Government Told Telstra CDMA Network Will Be Closed Down

10-18-2007, 04:20 PM

From
http://www.smarthousenews.com.au/Com...ustry/A7F4W9X2

Telstra has flung a new challenge to the Howard Government - now in
caretaker mode - declaring its Next G network has now achieved the same or
better coverage as the CDMA network - and stating it is "on track" to close
the CDMA network on January 28.

But the Big T faces the obstacle of a condition imposed on its CDMA licence
by Attorney-General Philip Ruddock which prevent a switch-off before the
Government is satisfied with Next G coverage.

The Government is relying not on Telstra's word, but on an independent
survey by the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) to
determine if Next G coverage meets CDMA levels.

Telstra yesterday declared extensive testing conducted by its own teams with
strategic partner Ericsson had already shown the Next G network is "bigger,
better and faster than CDMA...

10-18-2007, 08:16 PM

Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote
> From
> http://www.smarthousenews.com.au/Com...ustry/A7F4W9X2

> Telstra has flung a new challenge to the Howard Government

Nope, just shot is feet completely off, again.

> - now in caretaker mode - declaring its Next G network has now achieved the same or better coverage as the CDMA
> network -

Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> and stating it is "on track" to close the CDMA network on January 28.

And we will see if the independant referee agrees.

> But the Big T faces the obstacle of a condition imposed on its CDMA
> licence by Attorney-General Philip Ruddock which prevent a switch-off
> before the Government is satisfied with Next G coverage.

And if the govt has a clue, it will prevent telstra from ever turning the cdma system off too.

> The Government is relying not on Telstra's word, but on an independent
> survey by the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) to determine if Next G coverage meets CDMA levels.

And three guesses if they will agree with telstra.

> Telstra yesterday declared extensive testing conducted by its own teams with strategic partner Ericsson had already
> shown the Next G network is "bigger, better and faster than CDMA...

And we will see if the independant referee agrees.

10-18-2007, 11:53 PM

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:20:57 GMT in aus.comms.mobile Alan Parkington may have written:
> Telstra yesterday declared extensive testing conducted by its own
> teams with strategic partner Ericsson had already shown the Next G
> network is "bigger, better and faster than CDMA...

But does it cover all of the footprint currently provided by CDMA?

PD

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Paul Day

10-19-2007, 06:10 AM

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:53:05 -0000, Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:20:57 GMT in aus.comms.mobile Alan Parkington may have written:
>> Telstra yesterday declared extensive testing conducted by its own
>> teams with strategic partner Ericsson had already shown the Next G
>> network is "bigger, better and faster than CDMA...
>
>But does it cover all of the footprint currently provided by CDMA?

That's a trick question. With the "robbing" of CDMA coverage (via bandwidth)
Tel$tra have downgraded CDMA in a number of areas to the point where 3G just
might match CDMA_NOW

10-19-2007, 06:28 AM

watch the birdie wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:53:05 -0000, Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:20:57 GMT in aus.comms.mobile Alan Parkington may have written:
>>> Telstra yesterday declared extensive testing conducted by its own
>>> teams with strategic partner Ericsson had already shown the Next G
>>> network is "bigger, better and faster than CDMA...
>> But does it cover all of the footprint currently provided by CDMA?
>
> That's a trick question. With the "robbing" of CDMA coverage (via bandwidth)
> Tel$tra have downgraded CDMA
in a number of areas to the point where 3G just
> might match CDMA_NOW

That's ribbish, I'm sick of hearing it. Next-G coverage matches CDMA,
it's only the crappy Next G handsets which are impeding coverage.

For Telstra to shutdown CDMA they need to make sure they can supply
reasonable C-grade handsets to consumers. That's all that is hindering
the closure of CDMA.

10-19-2007, 07:04 AM

> For Telstra to shutdown CDMA they need to make sure they can supply
> reasonable C-grade handsets to consumers. That's all that is hindering
> the closure of CDMA.
The real problem is that they force the crappy handsets down your throat
(LG, ZTE etc) and make it hard (and expensive) to get the good handsets
like the Motorola V6 MAXX and the Motorola V3xx and whatever that Nokia one is.

10-19-2007, 08:33 AM

"Jonathan Wilson" <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
news:4718ab5a$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> For Telstra to shutdown CDMA they need to make sure they can supply
>> reasonable C-grade handsets to consumers. That's all that is hindering
>> the closure of CDMA.
> The real problem is that they force the crappy handsets down your throat
> (LG, ZTE etc) and make it hard (and expensive) to get the good handsets
> like the Motorola V6 MAXX and the Motorola V3xx and whatever that Nokia
> one is.

NEXT-g Nokia and Motorolas don't get the blue tick so you are in fact just
waffling on with bull****

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10-19-2007, 10:21 PM

bill wrote:

> That's ribbish, I'm sick of hearing it.
So put some earmuffs on.

Next-G coverage matches CDMA,

I know at least three areas where NextG coverage does not match CDMA.Period.

10-20-2007, 12:46 AM

Alice wrote:
> bill wrote:
>
>> That's ribbish, I'm sick of hearing it.
> So put some earmuffs on.
>
> Next-G coverage matches CDMA,
>
> I know at least three areas where NextG coverage does not match
> CDMA.Period.
>

How are you measuring that when there is no handset that can do both.
Most Next G handsets can access the GSM network but there's no CDMA
compatibility.

10-20-2007, 01:22 AM

"bill" <someone@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:ffc89j$21gi$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> Alice wrote:
>> bill wrote:
>>
>>> That's ribbish, I'm sick of hearing it.
>> So put some earmuffs on.
>>
>> Next-G coverage matches CDMA,
>>
>> I know at least three areas where NextG coverage does not match
>> CDMA.Period.
>>
>
> How are you measuring that when there is no handset that can do both.

Not too difficult to carry 2 handsets........

> Most Next G handsets can access the GSM network but there's no CDMA
> compatibility.

What's that got to do with it?

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Kwyj.

10-20-2007, 08:37 AM

Kwyjibo wrote:
> "bill" <someone@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
> news:ffc89j$21gi$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>> Alice wrote:
>>> bill wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's ribbish, I'm sick of hearing it.
>>> So put some earmuffs on.
>>>
>>> Next-G coverage matches CDMA,
>>>
>>> I know at least three areas where NextG coverage does not match
>>> CDMA.Period.
>>>
>> How are you measuring that when there is no handset that can do both.
>
> Not too difficult to carry 2 handsets........

Different handsets will have different results no matter what network
they're on.

>
>> Most Next G handsets can access the GSM network but there's no CDMA
>> compatibility.
>
> What's that got to do with it?
>

The fact that you need one handset to test coverage. You can easily
compare Next G and GSM from the one handset but not CDMA and Next G.

10-20-2007, 05:08 PM

"bill" <someone@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:ffd3s8$265h$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> Kwyjibo wrote:
>> "bill" <someone@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:ffc89j$21gi$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>> Alice wrote:
>>>> bill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's ribbish, I'm sick of hearing it.
>>>> So put some earmuffs on.
>>>>
>>>> Next-G coverage matches CDMA,
>>>>
>>>> I know at least three areas where NextG coverage does not match
>>>> CDMA.Period.
>>>>
>>> How are you measuring that when there is no handset that can do both.
>>
>> Not too difficult to carry 2 handsets........
>
> Different handsets will have different results no matter what network
> they're on.

So would a single handset that operates in both modes.

>
>>
>>> Most Next G handsets can access the GSM network but there's no CDMA
>>> compatibility.
>>
>> What's that got to do with it?
>>
>
> The fact that you need one handset to test coverage.

Bull****.

> You can easily compare Next G and GSM from the one handset

Wrong.

> but not CDMA and Next G.

They both have the same problem.

--
Kwyj.

10-28-2007, 12:42 AM

"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
news:1192773185.335654@colossus.enigma.id.au...
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:20:57 GMT in aus.comms.mobile Alan Parkington may
> have written:
>> Telstra yesterday declared extensive testing conducted by its own
>> teams with strategic partner Ericsson had already shown the Next G
>> network is "bigger, better and faster than CDMA...
>
> But does it cover all of the footprint currently provided by CDMA?

Nope, in the same fashion that CDMA never covered every square inch that
AMPS did, and that GSM never covered every square inch that AMPS did
>
> PD
>
> --
> Paul Day

10-28-2007, 12:43 AM

"Alice" <e@****anddie.com> wrote in message
news:471982e3$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> bill wrote:
>
>> That's ribbish, I'm sick of hearing it.
> So put some earmuffs on.
>
> Next-G coverage matches CDMA,
>
> I know at least three areas where NextG coverage does not match
> CDMA.Period.

No one ever claimed that "NextG would cover every area that CDMA does"
>

10-28-2007, 02:59 AM

Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Alice" <e@****anddie.com> wrote in message
> news:471982e3$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> bill wrote:
>>
>>> That's ribbish, I'm sick of hearing it.
>> So put some earmuffs on.
>>
>> Next-G coverage matches CDMA,
>>
>> I know at least three areas where NextG coverage does not match
>> CDMA.Period.
>
> No one ever claimed that "NextG would cover every area that CDMA does"

Telstra did, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.