with Web'n'walk plus, and use my phone as a modem.
It works great.

In order to use the phone as a modem, or for streaming, you need web'n'walk
plus (£12 ish) , not the basic £7.50.

HTH Phil

On 11 Jan 2007 12:37:09 +0000, Phil<pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk>
wrote:

>In order to use the phone as a modem, or for streaming, you need web'n'walk
>plus (£12 ish) , not the basic £7.50.

On what basis do you say that? I know you are supposed to pay the
extra, but is it actually necessary? Would the £1 per day PAYG be as
good?

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hairydog@despammed.com writes:

> On 11 Jan 2007 12:37:09 +0000, Phil<pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >In order to use the phone as a modem, or for streaming, you need web'n'walk
> >plus (£12 ish) , not the basic £7.50.
>
> On what basis do you say that? I know you are supposed to pay the
> extra, but is it actually necessary? Would the £1 per day PAYG be as
> good?
>
Basic honesty I suppose.

£1 a day would cost me a lot more than £12/month. For the £12 you also get 3GB
of data, instead of 1GB.

Listening to 6music over 3G at my desk, web'n'walk is great

Phil

Phil <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> ?1 a day would cost me a lot more than ?12/month. For the ?12 you also get
> 3GB of data, instead of 1GB.
>
> Listening to 6music over 3G at my desk, web'n'walk is great

What's the latency like on 3G web'n'walk? Pinging a random site on Orange
GPRS using Bluetooth (Nokia 6820) gave me 800-1300ms latency, which was a
bit to much to use SSH over. Is 3G any better?

Theo

"Theo Markettos" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
news:Wdr*aCQAr@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
> What's the latency like on 3G web'n'walk? Pinging a random site on Orange
> GPRS using Bluetooth (Nokia 6820) gave me 800-1300ms latency, which was a
> bit to much to use SSH over. Is 3G any better?

T-Mobile Web n Walk using the data card in a PCMCIA slot gives ping times of
around 100ms on a few random sites I tried.

However, the service as a whole has been increasingly unreliable recently
(in WC1). When I first joined, I always connected at 1.8MBps and got rock
solid 125 kilobytes/sec download. Now, it the connection keeps seizing up
or stopping altogether, or downloading a few seconds then stopping then
starting again. I don't know if this reflects an increasing number of
people using it.

JP



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>
> However, the service as a whole has been increasingly unreliable recently
> (in WC1). When I first joined, I always connected at 1.8MBps and got rock
> solid 125 kilobytes/sec download. Now, it the connection keeps seizing up
> or stopping altogether, or downloading a few seconds then stopping then
> starting again. I don't know if this reflects an increasing number of
> people using it.
>

Similar to my experience with 2.5G GPRS in some areas.

It used to be rock solid but now from time to time the connection dies.
Sometimes retrying will help at others nothing short of power cycling
the phone will do it.

This usually coincides with the peak times. It seems that there is
either a very unfriendly "stop responding" policy or some handsets and
data cards don't reconnect gracefully.

Steve.

Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Phil <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote:
>> ?1 a day would cost me a lot more than ?12/month. For the ?12 you also get
>> 3GB of data, instead of 1GB.
>>
>> Listening to 6music over 3G at my desk, web'n'walk is great

> What's the latency like on 3G web'n'walk? Pinging a random site on Orange
> GPRS using Bluetooth (Nokia 6820) gave me 800-1300ms latency, which was a
> bit to much to use SSH over. Is 3G any better?

Could have been a bad time coupled with unforgiving software. I've
never tried to measure latency, but I often use GPRS on Orange with
SSH to access my office filestore and very rarely have any
problems. Over the years it's worked well with Nokia 6310i, 6230i, and
9500. Sometimes it's a bit hesitant in echoing what I type, and on
rare bad ocassions will sometimes go quiet for a few to several
seconds, but usually it's as fast as needed for typing work.

But I don't use it with Bluetooth, I use infrared or a wired
connection. Could there be some interference between Bluetooth and
GPRS?

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Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> What's the latency like on 3G web'n'walk? Pinging a random site on Orange
>> GPRS using Bluetooth (Nokia 6820) gave me 800-1300ms latency, which was a
>> bit to much to use SSH over. Is 3G any better?
>
> Could have been a bad time coupled with unforgiving software.

Perhaps... though over several days it was the same. It was slow enough
that I wasn't happy typing email on it, because I'd usually be a few words
ahead of the echo.

> But I don't use it with Bluetooth, I use infrared or a wired
> connection. Could there be some interference between Bluetooth and
> GPRS?

I doubt it... it provides a Bluetooth modem to access the GPRS so it'd be a
bit foolish if it did interfere. But I wonder what the latency on the
Bluetooth is? I don't have a cable to compare.

Theo

Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>>> What's the latency like on 3G web'n'walk? Pinging a random site on Orange
>>> GPRS using Bluetooth (Nokia 6820) gave me 800-1300ms latency, which was a
>>> bit to much to use SSH over. Is 3G any better?
>>
>> Could have been a bad time coupled with unforgiving software.

> Perhaps... though over several days it was the same. It was slow enough
> that I wasn't happy typing email on it, because I'd usually be a few words
> ahead of the echo.

I've never encountered that. Sometimes it will be a few chars behind
my typing, or else it will just just give up for many seconds
altogether.

>> But I don't use it with Bluetooth, I use infrared or a wired
>> connection. Could there be some interference between Bluetooth and
>> GPRS?

> I doubt it... it provides a Bluetooth modem to access the GPRS so it'd be a
> bit foolish if it did interfere. But I wonder what the latency on the
> Bluetooth is? I don't have a cable to compare.

I'd suspect delays in the Bluetooth or in the PDA software. I've used
a few different virtual terminal programs in my PDAs, and some of them
have been very much slower than others, to the extent of failing to
keep up with typing in the way you mention.

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