simple GPS lat/lon display?

If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?
I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
to be used later by standard GPS units.
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"P.Schuman" <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote in news:AGCIj.23247
$0o7.3203@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net:

> If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
> can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?
> I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
> to be used later by standard GPS units.

SURELY YOU JEST!!

SELLphone companies letting you see data from what you bought WITHOUT
PAYING SELLPHONE COMPANIES?!!

BITE YOUR TONGUE.....and open your wallet!

(in my best British accent) NEVAH!........(c;

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:01:52 GMT, "P.Schuman"
<pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:

>If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
>can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?
>I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
>to be used later by standard GPS units.

GPS on cell phones is not based on the satalites in orbit, rather they
triangulate off the towers. It isn't a true GPS....

D <noemail@respondhere.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:e9e8v39asf0urbjaphv3tr98lb12b56on0@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:01:52 GMT, "P.Schuman"
> <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>
>>If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
>>can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?
>>I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
>>to be used later by standard GPS units.
>
> GPS on cell phones is not based on the satalites in orbit, rather they
> triangulate off the towers. It isn't a true GPS....
>

Actually, some phones do have GPS and do not rely on triangulation.

And your post highlights something that I find interesting. GPS is the
acronym for "Global Positioning Satellite." Therefore, in order to offer
GPS as a service, a unit would need to communicate with satellites.
Anything else is simply a locator service, and is advertised as such.

The Bob wrote:
> D <noemail@respondhere.com> amazed us all with the following in
> news:e9e8v39asf0urbjaphv3tr98lb12b56on0@4ax.com:
>
>
>>On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:01:52 GMT, "P.Schuman"
>><pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
>>>can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?
>>>I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
>>>to be used later by standard GPS units.
>>
>>GPS on cell phones is not based on the satalites in orbit, rather they
>>triangulate off the towers. It isn't a true GPS....
>>
>
>
> Actually, some phones do have GPS and do not rely on triangulation.
>
> And your post highlights something that I find interesting. GPS is the
> acronym for "Global Positioning Satellite." Therefore, in order to offer
> GPS as a service, a unit would need to communicate with satellites.
> Anything else is simply a locator service, and is advertised as such.

Communicate is a slight overstatement. A GPS device needs only to
receive signals broadcast from the NavStar (GPS) satellites. Four
satellites are needed to solve four equations in four unknowns:
latitude, longitude, elevation and time. Even four or five years ago, a
GPS receiver was about as big as a book of matches!

D wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:01:52 GMT, "P.Schuman"
> <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>
>> If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
>> can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?
>> I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
>> to be used later by standard GPS units.
>
> GPS on cell phones is not based on the satalites in orbit, rather they
> triangulate off the towers. It isn't a true GPS....

Actually some do use that as part of the solution.

The problem with this question is that the OP cross posted to every
cellular group without specifying what carrier they use and what phone
they use.

> And your post highlights something that I find interesting. GPS is the
> acronym for "Global Positioning Satellite." Therefore, in order to offer
> GPS as a service, a unit would need to communicate with satellites.

NO, NO, NO! GPS is a receive-only system. Your unit is listening for
multiple satellites. Based on what it 'hears' and the timing, it
triangulates a location.

At no point, at no time, NOT EVER, do any of the GPS units transmit back to
the satellites. THINK ABOUT IT. The power to get a signal back to orbit is
non-trivial. That and managing the traffic from a bajillion different GPS
unit would be nigh-on impossible.

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:01:52 GMT, "P.Schuman"
<pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote in
<AGCIj.23247$0o7.3203@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net >:

>If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
>can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?
>I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
>to be used later by standard GPS units.

What phone? What carrier?
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR AT&T MOBILITY (CINGULAR WIRELESS):
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility_FAQ>

The definition of GPS is "Global Positioning System" NOT "Global Positioning
Satellite".

Craig

"The Bob" <nospam@bob.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A74D377F2FA3bob@216.196.97.136...
>D <noemail@respondhere.com> amazed us all with the following in
> news:e9e8v39asf0urbjaphv3tr98lb12b56on0@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:01:52 GMT, "P.Schuman"
>> <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>>
>>>If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
>>>can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?
>>>I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
>>>to be used later by standard GPS units.
>>
>> GPS on cell phones is not based on the satalites in orbit, rather they
>> triangulate off the towers. It isn't a true GPS....
>>
>
> Actually, some phones do have GPS and do not rely on triangulation.
>
> And your post highlights something that I find interesting. GPS is the
> acronym for "Global Positioning Satellite." Therefore, in order to offer
> GPS as a service, a unit would need to communicate with satellites.
> Anything else is simply a locator service, and is advertised as such.

At 03 Apr 2008 10:19:23 -0700 CRAIG wrote:
> The definition of GPS is "Global Positioning System" NOT "Global
Positioning
> Satellite".


Then Verizon' and Sprint's systems still fail the definition, since, unlike
satellite-based systems, they're not available globally! ;-)

"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> amazed us all with the following
in news:NYidnfsjSbBzQWnanZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

>> And your post highlights something that I find interesting. GPS is
>> the acronym for "Global Positioning Satellite." Therefore, in order
>> to offer GPS as a service, a unit would need to communicate with
>> satellites.
>
> NO, NO, NO! GPS is a receive-only system. Your unit is listening for
> multiple satellites. Based on what it 'hears' and the timing, it
> triangulates a location.
>
> At no point, at no time, NOT EVER, do any of the GPS units transmit
> back to the satellites. THINK ABOUT IT. The power to get a signal
> back to orbit is non-trivial. That and managing the traffic from a
> bajillion different GPS unit would be nigh-on impossible.
>
>

So by listening to the satellites, communication is happening.

Thanks for nothing.

George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>D wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:01:52 GMT, "P.Schuman"
>> <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
>>> can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?
>>> I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
>>> to be used later by standard GPS units.
>>
>> GPS on cell phones is not based on the satalites in orbit, rather they
>> triangulate off the towers. It isn't a true GPS....
>
>Actually some do use that as part of the solution.
>
>The problem with this question is that the OP cross posted to every
>cellular group without specifying what carrier they use and what phone
>they use.

And yet no one has answered the question for any phone or any carrier.
Perhaps someone will have to write a custom program. Does GPS return
lat/lon, or does it use some other location scheme?

"Jack Hamilton" <jfh@acm.org> wrote in message
news:ljabv319l8i0lg7d135gj83bhut5h4dtit@4ax.com...
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> >D wrote:
> >> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:01:52 GMT, "P.Schuman"
> >> <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
> >>> can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application
?
> >>> I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
> >>> to be used later by standard GPS units.
> >>
> >> GPS on cell phones is not based on the satalites in orbit, rather they
> >> triangulate off the towers. It isn't a true GPS....
> >
> >Actually some do use that as part of the solution.
> >
> >The problem with this question is that the OP cross posted to every
> >cellular group without specifying what carrier they use and what phone
> >they use.
>
> And yet no one has answered the question for any phone or any carrier.
> Perhaps someone will have to write a custom program. Does GPS return
> lat/lon, or does it use some other location scheme?

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Cross posting removed

*GPS lat/lon": YES
"simple": NO

The program I currently use is GPS2BLUE found at:
http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html

The reason why I say it is *not* simple is because the only way I have been
able to get the "GPS long/lat" to display is when I use GPS2BLUE to redirect
the GPS data via Bluetooth from a "Sprint Mogul" to another device.

To get the redirection to work I assign a comport to the other device. To
assign a comport to the other device the other device has to have an
incomming port so that rules out a lot of devices.

BTW once the redirection via Bluetooth is working it makes it look like the
other device has a built in GPS just like the Sprint Mogul has.

As for "simple." I am still looking for something "simple" myself and if I
find a "simple" program I'll try to post about it too.

"P.Schuman" <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote in message
news:AGCIj.23247$0o7.3203@newssvr13.news.prodigy.n et...
> If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
> can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?
> I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
> to be used later by standard GPS units.
> --
> ----------------------------------
> "If everything seems to be going well,
> you have obviously overlooked something." - Steven Wright

Crossposting left in.

If you have a WM6 PPC/phone with a built in GPS like the Sprint Mogul has
then you mght find something with a "simple GPS lat/long display" here:
http://pocketpcfreewares.com/en/inde...cat=30&sortby=

Jack Hamilton wrote:

> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>D wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:01:52 GMT, "P.Schuman"
>>><pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
>>>>can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?
>>>>I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
>>>>to be used later by standard GPS units.
>>>
>>>GPS on cell phones is not based on the satalites in orbit, rather they
>>>triangulate off the towers. It isn't a true GPS....
>>
>>Actually some do use that as part of the solution.
>>
>>The problem with this question is that the OP cross posted to every
>>cellular group without specifying what carrier they use and what phone
>>they use.
>
>
> And yet no one has answered the question for any phone or any carrier.
> Perhaps someone will have to write a custom program. Does GPS return
> lat/lon, or does it use some other location scheme?


The HP iPaq hw65**/67**/69** GPS radio outputs NMEA 0183 Geographic
Latitude and Longitude (GLL) format coordinates, independent of carrier.