Re: Standalone cellular modems?

"Todd Wade" <waveright@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 18, 12:18 pm, "Roger 2008" <rw...@att.net> wrote:
> "DTC" <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in message
>
> news:bNQNj.1479$FF6.328@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net ...
>
> > AZ Nomad wrote:
> > > I'll keep that mind next time I live out of a car.
>
> > Or if you ever get a job outside of a cubicle and need to
> > be truly mobile.
>
> Here is a neat device that lets you use certain items made by Sprint for
an
> Access Point to the internet. And it isn't just wireless access, you get
> one Ethernet connection also.http://cradlepoint.com/
>
> I messed with a cradlepoint before it was compatible with a Sprint Touch
and
> after looking at their site today, I see that things have changed so I'll
> have to see if I can try it again.

I got the CTR350 and use it with my Mogul:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UO18FC

Great for hotels and the camp site.

Todd W.

--------------------

I know someone with a CTR350 and Saturday we upgraded his CTR350 to the
latest software.

I hooked up my Mogul to it and set up Internet Sharing for USB and then
tapped connect. It looked like it was working but we could not get to the
internet.

Any ideas?

TIZ

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
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>
> > I know someone with a CTR350 and Saturday we upgraded his CTR350 to the
> > latest software.
> >
> > I hooked up my Mogul to it and set up Internet Sharing for USB and then
> > tapped connect. It looked like it was working but we could not get to
the
> > internet.
>
>
> Stupid question, but do you have the PAM (Phone as Modem) add-on to your
> data plan?

I pay $40 a month for it so I can have unlimited access but I have to keep
it 1 1/2 more years. After I added that I was informed I didn't have to
have Vision anymore so I dropped that.


> And, although the manual for the CTR350 says it supports the Mogul, I'm
not
> sure HOW it does... Typically ICS (Internet Sharing) requires Activesync
on
> the PC (or WMDC for Vista) to recognize the phone's RNDIS connection. I
> guess the WinMo compatible RNDIS driver is in the CTR350 firmware?

I have never installed any extra software on my Vista computer yet. It came
with the Slingbox software on it so all I had to do was set that up.

On my Mogul I run "Internet Sharing", set it for "Bluetooth PAN" and then
tap Connect. Then on the laptop I right click on the Bluetooth icon in the
system tray and then "Join a Personal Area Network." then "Connect."

Or if I want to use a USB cable, I just set "Internet Sharing" for "USB" tap
"Connect" and hook up the USB cable. My laptop finds that pretty quick too.

>
> If you're just wanting to use the Mogul as an access point, you really
don't
> need to invest in a cellular router- software exists that you can run on
> your phone and accomplish the same task. Check this out and see if it's
> suitable...
>
> http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-...ter-v0-89.html
>
> It turns your Mogul (or any WM6 Professional phone) into a WiFi router.

Yes that program is very cool and I have version 80 on my Mogul already.

BTW, as neat as that program is, I had a lot of trouble with it when I tried
to use it to get the internet from the Mogul to another PPC/phone. I ended
up using a BT DUN instead.

I'll say this too. When I use BT DUN instead of WMWiFiRouter my Mogul it
doesn't get as warm as it used to.

All that is great for me, but I still know someone that wants to get the
CTR350 to work with either a Mogul or their Touch.

Thanks.

On Apr 20, 8:06 pm, "Roger 2008" <rw...@att.net> wrote:
> "Todd Wade" <waveri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4d695134-8074-4e24-8db8-6cce82d4102d@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 18, 12:18 pm, "Roger 2008" <rw...@att.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "DTC" <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in message
>
> >news:bNQNj.1479$FF6.328@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>
> > > AZ Nomad wrote:
> > > > I'll keep that mind next time I live out of a car.
>
> > > Or if you ever get a job outside of a cubicle and need to
> > > be truly mobile.
>
> > Here is a neat device that lets you use certain items made by Sprint for
> an
> > Access Point to the internet. And it isn't just wireless access, you get
> > one Ethernet connection also.http://cradlepoint.com/
>
> > I messed with a cradlepoint before it was compatible with a Sprint Touch
> and
> > after looking at their site today, I see that things have changed so I'll
> > have to see if I can try it again.
>
> I got the CTR350 and use it with my Mogul:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UO18FC
>
> Great for hotels and the camp site.
>
> Todd W.
>
> --------------------
>
> I know someone with a CTR350 and Saturday we upgraded his CTR350 to the
> latest software.
>
> I hooked up my Mogul to it and set up Internet Sharing for USB and then
> tapped connect. It looked like it was working but we could not get to the
> internet.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TIZ


Mine didn't work out of the box either, so I called Cradlepoint's
support and they had me running in about 10 minutes. I think I had to
change the gateway ip to 192.168.3.1 instead of the default
192.168.1.1 in the router.

Worked great after that.

Todd W.

"Todd Wade" <waveright@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 20, 8:06 pm, "Roger 2008" <rw...@att.net> wrote:
> > "Todd Wade" <waveri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
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> > On Apr 18, 12:18 pm, "Roger 2008" <rw...@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > "DTC" <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in message
> >
> > >news:bNQNj.1479$FF6.328@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >
> > > > AZ Nomad wrote:
> > > > > I'll keep that mind next time I live out of a car.
> >
> > > > Or if you ever get a job outside of a cubicle and need to
> > > > be truly mobile.
> >
> > > Here is a neat device that lets you use certain items made by Sprint
for
> > an
> > > Access Point to the internet. And it isn't just wireless access, you
get
> > > one Ethernet connection also.http://cradlepoint.com/
> >
> > > I messed with a cradlepoint before it was compatible with a Sprint
Touch
> > and
> > > after looking at their site today, I see that things have changed so
I'll
> > > have to see if I can try it again.
> >
> > I got the CTR350 and use it with my Mogul:
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UO18FC
> >
> > Great for hotels and the camp site.
> >
> > Todd W.
> >
> > --------------------
> >
> > I know someone with a CTR350 and Saturday we upgraded his CTR350 to the
> > latest software.
> >
> > I hooked up my Mogul to it and set up Internet Sharing for USB and then
> > tapped connect. It looked like it was working but we could not get to
the
> > internet.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > TIZ
>
>
> Mine didn't work out of the box either, so I called Cradlepoint's
> support and they had me running in about 10 minutes. I think I had to
> change the gateway ip to 192.168.3.1 instead of the default
> 192.168.1.1 in the router.
>
> Worked great after that.
>
> Todd W.

Thanks and I remember seeing something about it when I was looking at the
cradlepoint website. I'll dig a little deeper when I have more time or
maybe I call too.

I don't remember exactly what cradlepoint product it was, but it was the
first one I saw and it worked super with laptops but it was slow going to a
PPC. After I saw that I decided I would not buy one till I learn more about
them.

"Todd Wade" <waveright@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 20, 8:06 pm, "Roger 2008" <rw...@att.net> wrote:
> > "Todd Wade" <waveri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
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> > On Apr 18, 12:18 pm, "Roger 2008" <rw...@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > "DTC" <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in message
> >
> > >news:bNQNj.1479$FF6.328@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >
> > > > AZ Nomad wrote:
> > > > > I'll keep that mind next time I live out of a car.
> >
> > > > Or if you ever get a job outside of a cubicle and need to
> > > > be truly mobile.
> >
> > > Here is a neat device that lets you use certain items made by Sprint
for
> > an
> > > Access Point to the internet. And it isn't just wireless access, you
get
> > > one Ethernet connection also.http://cradlepoint.com/
> >
> > > I messed with a cradlepoint before it was compatible with a Sprint
Touch
> > and
> > > after looking at their site today, I see that things have changed so
I'll
> > > have to see if I can try it again.
> >
> > I got the CTR350 and use it with my Mogul:
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UO18FC
> >
> > Great for hotels and the camp site.
> >
> > Todd W.
> >
> > --------------------
> >
> > I know someone with a CTR350 and Saturday we upgraded his CTR350 to the
> > latest software.
> >
> > I hooked up my Mogul to it and set up Internet Sharing for USB and then
> > tapped connect. It looked like it was working but we could not get to
the
> > internet.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > TIZ
>
>
> Mine didn't work out of the box either, so I called Cradlepoint's
> support and they had me running in about 10 minutes. I think I had to
> change the gateway ip to 192.168.3.1 instead of the default
> 192.168.1.1 in the router.
>
> Worked great after that.
>
> Todd W.

Ok I found where it says: "You will need to change one or the other to a
different subnet."

It is on page 3 of 4 at:
http://cradlepoint.com/ctr350/ReleaseNotesCTR_2_1.pdf

I'm looking forward to trying that out to see if that fixes the problem the
next time I get the chance.

Thanks again.

DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:j9yNj.4424$iK6.601
@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:

> I use the Dlink DIR-450 with the DynDNS for a virtual
> static IP. I forget how much they want for a hard static
> IP, but it was very expensive.

I use the KR1 by Kyocera. Works fine but it doesn't support
the (Sprint) Sierra cards at all. I use mine with a Novatel
U720 and a Novatel S720 with good results.

Help PCS wrote:
> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:j9yNj.4424$iK6.601
> @nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>> I use the Dlink DIR-450 with the DynDNS for a virtual
>> static IP. I forget how much they want for a hard static
>> IP, but it was very expensive.
>
> I use the KR1 by Kyocera. Works fine but it doesn't support
> the (Sprint) Sierra cards at all. I use mine with a Novatel
> U720 and a Novatel S720 with good results.

I had to install an update patch for my Pantech card.

Roger 2008 wrote:

> "Dutch" <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
> news:i48t22myi46g.dlg@blackholespam.net...
>> Roger 2008 wrote:
>>
>>> "Todd Wade" <waveright@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
> news:4d695134-8074-4e24-8db8-6cce82d4102d@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Apr 18, 12:18 pm, "Roger 2008" <rw...@att.net> wrote:
>>>> "DTC" <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:bNQNj.1479$FF6.328@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net ...
>>>>
>>>>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>>>> > I'll keep that mind next time I live out of a car.
>>>>
>>>>> Or if you ever get a job outside of a cubicle and need to
>>>>> be truly mobile.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a neat device that lets you use certain items made by Sprint
> for
>>> an
>>>> Access Point to the internet. And it isn't just wireless access, you
> get
>>>> one Ethernet connection also.http://cradlepoint.com/
>>>>
>>>> I messed with a cradlepoint before it was compatible with a Sprint
> Touch
>>> and
>>>> after looking at their site today, I see that things have changed so
> I'll
>>>> have to see if I can try it again.
>>>
>>> I got the CTR350 and use it with my Mogul:
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UO18FC
>>>
>>> Great for hotels and the camp site.
>>>
>>> Todd W.
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>>
>>> I know someone with a CTR350 and Saturday we upgraded his CTR350 to the
>>> latest software.
>>>
>>> I hooked up my Mogul to it and set up Internet Sharing for USB and then
>>> tapped connect. It looked like it was working but we could not get to
> the
>>> internet.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> TIZ
>>
>> Have you read Cradlepoint's notes about Windows Mobile devices?
>>
>> "(2) The user experience with devices running Windows Mobile is less
>> robust than other phones and modems. Windows Mobile devices connected to
>> either a PC or a CradlePoint router have exhibited erratic behavior
>> while using data sharing capabilities. Issues include frequent
>> disconnects for no apparent reason and remedies entail frequent
>> rebooting the phone and or removing the phone's battery. This problem is
>> not something that can be resolved by CradlePoint Technology and will
>> need to be addressed by the phone manufacturer. Please refer to our FAQ
>> section as well as our release notes."
>>
>> http://www.cradlepoint.com/techsuppo...350support.php
>
> Yes I saw that and I wonder who is up to something.

Yep. It does look like some unresolved Windows bugs might be the culprit
though.

> FYI I have noticed that if I connect my Mogul to a laptop with a USB cable I
> might have to restart the Slingplayer on my laptop a few times to watch an
> hour long show.

I haven't played with Slingplayer yet, so I can't say much there...

--
Dutch

In a message about "Re: Standalone cellular modems?", DTC wrote:

>> I use the KR1 by Kyocera. Works fine but it doesn't support
>> the (Sprint) Sierra cards at all. I use mine with a Novatel
>> U720 and a Novatel S720 with good results.
>
> I had to install an update patch for my Pantech card.

Yep, I think the latest firmware is .10 or something like that.

"Dutch" <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
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> Roger 2008 wrote:
>
> > "Todd Wade" <waveright@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
news:4d695134-8074-4e24-8db8-6cce82d4102d@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 18, 12:18 pm, "Roger 2008" <rw...@att.net> wrote:
> >> "DTC" <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:bNQNj.1479$FF6.328@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net ...
> >>
> >>> AZ Nomad wrote:
> >>> > I'll keep that mind next time I live out of a car.
> >>
> >>> Or if you ever get a job outside of a cubicle and need to
> >>> be truly mobile.
> >>
> >> Here is a neat device that lets you use certain items made by Sprint
for
> > an
> >> Access Point to the internet. And it isn't just wireless access, you
get
> >> one Ethernet connection also.http://cradlepoint.com/
> >>
> >> I messed with a cradlepoint before it was compatible with a Sprint
Touch
> > and
> >> after looking at their site today, I see that things have changed so
I'll
> >> have to see if I can try it again.
> >
> > I got the CTR350 and use it with my Mogul:
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UO18FC
> >
> > Great for hotels and the camp site.
> >
> > Todd W.
> >
> > --------------------
> >
> > I know someone with a CTR350 and Saturday we upgraded his CTR350 to the
> > latest software.
> >
> > I hooked up my Mogul to it and set up Internet Sharing for USB and then
> > tapped connect. It looked like it was working but we could not get to
the
> > internet.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > TIZ
>
> Have you read Cradlepoint's notes about Windows Mobile devices?
>
> "(2) The user experience with devices running Windows Mobile is less
> robust than other phones and modems. Windows Mobile devices connected to
> either a PC or a CradlePoint router have exhibited erratic behavior
> while using data sharing capabilities. Issues include frequent
> disconnects for no apparent reason and remedies entail frequent
> rebooting the phone and or removing the phone's battery. This problem is
> not something that can be resolved by CradlePoint Technology and will
> need to be addressed by the phone manufacturer. Please refer to our FAQ
> section as well as our release notes."
>
> http://www.cradlepoint.com/techsuppo...350support.php
>
> --
> Dutch

Yes I saw that and I wonder who is up to something.

FYI I have noticed that if I connect my Mogul to a laptop with a USB cable I
might have to restart the Slingplayer on my laptop a few times to watch an
hour long show.

Roger 2008 wrote:

> "Dutch" <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
> news:1tnvvu1p8fvnh.dlg@blackholespam.net...
>> Roger 2008 wrote:
>>
>>> "Dutch" <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:i48t22myi46g.dlg@blackholespam.net...
>>>> Roger 2008 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Have you read Cradlepoint's notes about Windows Mobile devices?
[...]
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cradlepoint.com/techsuppo...350support.php
>>>
>>> Yes I saw that and I wonder who is up to something.
>>
>> Yep. It does look like some unresolved Windows bugs might be the culprit
>> though.
>
> I think there is something else wrong because I've seen one WM6 PPC where I
> can use it for Bluetooth PAN and it never stops my Slingplayer.
>
> The Bluetooth PAN on the other WM6 PPC is much slower than the BT PAN on the
> Mogul but when I setup the Slingplayer to stream video at 1 FPS the speed of
> the two PPCs doesn't matter. All that matters then is the Slingplayer still
> quits if I'm getting BT PAN from the Mogul.
>
>>> FYI I have noticed that if I connect my Mogul to a laptop with a USB
>>> cable I might have to restart the Slingplayer on my laptop a few
>>> times to watch an hour long show.
>>
>> I haven't played with Slingplayer yet, so I can't say much there...
>
> I can use the Slingplayer on the Mogul itself without any problems and it
> looks sort of crummy when used in portrait mode but in landscape mode the
> quality surprises people.

Hmmmm, since I don't have a Slingplayer or a Mogul, I wouldn't know
where to begin troubleshooting that one...

--
Dutch
Sprint/Motorola RAZR V3m
tethered to PCLinuxOS 2008

"Dutch" <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
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> Roger 2008 wrote:
>
> > "Dutch" <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
> > news:i48t22myi46g.dlg@blackholespam.net...
> >> Roger 2008 wrote:
> >>
> >> Have you read Cradlepoint's notes about Windows Mobile devices?
> >>
> >> "(2) The user experience with devices running Windows Mobile is less
> >> robust than other phones and modems. Windows Mobile devices connected
to
> >> either a PC or a CradlePoint router have exhibited erratic behavior
> >> while using data sharing capabilities. Issues include frequent
> >> disconnects for no apparent reason and remedies entail frequent
> >> rebooting the phone and or removing the phone's battery. This problem
is
> >> not something that can be resolved by CradlePoint Technology and will
> >> need to be addressed by the phone manufacturer. Please refer to our FAQ
> >> section as well as our release notes."
> >>
> >> http://www.cradlepoint.com/techsuppo...350support.php
> >
> > Yes I saw that and I wonder who is up to something.
>
> Yep. It does look like some unresolved Windows bugs might be the culprit
> though.

I think there is something else wrong because I've seen one WM6 PPC where I
can use it for Bluetooth PAN and it never stops my Slingplayer.

The Bluetooth PAN on the other WM6 PPC is much slower than the BT PAN on the
Mogul but when I setup the Slingplayer to stream video at 1 FPS the speed of
the two PPCs doesn't matter. All that matters then is the Slingplayer still
quits if I'm getting BT PAN from the Mogul.


> > FYI I have noticed that if I connect my Mogul to a laptop with a USB
cable I
> > might have to restart the Slingplayer on my laptop a few times to watch
an
> > hour long show.
>
> I haven't played with Slingplayer yet, so I can't say much there...

I can use the Slingplayer on the Mogul itself without any problems and it
looks sort of crummy when used in portrait mode but in landscape mode the
quality surprises people.

"Dutch" <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
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- - - -
>
> Hmmmm, since I don't have a Slingplayer or a Mogul, I wouldn't know
> where to begin troubleshooting that one...

You can forget about the "Slingplayer" because I've streamed audio from the
following site and my Mogul still fails in time.
http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda/

I'm starting to wonder if Sprint builds something into their phones so
people can't use so much bandwidth.

Roger 2008 wrote:

> "Dutch" <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
> newslq3vpvbrlfp.dlg@blackholespam.net...
> - - - -
>>
>> Hmmmm, since I don't have a Slingplayer or a Mogul, I wouldn't know
>> where to begin troubleshooting that one...
>
> You can forget about the "Slingplayer" because I've streamed audio from the
> following site and my Mogul still fails in time.
> http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda/
>
> I'm starting to wonder if Sprint builds something into their phones so
> people can't use so much bandwidth.

I've streamed numerous videos through my V3m's data plan with no
apparent throttling. Even downloading 650MB ISO's doesn't seem to bother
the speed unless I'm on a particularly busy tower at the time.

--
Dutch
Sprint/Motorola RAZR V3m
tethered to PCLinuxOS 2008

"Dutch" <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
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> Roger 2008 wrote:
>
> > "Dutch" <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
> > newslq3vpvbrlfp.dlg@blackholespam.net...
> > - - - -
> >>
> >> Hmmmm, since I don't have a Slingplayer or a Mogul, I wouldn't know
> >> where to begin troubleshooting that one...
> >
> > You can forget about the "Slingplayer" because I've streamed audio from
the
> > following site and my Mogul still fails in time.
> > http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda/
> >
> > I'm starting to wonder if Sprint builds something into their phones so
> > people can't use so much bandwidth.
>
> I've streamed numerous videos through my V3m's data plan with no
> apparent throttling. Even downloading 650MB ISO's doesn't seem to bother
> the speed unless I'm on a particularly busy tower at the time.

OK. Then I'm always on a "busy tower" because I can't seem to get streaming
video or streaming audio from the URL above to last more than 15 minutes
anymore.

FYI I have seen streaming video via Bluetooth work for over an hour once but
then I had to hit the reset button on my Mogul to get that connection
working again.