web-based ESN changer will allow a TDMA phone to be configured (kinda useless/kinda cool)

I just programmed my Panasonic Duramax (AMPS/TDMA) to work off of my verizon
account... now here's my question:

If I pop onto SID 1711 (ATTWS Houston/Lufkin area) and actually connect
using TDMA, will I be billed as a roaming call or would I be billed
normally? SID 1711 is most definetly in the PRL, and all of 1711 is
AMPS/TDMA.

Oh well, nobody's implimented 1x AMPS yet (300 baud? hehe) so back to the
v120e I go...

JS

PS - orange/green switchable LCD backlighting rocks!

"Jacob Suter" <jsuter@spamintrastar.net> wrote in article
<yFE6b.1972$Ze6.71@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>:
> I just programmed my Panasonic Duramax (AMPS/TDMA) to work off of my verizon
> account... now here's my question:
>
> If I pop onto SID 1711 (ATTWS Houston/Lufkin area) and actually connect
> using TDMA, will I be billed as a roaming call or would I be billed
> normally? SID 1711 is most definetly in the PRL, and all of 1711 is
> AMPS/TDMA.
>


You MAY be able to use AMPS, but I would think that ATT IRDB is going to
keep you on ATT affiliates that Verizon also uses.

As far as using TDMA, forget it. The network is not going to allow you.
The Verizon phone number and ESN will be unknown when a call is trying
to be set up.

But hey, give it a shot, experimenting is fun.


[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

>> If I pop onto SID 1711 (ATTWS Houston/Lufkin area) and actually connect
>> using TDMA, will I be billed as a roaming call or would I be billed
>> normally? SID 1711 is most definetly in the PRL, and all of 1711 is
>> AMPS/TDMA.
>>
>You MAY be able to use AMPS, but I would think that ATT IRDB is going to
>keep you on ATT affiliates that Verizon also uses.

True, although some phones let you program a local SID which will override the
IRDB.


>As far as using TDMA, forget it. The network is not going to allow you.
>The Verizon phone number and ESN will be unknown when a call is trying
>to be set up.
>
>But hey, give it a shot, experimenting is fun.

Interesting idea and I just tried it. Amazingly it worked for me. I activated a
6120 and it worked in both TDMA, analog (USC) and analog (Verizon) modes. I
could make and receive calls on all three (I never answered because I don't want
to pay $0.69 for each try).

Verizon has a roaming agreement with my local "A" TDMA carrier, USC. Since it
is not part of AC (SID 445), using it would incur roaming charges.

Since Verizon does not have a roaming agreement with AT&T in my area (AT&T is
TDMA 1900 MHz-only, so why would they have a roaming agreement?), I could not
use my 6160 phone (it did activate & worked when I got it to roam on USC TDMA).

Would you be charged if you connect to a SID in the AC PRL, even if you connect
via TDMA? Very interesting question. I would think probably not, but you'd
have to try it and see.

--
Dave
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> You MAY be able to use AMPS, but I would think that ATT IRDB is going to
> keep you on ATT affiliates that Verizon also uses.
>
> As far as using TDMA, forget it. The network is not going to allow you.
> The Verizon phone number and ESN will be unknown when a call is trying
> to be set up.

If you entered the esn into the web page prompt correctly,
And you programmed your correct phone number into the phone.
Then there is no reason why it shouldn't work.

As for as the IRDB goes, the TDMA phones I have
allow you to edit it.
Some allow you to edit the first five entries, which is
enough to still do the job.

When you make a call, the tower will check to see if you can run cdma.
It will find that you can't, so it will send you to an analog channel to
complete the call.

Same as it would do with an amps only phone.

<davNOLindiSpamatHotmaledotkom (David L)> wrote in message
news:vln84jfc70qnd0@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>
> "Jacob Suter" <jsuter@spamintrastar.net> wrote in article
> <yFE6b.1972$Ze6.71@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>:
> > I just programmed my Panasonic Duramax (AMPS/TDMA) to work off of my
verizon
> > account... now here's my question:
> >
> > If I pop onto SID 1711 (ATTWS Houston/Lufkin area) and actually connect
> > using TDMA, will I be billed as a roaming call or would I be billed
> > normally? SID 1711 is most definetly in the PRL, and all of 1711 is
> > AMPS/TDMA.
> >
>
>
> You MAY be able to use AMPS, but I would think that ATT IRDB is going to
> keep you on ATT affiliates that Verizon also uses.

I'll have to check this out. It did allow me to connect to the Home SID I
configured (verified via the fact that 611 went to Verizon, and inside my
house no other carrier has coverage) which is most definetly NOT allowed by
NAM1 (my deactivated AT&T account) since the phone goes straight to a "No
Service" banner (go figure! Cingular's repeater is *STILL* down!)

Oddly AT&T is in Verizon's PRL (Houston market "Digital choice" regional
plan), but AT&T most definetly will not allow roaming on SID 12 to their
customers. They get Cingular, which removed 3 of their 4 repeaters in this
county, creating HUGE holes in areas I regularly needed my cellphone to
work...

> As far as using TDMA, forget it. The network is not going to allow you.
> The Verizon phone number and ESN will be unknown when a call is trying
> to be set up.
>
> But hey, give it a shot, experimenting is fun.

Thats the part I'm wondering about. Oh well, if it works and they charge me
a couple minutes of roaming I'm not too concerned - just hoping it doesn't
raise some sort or a red flag on my account

JS