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Old 12-28-2007, 10:48 AM   #31
SMS 斯蒂文• 夏
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Pegleg wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:25:19 GMT, Bob Scheurle <njtbob2@X-verizon-X.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Not only that, but I travel on roads with - gasp! - no coverage at all!
>>
>> I traveled for 45 years without a cell phone. I think I can manage
>> without one for a bit, thank you.

>
> Yea, no ****...does that idiot realize there are huge areas of the US
> that don't have any kind of coverage? Are we only suppose to travel
> where there is cell coverage? That would be a pretty damn boring life!


Obviously sarcasm doesn't work well on Usenet.


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Old 12-28-2007, 12:41 PM   #32
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Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in
news:r7dan3hj9htptp2kutllob927v75moquj4@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:25:19 GMT, Bob Scheurle <njtbob2@X-verizon-

X.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Not only that, but I travel on roads with - gasp! - no coverage at

all!
>>
>>I traveled for 45 years without a cell phone. I think I can manage
>>without one for a bit, thank you.

>
> Yea, no ****...does that idiot realize there are huge areas of the

US
> that don't have any kind of coverage? Are we only suppose to

travel
> where there is cell coverage? That would be a pretty damn boring

life!
>


Same offshore. That's why there's Iridium...(c

www.iridium.com

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Old 12-28-2007, 12:54 PM   #33
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=?UTF-8?B?U01TIOaWr+iSguaWh+KAoiDlpI8=?= <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in news:47753597$0$84203$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> I had an idea once where instead of everyone carrying cell phones,

and
> paying all that money, that someone should just install phones that

you
> pay to use when you need them. They could be installed at stores,
> restaurants, gas stations, etc. You could just insert a token or

some
> coins and make a call. Maybe someday someone will do something like

this
> and cell phones will be obsolete.
>


I'm looking for a Presidential candidate to vote for that wants to
divert funds away from stupid wars for the bankers to get rich off of
to install WiMax across the country anywhere there's PCS phone
service, then we can work on the countryside. The difference in
price between war and WiMax is about 90:1 and we can use the surplus
to feed starving AMERICANS, for a change, instead of everyone else.

Any FCC licensee who objects would have his license immediately
revoked for 20 years and any govt employee or politician caught
taking a telecom bribe would be hung in effigy in the Rotunda as a
reminder to the rest of them who is actually in control, the folks
paying the bills back home that want WiMax, not War!

"WIMAX NOT WAR" will be our slogan....

Any other voters for that?



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Old 12-28-2007, 01:41 PM   #34
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Larry wrote:

> I'm looking for a Presidential candidate to vote for that wants to
> divert funds away from stupid wars for the bankers to get rich off of
> to install WiMax across the country anywhere there's PCS phone
> service, then we can work on the countryside.


I think that you'll be looking for a long time for such a candidate.
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Old 12-28-2007, 01:48 PM   #35
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:45:05 -0800, SMS ??? ?
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:>>
>
>> Not only that, but I travel on roads with - gasp! - no coverage at all!

>
>Wow, you are brave. I've only found one area with no coverage at all in
>the past year, which was the road from Lake Louise up to Jasper.


I-87 through the Adirondacks has no cell phone coverage. They have
roadside emergency phones every two miles.

Someone died in an accident there about a year ago after they ran off the
road in an area with no cell phone coverage. The car was not visible
from the road. The occupants were injured and unable to leave the car,
so they couldn't walk back to the roadway. It took 32 hours to find
them, and the driver passed away from hypothermia in the meantime.

>I had an idea once where instead of everyone carrying cell phones, and
>paying all that money, that someone should just install phones that you
>pay to use when you need them. They could be installed at stores,
>restaurants, gas stations, etc. You could just insert a token or some
>coins and make a call. Maybe someday someone will do something like this
>and cell phones will be obsolete.


Someone stole your idea. We have phones like that in New Jersey. Some
of them are even placed so you can make calls while sitting in your car.

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Old 12-28-2007, 02:18 PM   #36
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At 28 Dec 2007 20:48:19 +0000 Bob Scheurle wrote:

> >I had an idea once where instead of everyone carrying cell phones, and
> >paying all that money, that someone should just install phones that you
> >pay to use when you need them. They could be installed at stores,
> >restaurants, gas stations, etc. You could just insert a token or some
> >coins and make a call. Maybe someday someone will do something like this
> >and cell phones will be obsolete.

>
> Someone stole your idea. We have phones like that in New Jersey. Some
> of them are even placed so you can make calls while sitting in your car.



Ironically, the last time I saw someone actually using a payphone, he was
making an international call to his cellphone provider in South Africa to
ask why his phone wasn't roaming here in the US despite their promise to
him that it would! ;-)



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Old 12-28-2007, 02:41 PM   #37
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SMS 斯蒂文• 夏 wrote:
> I had an idea once where instead of everyone carrying cell phones, and
> paying all that money, that someone should just install phones that you
> pay to use when you need them. They could be installed at stores,
> restaurants, gas stations, etc. You could just insert a token or some
> coins and make a call. Maybe someday someone will do something like this
> and cell phones will be obsolete.


EXCELLENT idea...and they could be all VoIP on Oxford's
nationwide FREE WiFi
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Old 12-28-2007, 03:26 PM   #38
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SMS 斯蒂文• 夏 wrote:
> Bob Scheurle wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:00:36 -0800, SMS ???• ?
>> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>> Wait, so you mean to say that you don't plan your travels so that you
>>> are never out of range of digital coverage? You are actually willing
>>> to travel to and through places with only AMPS coverage? You would
>>> actually drive on a road with no digital coverage?

>>
>> Not only that, but I travel on roads with - gasp! - no coverage at all!

>
> Wow, you are brave. I've only found one area with no coverage at all in
> the past year, which was the road from Lake Louise up to Jasper.
>
>> I traveled for 45 years without a cell phone. I think I can manage
>> without one for a bit, thank you.

>
> I had an idea once where instead of everyone carrying cell phones, and
> paying all that money, that someone should just install phones that you
> pay to use when you need them. They could be installed at stores,
> restaurants, gas stations, etc. You could just insert a token or some
> coins and make a call. Maybe someday someone will do something like this
> and cell phones will be obsolete.



I usually know sarcasm when I see it, but this has already been done -
and that public phone hanging on the pole or wall is a 'sell' phone.
Cellular backhaul, coin or credit card operated, corded handset,
dedicated phone number. I've seen these solar powered units in many
places across Central America. They also have CC only models which I
have in my vacation homes in Mexico and Costa Rica. There is a red
pre-programmed emergencia button that functions like a free 911 call (in
the U.S.) I don't remember who makes them, but they work well with a
little rooftop yagi antenna, and are considered more reliable than land
lines, assuming that's available. I was on a land line waiting list for
over a year before my first one.

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Old 12-28-2007, 03:34 PM   #39
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At 28 Dec 2007 16:26:46 -0600 Jer wrote:
> I was on a land line waiting list for over a year before my first one.



It must be tough to be old enough to have your first phone autographed by
A. G. Bell himself, huh? ;-)

Haven't heard from you here in a little while, Jer, nice to have you back!


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Old 12-28-2007, 04:12 PM   #40
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SMS ???? ? wrote:
> Obviously sarcasm doesn't work well on Usenet.


Sometimes I think we should offer free batteries for sarcasm detectors. But
those reading the offers, having depleted batteries, wouldn't recognize that
the offer was itself sarcasm, and might find themselves chasing their own
tails in perpetuity, trying to figure out what they just read. Which, if you
think of it, might not be a bad idea.

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Old 12-28-2007, 04:13 PM   #41
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SMS ???? ? wrote:
> Larry wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a Presidential candidate to vote for that wants to
>> divert funds away from stupid wars for the bankers to get rich off of
>> to install WiMax across the country anywhere there's PCS phone
>> service, then we can work on the countryside.

>
> I think that you'll be looking for a long time for such a candidate.


Hillary'll do it. She likes spending.

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Old 12-28-2007, 04:25 PM   #42
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Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 28 Dec 2007 20:48:19 +0000 Bob Scheurle wrote:
>
>>> I had an idea once where instead of everyone carrying cell phones, and
>>> paying all that money, that someone should just install phones that you
>>> pay to use when you need them. They could be installed at stores,
>>> restaurants, gas stations, etc. You could just insert a token or some
>>> coins and make a call. Maybe someday someone will do something like this
>>> and cell phones will be obsolete.

>> Someone stole your idea. We have phones like that in New Jersey. Some
>> of them are even placed so you can make calls while sitting in your car.

>
>
> Ironically, the last time I saw someone actually using a payphone, he was
> making an international call to his cellphone provider in South Africa to
> ask why his phone wasn't roaming here in the US despite their promise to
> him that it would! ;-)


Ironically, it's actually cheaper nowadays to use a prepaid cell phone
than a pay phone for most calls. No long distance charges, but even for
short local calls, you can get prepaid minutes for less than 6¢ each.
There's the initial cost, and a minimum cost per month, but at 35¢ for a
local pay phone call you break even pretty quickly if you use pay phones
a lot.
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Old 12-28-2007, 04:32 PM   #43
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Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 28 Dec 2007 16:26:46 -0600 Jer wrote:
>> I was on a land line waiting list for over a year before my first one.

>
>
> It must be tough to be old enough to have your first phone autographed by
> A. G. Bell himself, huh? ;-)
>
> Haven't heard from you here in a little while, Jer, nice to have you back!
>
>


I'm doing okay, kinda busy, kinda fun. One of the features of these
sell phones is if you want the emotional impact of slamming the handset
down to abruptly end a call, you can. Not with a measly end button!
See...? kinda fun.

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Old 12-28-2007, 05:20 PM   #44
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clifto wrote:
> SMS ???? ? wrote:
>> Larry wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for a Presidential candidate to vote for that wants to
>>> divert funds away from stupid wars for the bankers to get rich off of
>>> to install WiMax across the country anywhere there's PCS phone
>>> service, then we can work on the countryside.

>> I think that you'll be looking for a long time for such a candidate.

>
> Hillary'll do it. She likes spending.
>


I doubt that anyone running, Democratic or Republican, could spend as
much as Bush has spent. He made Reagan look like a fiscal conservative!
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:07 PM   #45
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SMS ???? ? wrote:
> clifto wrote:
>> SMS ???? ? wrote:
>>> Larry wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a Presidential candidate to vote for that wants to
>>>> divert funds away from stupid wars for the bankers to get rich off of
>>>> to install WiMax across the country anywhere there's PCS phone
>>>> service, then we can work on the countryside.
>>> I think that you'll be looking for a long time for such a candidate.

>>
>> Hillary'll do it. She likes spending.
>>

>
> I doubt that anyone running, Democratic or Republican, could spend as
> much as Bush has spent. He made Reagan look like a fiscal conservative!


Say what you like, Hillary already has three quarters of a trillion spent
before even getting into 2008. And that doesn't count the day-to-day
operations of the country, just the Socialist Santa goodies, and only the
ones she's had to reveal to date.

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