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Old 02-15-2008, 08:26 AM   #31
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Re: Razr V3 Motorola Phone Tools - motov3m.jpg


The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:09:38 GMT, John Navas
> <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:02:36 -0600, The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now>
>>wrote in <qjl8r317pmbv0qiv6si5m53v3tvhop1d5d@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>The attached picture ...

>>
>>Please do *not* attach pictures to Usenet posts. In addition to
>>being rude, it means your post won't make it to the many
>>newservers that filter out binaries in text newsgroups. Instead,
>>put your image on a free hosting site (e.g., tinypic.com), and put
>>the URL in your Usenet post.

>
> Rude...? Simply showing how verizon has requested motorola make
> a crippled phone so then can try to suck a few more bucks out of
> their users.


No, rude because it's a violation of Usnet etiquitte or Netiquitte.
Never post any attachment to a newsgroup that doesn't have the word
"binaries" in it's title.

> Won't make it to some servers? It will make it to any servers
> worth looking at.


Any proper server will strip attachments.

> Rude...? Your rude for putting your nose where it doesn't belong.
> And bring nothing useful to the conversation.


He properly pointed out the rules to you, you need to learn about
newsgroups and netiquitte.

Start here, it's a good primer:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html



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Old 02-15-2008, 08:38 AM   #32
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:26:08 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:

>The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:09:38 GMT, John Navas
>> <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:02:36 -0600, The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now>
>>>wrote in <qjl8r317pmbv0qiv6si5m53v3tvhop1d5d@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>>The attached picture ...
>>>
>>>Please do *not* attach pictures to Usenet posts. In addition to
>>>being rude, it means your post won't make it to the many
>>>newservers that filter out binaries in text newsgroups. Instead,
>>>put your image on a free hosting site (e.g., tinypic.com), and put
>>>the URL in your Usenet post.

>>
>> Rude...? Simply showing how verizon has requested motorola make
>> a crippled phone so then can try to suck a few more bucks out of
>> their users.

>
>No, rude because it's a violation of Usnet etiquitte or Netiquitte.
>Never post any attachment to a newsgroup that doesn't have the word
>"binaries" in it's title.
>
>> Won't make it to some servers? It will make it to any servers
>> worth looking at.

>
>Any proper server will strip attachments.
>
>> Rude...? Your rude for putting your nose where it doesn't belong.
>> And bring nothing useful to the conversation.

>
>He properly pointed out the rules to you, you need to learn about
>newsgroups and netiquitte.
>
>Start here, it's a good primer:
>
>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html


Again nothing useful added...

I came here with a question. I found out all I needed to know.

I won't be checking back here unless I have something else I want to
find out...

I have a little concern for someone who hangs out in a cell phone
group. And who send a reply so fast, even a useless one...

There's a good chance you need to stop trying to police a cell phone
news group. Where all you get is laughed at.
And maybe get outside now and then...

Feel free to have the last word. As I said I won't be checking back...
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:30 AM   #33
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Re: Razr V3 Motorola Phone Tools - motov3m.jpg


The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:09:38 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:02:36 -0600, The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote in
>><qjl8r317pmbv0qiv6si5m53v3tvhop1d5d@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>The attached picture ...

>>
>>Please do *not* attach pictures to Usenet posts. In addition to being
>>rude, it means your post won't make it to the many newservers that
>>filter out binaries in text newsgroups. Instead, put your image on a
>>free hosting site (e.g., tinypic.com), and put the URL in your Usenet
>>post.

>
>Rude...? Simply showing how verizon has requested motorola make a
>crippled phone so then can try to suck a few more bucks out of their
>users.
>
>Won't make it to some servers? It will make it to any servers worth
>looking at.
>


Usenet newby apparently.

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Old 02-15-2008, 09:32 AM   #34
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Re: Razr V3 Motorola Phone Tools - motov3m.jpg


On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:38:39 -0600, The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote in
<t4cbr3d0v6h8k4gpdado7jtso6r3k63ogo@4ax.com>:

>On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:26:08 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
>wrote:


>>He properly pointed out the rules to you, you need to learn about
>>newsgroups and netiquitte.
>>
>>Start here, it's a good primer:
>>
>>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html

>
>Again nothing useful added...
>
>I came here with a question. I found out all I needed to know.
>
>I won't be checking back here unless I have something else I want to
>find out...
>
>I have a little concern for someone who hangs out in a cell phone
>group. And who send a reply so fast, even a useless one...
>
>There's a good chance you need to stop trying to police a cell phone
>news group. Where all you get is laughed at.
>And maybe get outside now and then...
>
>Feel free to have the last word. As I said I won't be checking back...


Watch out the door doesn't smack you in the tush on the way out!

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Old 02-15-2008, 10:14 AM   #35
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Re: Razr V3 Motorola Phone Tools - motov3m.jpg


The Dr. wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:26:08 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:09:38 GMT, John Navas
>>><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:02:36 -0600, The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now>
>>>>wrote in <qjl8r317pmbv0qiv6si5m53v3tvhop1d5d@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The attached picture ...
>>>>
>>>>Please do *not* attach pictures to Usenet posts. In addition to
>>>>being rude, it means your post won't make it to the many
>>>>newservers that filter out binaries in text newsgroups. Instead,
>>>>put your image on a free hosting site (e.g., tinypic.com), and put
>>>>the URL in your Usenet post.
>>>
>>>Rude...? Simply showing how verizon has requested motorola make
>>>a crippled phone so then can try to suck a few more bucks out of
>>>their users.

>>
>>No, rude because it's a violation of Usnet etiquitte or Netiquitte.
>>Never post any attachment to a newsgroup that doesn't have the word
>>"binaries" in it's title.
>>
>>
>>>Won't make it to some servers? It will make it to any servers
>>>worth looking at.

>>
>>Any proper server will strip attachments.
>>
>>
>>>Rude...? Your rude for putting your nose where it doesn't belong.
>>>And bring nothing useful to the conversation.

>>
>>He properly pointed out the rules to you, you need to learn about
>>newsgroups and netiquitte.
>>
>>Start here, it's a good primer:
>>
>>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html

>
>
> Again nothing useful added...
>
> I came here with a question. I found out all I needed to know.
>
> I won't be checking back here unless I have something else I want to
> find out...
>
> I have a little concern for someone who hangs out in a cell phone
> group. And who send a reply so fast, even a useless one...
>
> There's a good chance you need to stop trying to police a cell phone
> news group. Where all you get is laughed at.
> And maybe get outside now and then...
>
> Feel free to have the last word. As I said I won't be checking back...
> -- --


Good bye. We won't miss you!

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Old 02-15-2008, 10:55 AM   #36
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Re: Razr V3 Motorola Phone Tools - motov3m.jpg


In article <3d7br3t0pqreig2alnklntaknvbpq2iihr@4ax.com>, The Dr.
<The_Dr@home.now> wrote:

> Rude...? Simply showing how verizon has requested motorola make a
> crippled phone so then can try to suck a few more bucks out of their
> users.


I wouldn't call it "rude," but then, Navas is an idiot.

Bottom line: you can't post images in non-binary newsgroups.
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:31 PM   #37
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Re: Razr V3 Motorola Phone Tools - motov3m.jpg


[posted and mailed]

The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote:

> Again nothing useful added...


Yes, there was useful content, I gave you some links so you could
learn what you did wrong.

> I came here with a question. I found out all I needed to know.
>
> I won't be checking back here unless I have something else I want
> to find out...


Good luck finding anyone else who will help you after you've acted
like a total jerk.

> I have a little concern for someone who hangs out in a cell phone
> group. And who send a reply so fast, even a useless one...


It was useless only to your closed mind.

> There's a good chance you need to stop trying to police a cell
> phone news group. Where all you get is laughed at.
> And maybe get outside now and then...


Do you have any idea how ignorant you appear? People were trying to
help and you come back with your idiotic attitude and post
completely off the wall lunatic ravings.

I doubt you'll learn, though.

Ignorant is not knowing, stupid is refusing to learn and guess which
group you fall into?




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Old 02-15-2008, 06:03 PM   #38
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He's the ****ing picture police....... Nothing better to do, sad...



On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:18:04 -0600, The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:09:38 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:02:36 -0600, The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote in
>><qjl8r317pmbv0qiv6si5m53v3tvhop1d5d@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>The attached picture ...

>>
>>Please do *not* attach pictures to Usenet posts. In addition to being
>>rude, it means your post won't make it to the many newservers that
>>filter out binaries in text newsgroups. Instead, put your image on a
>>free hosting site (e.g., tinypic.com), and put the URL in your Usenet
>>post.

>
>Rude...? Simply showing how verizon has requested motorola make a
>crippled phone so then can try to suck a few more bucks out of their
>users.
>
>Won't make it to some servers? It will make it to any servers worth
>looking at.
>
>And how willingly motorola did it for them.
>Like I said before. Any whore will swallow if the price is right...
>
>Rude...? Your rude for putting your nose where it doesn't belong. And
>bring nothing useful to the conversation.
>
>Try to keep from doing that in the feature...
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Old 02-16-2008, 05:03 AM   #39
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:03:31 -0600, Jim <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>He's the ****ing picture police....... Nothing better to do, sad...


If you want to police ****ing pictures, the alt.sex.* hierarchy is over
there ------>

From what I gathered of this thread the picture was of a mobile phone, no
****ing going on here. However, as my ISP operates a well-configured
server and this group doesn't fall somewhere in *.binaries.* I didn't see
it.

>On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:18:04 -0600, The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:09:38 GMT, John Navas
>><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:02:36 -0600, The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote in
>>><qjl8r317pmbv0qiv6si5m53v3tvhop1d5d@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>>The attached picture ...
>>>
>>>Please do *not* attach pictures to Usenet posts. In addition to being
>>>rude, it means your post won't make it to the many newservers that
>>>filter out binaries in text newsgroups. Instead, put your image on a
>>>free hosting site (e.g., tinypic.com), and put the URL in your Usenet
>>>post.

>>
>>Rude...? Simply showing how verizon has requested motorola make a
>>crippled phone so then can try to suck a few more bucks out of their
>>users.
>>
>>Won't make it to some servers? It will make it to any servers worth
>>looking at.
>>
>>And how willingly motorola did it for them.
>>Like I said before. Any whore will swallow if the price is right...
>>
>>Rude...? Your rude for putting your nose where it doesn't belong. And
>>bring nothing useful to the conversation.
>>
>>Try to keep from doing that in the feature...
>>-- --

>



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Old 02-29-2008, 01:56 AM   #40
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On Feb 8, 7:22*pm, Sandy Foster <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article <88opq3tl98dsadgsj2pjfcbmuo8nvmr...@4ax.com>,
> *The Dr. <The...@home.now> wrote:
>
> > Every time I see anyone ask this same question I see them get sent to
> >www.howardforums.com. *Never have seen anyone come back and say
> > "thanks, that worked great"...

>
> Okay, let me be the first. <G> I did go to howardforums, found where to
> buy some "uncrippling" software, followed the directions and now have
> many of the advertised capabilities of my Razr V3m back where they
> belong -- with me. I bought a CD from cellcables.com -- worked like a
> charm. HTH.
>
> --
> Sandy
> sw.foster 1 (at) gmail (dot) com (remove/change the obvious)http://www.sandymike.net


I just got the Razr V3m a few days ago. I checked out cellcables.com
and ended up sending them an Email regarding the compatability with
Vista. It works with Vista but it seems Verizon put some new software
on the Razr and cellcables.com doesn't have the software set up for
Verizon's new version. Customer support (which was very responsive)
said to check back in a couple of weeks and they would have the new
software listed.

I'm curious, how hard is cellcables.com's software to use. Is it like
a regular program or what? One thing their site doesn't do is show
screen shots.
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:47 AM   #41
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In article
<c5f6e7f3-03db-400f-a3b6-d353ab1af3d0@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
GJIsh <gordon.isherwood@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just got the Razr V3m a few days ago. I checked out cellcables.com
> and ended up sending them an Email regarding the compatability with
> Vista. It works with Vista but it seems Verizon put some new software
> on the Razr and cellcables.com doesn't have the software set up for
> Verizon's new version. Customer support (which was very responsive)
> said to check back in a couple of weeks and they would have the new
> software listed.
>
> I'm curious, how hard is cellcables.com's software to use. Is it like
> a regular program or what? One thing their site doesn't do is show
> screen shots.



I have the V3m, too, but mine is obviously older than yours. I used
cellcables.com's software and found it extremely easy to do -- no
glitches at all. There were lots of illustrations in the documentation
they sent, and I just did one step at a time until it was finished. Oh,
and they'd had me save the bits and pieces I needed to replace, so if
something had gone wrong I could have gone back to the original crippled
Razr. NAYY -- just a happy customer.

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Old 02-29-2008, 09:19 PM   #42
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On Feb 29, 11:47*am, Sandy Foster <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <c5f6e7f3-03db-400f-a3b6-d353ab1af...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> *GJIsh <gordon.isherw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just got the Razr V3m a few days ago. I checked out cellcables.com
> > and ended up sending them an Email regarding the compatability with
> > Vista. It works with Vista but it seems Verizon put some new software
> > on the Razr and cellcables.com doesn't have the software set up for
> > Verizon's new version. Customer support (which was very responsive)
> > said to check back in a couple of weeks and they would have the new
> > software listed.

>
> > I'm curious, how hard is cellcables.com's software to use. Is it like
> > a regular program or what? One thing their site doesn't do is show
> > screen shots.

>
> I have the V3m, too, but mine is obviously older than yours. I used
> cellcables.com's software and found it extremely easy to do -- no
> glitches at all. There were lots of illustrations in the documentation
> they sent, and I just did one step at a time until it was finished. Oh,
> and they'd had me save the bits and pieces I needed to replace, so if
> something had gone wrong I could have gone back to the original crippled
> Razr. NAYY -- just a happy customer.
>
> --
> Sandy
> sw.foster 1 (at) gmail (dot) com (remove/change the obvious)http://www.sandymike.net


Sandy, thanks for posting back. I'm hoping cellcables.com comes
through. I'm sure they will. I just hate forking over more $$ to
Verizon. I'd change carriers but they have the best coverage of all.
Guess they know it and they figure go ahead and go some where else,
you'll be back. By the way, I checked out your Website, love the dogs!
Our pup has her own site at http://www.geocities.com/gordonsdog/.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:13 PM   #43
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On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:57:29 -0600, The Dr. <The_Dr@home.now> wrote:

>I looked. I looked longer then I wanted to. But maybe spent my time
>reading the wrong material. I'll give it another try.
>
>I just wonder if it's such an easy follow the step process why it
>hasn't showed up here...?


There are a lot of bozos on the net. And many of them pretend like
they know it all. Even on the usenet & web forums.

>
>This is the only kind of help I've ever seen here. Someone saying how
>easy it is. And a link...
>-- --


I spent a whole night going from forum to forum and compiling
information -- much of it wrong and nonspecific -- before I was able
to get into my phone. In the end, it really is very easy, if you know
what to do. I have posted the instructions here before. If you are
willing to try, I can walk you through the steps.
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Old 03-01-2008, 10:12 AM   #44
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In article
<d8f35273-fb72-44c8-b0af-6283438cdde8@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
GJIsh <gordon.isherwood@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sandy, thanks for posting back. I'm hoping cellcables.com comes
> through. I'm sure they will. I just hate forking over more $$ to
> Verizon. I'd change carriers but they have the best coverage of all.
> Guess they know it and they figure go ahead and go some where else,
> you'll be back. By the way, I checked out your Website, love the dogs!
> Our pup has her own site at http://www.geocities.com/gordonsdog/.



You're very welcome! I hope they come through for you, too. I know just
what you mean about Verizon; I always think I'm going to change
carriers, but then I realize I'd lose coverage. :S

Maggie looks like a real sweetheart! And good for you for adopting a
rescue. That will be our next dog, when the time comes. I think our
current puppy will be our last *puppy* -- but I can't see myself without
a dog, so rescue it will be.

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Old 04-08-2008, 08:54 PM   #45
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The Dr. wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:35:26 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Country Boy wrote:
>>> I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
>>> not work for me either. Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
>>> and still no luck.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:47A7B94E.9040904@comcast.net...
>>>
>>>> WGD wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
>>>>> (though the V3c is in its list)
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrote to BVRP - no response. Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>>> older software? (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Tks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Call Motorola Tech Support and complain! I got satisfaction!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>> Just updating MPT does not make it support the RAZR. Call the Motorola
>> Customer Support Center at (800) 657-8909. Explain your problem. I
>> can't speak for them but they gave me a time limited URL which I used to
>> download the version with RAZR V3m support.

>
> So far so good... I did call. They did email me a link to download
> what should work with this V3m.
> I have not tried it yet. But will let the results be known, good or
> bad...
>

<snip>

Don't delay too long. If that URL is like the one they gave me, it's
good for 72 hours!! Once you download it, it's a good idea to make a
copy on another disk drive and/or burn a copy to CD/DVD.

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