Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
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> "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
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> >> The disadvantages of PAN are, a) most other mobile devices can't use
it,
> >> so you can't hook up a PPC to a WM6 phone, for example, and b) the PC
> >> connecting to the device must have Activesync or WMDC installed
(because
> >> the drivers are integrated into the sync software.)
> >>
> >> The joys of Windows Mobile upgrades- two steps forward, one step back.
> >> ;-)
> >
> > Exactly and I especially agree with your "disadvantages" paragraph since
> > I'm
> > thinking of getting an HP IPAQ 211 without it's own internet.
> >
> > BTW I just looked up "BT DUN" on the internet and found: "Why did we
> > remove
> > Bluetooth DUN?".
> >
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/...tooth-dun.aspx
> >
> > It makes it look like they are trying to blame the OEMs for removing BT
> > DUN.
> > Either way, it is not very fun trying to work around things that have
> > changed.
>
> I almost added "PAN is easier for wireless carriers to disable" under
> "advantages" (with tongue planted firmly in cheek!) Any carrier that
wants
> to disallow tethering external devices now simply has to remove the
Internet
> Sharing applet, rather than try to cripple the bluetooth stack or
functions,
> so it has major advantages over BT DUN for wireless OEMs. (Ironically, IR
> DUN generally still works fine, however, if you can leave both devices
> aligned on a desk.)

I used to use the IR port for transfering small files until I found out just
recently I could use BT for the same thing.

BTW you wouldn't want the Sprint "Touch" because it doesn't have an IR port
or WiFi for that matter.

"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
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> I used to use the IR port for transfering small files until I found out
> just
> recently I could use BT for the same thing.
>
> BTW you wouldn't want the Sprint "Touch" because it doesn't have an IR
> port
> or WiFi for that matter.


I'll add those to the (long) list of why I don't want a Sprint touch! ;-)

On Mar 13, 6:44 pm, "Todd Allcock" <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com>
wrote:
>
> Because WM6 now uses PAN (Personal Area Network) instead of DUN. There
> should be an app called "Internet Sharing" on the device.
>
> The advantage of PAN ...
> The disadvantages of PAN ...
>
> The joys of Windows Mobile upgrades- two steps forward, one step back. ;-)

There is a thread on ppcgeeks.com that has the WModem application and
drivers all bundled up:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11146

Reading through it sounds a bit confusing but all I had to do after
downloading the zip file was the "Installing the Missing Files"
section and it worked just fine.

This way you can use the device as a generic modem instead of having
to install ActiveSync and avoid the problems/unwantedness that
accompany it.

Todd W.

"Todd Wade" <waveright@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 13, 6:44 pm, "Todd Allcock" <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Because WM6 now uses PAN (Personal Area Network) instead of DUN. There
> > should be an app called "Internet Sharing" on the device.
> >
> > The advantage of PAN ...
> > The disadvantages of PAN ...
> >
> > The joys of Windows Mobile upgrades- two steps forward, one step back.
;-)
>
> There is a thread on ppcgeeks.com that has the WModem application and
> drivers all bundled up:
>
> http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11146
>
> Reading through it sounds a bit confusing but all I had to do after
> downloading the zip file was the "Installing the Missing Files"
> section and it worked just fine.
>
> This way you can use the device as a generic modem instead of having
> to install ActiveSync and avoid the problems/unwantedness that
> accompany it.
>
> Todd W.

Many Thanks for that link!

I know you posted a few days ago but I finally got around to trying a file
in that "zip file" myself today.

Turns out all I needed to do was install the CAB file out of the directory
named "Bluetooth DialUp Access" and do a soft reset.

The cool thing about that BT DUN is I don't have the same problems I had
with PDANET where I have to restart devices after a connection or where I
have to have a laptop to install it in the first place.

I know not everybody wants or needs BT DUN because the "Internet Sharing"
via "Bluetooth PAN" will work in most cases, but that isn't me so Thanks
again.