Free iPhone WiFi is back (again)

This is getting more bizarre by the minute....
but ,as of 6:57 PM EDT, free iPhone WiFi is back.

iPhone News <invalid@nospam.net> wrote in news:invalid-
4302FA.18583109052008@news.giganews.com:

> This is getting more bizarre by the minute....
> but ,as of 6:57 PM EDT, free iPhone WiFi is back.
>

Does ATT really charge $60/mo for 450 minutes?!

How awful!

"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A99CBACA6632noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> iPhone News <invalid@nospam.net> wrote in news:invalid-
> 4302FA.18583109052008@news.giganews.com:
>
>> This is getting more bizarre by the minute....
>> but ,as of 6:57 PM EDT, free iPhone WiFi is back.
>>
>
> Does ATT really charge $60/mo for 450 minutes?!
>
> How awful!
>

39.95 Plus roll over.
Free nights an weekends.
24x7 to others on same network.

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:Lu7Vj.3290
$3O7.579@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net:

>> Does ATT really charge $60/mo for 450 minutes?!
>>
>> How awful!
>>
>
> 39.95 Plus roll over.
> Free nights an weekends.
> 24x7 to others on same network.
>
>

Is that an old plan?
Alltel 800 mins $39.95 NC/SC and some areas in states around
Free N/W, Free M2M any Alltel, Free LD/Voicemail
1 My Circle unlimited number any phone/cell
add $25 for unlimited tethered data (14GB last month, no threats)
No rollover, of course.

I was just shocked at the price on the two ads.....

At 10 May 2008 02:22:51 +0000 Larry wrote:

> Is that an old plan?


No, the $39.99/450 minutes is current. (The "$60" version includes iPhone
unlimited data.)

> Alltel 800 mins $39.95 NC/SC and some areas in states around


Sure- that's a regional plan with extra cost LD, and probably extra cost
roaming. AT&T's $40 includes N&W, M2M, is nationwide and includes rollover.

What does a $40 national Alltel plan buy?

On May 9, 6:58 pm, iPhone News <inva...@nospam.net> wrote:
> This is getting more bizarre by the minute....
> but ,as of 6:57 PM EDT, free iPhone WiFi is back.

Free iPhone WIFI is NOT back.

Here is the image of AT&T and as of Saturday 05/10/08 10 AM EDT it has
been removed AGAIN.

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...phonePlans.gif

Refresh your browser - no cached images!

Gizmodo has already commented on this in their blog !

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:g03c43$r3$2@aioe.org:

> Sure- that's a regional plan with extra cost LD, and probably extra
> cost roaming. AT&T's $40 includes N&W, M2M, is nationwide and
> includes rollover.
>
> What does a $40 national Alltel plan buy?
>
>
>

No extra cost LD. I can call any phone in the country, same price, from
INSIDE my regional area. I travel outside the region very infrequently,
even more infrequently at $4-5/gallon, now! When I do travel outside the
region, I simply call 611 or go to the webpage and buy 100 mins of
nationwide service for $10. My account is setup so that it will refill
the 100 minutes for $10 when it runs under 10 (I think) minutes so
there's no chance of roaming charges.

I only pay for nationwide service when I want to USE nationwide
service....more infrequently as fuel and traveling prices rise and rise.
It's a real consideration more people should be making these days. I
don't need service in Utah 99.9999% of my life. I'll buy it for $10 when
I do. That's only 10c/min for nationwide service-on-demand, which is
cheap.

$39.95 buys you 500 minutes on the nationwide plan with Free LD,
unlimited N/W, Unlimited M2M on Alltel and one My Circle unlimited number
on any system, phone or cellular in the country.

$10 more buys you 750 mins and 5 unlimited My Circle numbers on any
system.

Alltel's unlimited plans with My Circle are new and the new best deal.
$50 buys you 750 mins plus 5 My Circle numbers with unlimited N/W, M2M,
all the toys.
$60 is 900 mins plus 10 My Circle numbers
$80 is 1400 mins plus 10 My Circles but if you're going to go this far
you might as well spend $99 and just get nationwide unlimited with no
need of My Circle as you can call any number any time forever....all
unlimited, unless you have more than one phone sharing the plan. Of
course the $99 plan doesn't allow you to spend $10/extra phone/number to
share unlimited minutes. It's just for single phones and, curiously, not
available for smartphones and Blackberry for some strange reason that
escapes me.

Most Americans are not nationwide travelers and forcing them to buy only
nationwide plans they'll rarely, if ever, get use of is just stupid.
With the constantly rising price of fuel, transport tickets, hotels and
guest taxes, even more Americans are just wasting their money buying
nationwide SELLphone service. The carriers who don't offer local or
regional service are just fleecing them...especially Verizon and ATT.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
EA141D.06103010052008@nntp9.usenetserver.com:

> You pay for long distance
> calls (AT&T customers don't), plus you pay for roaming (AT&T customers
> don't).
>

You've got that all wrong, Elmo. From INSIDE my region, I can call any
phone in the country, including AK and HI without LD charges. As I rarely,
if ever, go outside my region, I never have roaming charges.

If I do decide to sneak down to Florida for some fun and games, I buy 100
mins of nationwide service for $10 either off the alltel webpages or just
call 611 and have it added on....10c/min nationwide service ONLY WHEN I
WANT IT.

The regional plan makes more and more sense every week as every travel
price, especially fuel, skyrockets, keeping more and more Americans HOME.

How many days last month did you spend out of your state and the states
around your home?....out of a regional plan. Wouldn't twice as many
minutes or a plan that gave you the same minutes at half the price have
been a better, more economical deal....especially now that you know you can
call anywhere in the country from inside that region without extra LD
charges?

4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in
news:21717a8a-4e3e-4ade-ac1e-4640ccba3401@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...one/plans/ipc_
> AttNationIphonePlans.gif

I notice the "unlimited data" has the disclaimer to protect them from the
NY State Attorney General, Mr Cuomo, "(email/web)"....which, of course,
ISN'T unlimited data AT ALL!

Cuomo needs to sue more SELLphone carriers lying to their subscribers....

"data" isn't about email and webpage browsing....

On 2008-05-10, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 10 May 2008 02:22:51 +0000 Larry wrote:
>
>> Is that an old plan?
>
> No, the $39.99/450 minutes is current. (The "$60" version includes iPhone
> unlimited data.)
>
>> Alltel 800 mins $39.95 NC/SC and some areas in states around
>
>
> Sure- that's a regional plan with extra cost LD, and probably extra cost
> roaming. AT&T's $40 includes N&W, M2M, is nationwide and includes rollover.
>
> What does a $40 national Alltel plan buy?

I think it is 500 minutes, with everthing AT&T offers except rollover.

I don't find Alltel particularly cheap at all, but this may be
because the only prices I pay close attention to there are those for
the "North America Freedom" plan, which includes Mexico roaming. I think
they want $170/month for about the same service that I pay Verizon
$110/month for now (I'd pay that if Verizon dumped me, however, since
it is still a bargain compared to the alternatives...).

Dennis Ferguson

At 10 May 2008 17:42:59 +0000 Larry wrote:

> You've got that all wrong, Elmo. From INSIDE my region, I can call any
> phone in the country, including AK and HI without LD charges. As I rarely,

> if ever, go outside my region, I never have roaming charges.

That's not bad, then.

> If I do decide to sneak down to Florida for some fun and games, I buy 100
> mins of nationwide service for $10 either off the alltel webpages or just
> call 611 and have it added on....10c/min nationwide service ONLY WHEN I
> WANT IT.


An ok deal I suppose, if you really need the 800 minutes a month at home.


> The regional plan makes more and more sense every week as every travel
> price, especially fuel, skyrockets, keeping more and more Americans HOME.
>
> How many days last month did you spend out of your state and the states
> around your home?....out of a regional plan. Wouldn't twice as many
> minutes or a plan that gave you the same minutes at half the price have
> been a better, more economical deal....especially now that you know you
can
> call anywhere in the country from inside that region without extra LD
> charges?


Yes, IF you need the extra minutes. The bigger problem, IMO, is that
$40/month has essentially become entry level for cell carriers. I barely
use a third of the minutes T-Mo gives me now, so paying an extra $10/month
the four months of the year I need nationwide minutes makes no sense, since
I'm on the smallest national plan T-Mo offers now.

At 10 May 2008 14:25:47 -0400 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:


> Of course, contract/postpaid plans that contain buckets of
> minutes--minutes that go to waste--and which lock you into paying no
> matter what happens in your life, are for suckers.


In your opinion, perhaps, but I find them a necessary evil. In my case, I
want unlimited data for web browsing, e-mail, etc, for both my phone and my
wife's, which no carrier offers on a prepaid plan. Therefore, my low-end T-
Mo family plan and two $6 web add-ons are the cheapest way to accomplish
the task, despite the 700-800 minutes of our 1000 minute bucket left on the
table each month! (We use more than 200 minutes- more like 800-1000
between us, but the majority are to/from our five "favorite" numbers, and
not counted as billed minutes, but would be on a prepaid plan. Of course,
if that were the case, we'd make far fewer calls!)

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:g05omr$36k$1@aioe.org:

> Yes, IF you need the extra minutes. The bigger problem, IMO, is that
> $40/month has essentially become entry level for cell carriers. I
> barely use a third of the minutes T-Mo gives me now, so paying an
> extra $10/month the four months of the year I need nationwide minutes
> makes no sense, since I'm on the smallest national plan T-Mo offers
> now.
>
>
>

I used 182 mins last month off the 800, about 400 mins on M2M and 300 on
N&W plus about 16.2GB of data at $25 to the tablet. I don't track Skype
usage or media streaming riding around in the cars...(c;

At SMS data rates, my Sellphone bill should have been around $612.8M...(c;

On 2008-05-10, Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> Of course, contract/postpaid plans that contain buckets of
> minutes--minutes that go to waste--and which lock you into paying no
> matter what happens in your life, are for suckers.

That depends. Contract plans can include services (other than just
"minutes") which are unavailable any other way.

My own plan with Verizon includes roaming in Canada and Mexico, and
phone service in Mexico in particular is dear enough that the cost of
the alternatives will pay for an entire year of the Verizon plan with
3500 minutes of use in Mexico. Since we used that much just in January
we're well into the black for 2008 and I don't particularly care if
the phones go entirely unused some months.

Dennis Ferguson