Cingular/ATT Coverage.

Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and given the
Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else considered switching to
Cingular/ATT?

John wrote:
> Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and
> given the Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else considered
> switching to Cingular/ATT?

Dream on dude... You have two glaring errors in your sentences above...
"signifigantly"?!?!?!??!?!? hahahhaahhaha "Debacle" HAHAHHAHA

"John" <Me@myhome.net> wrote in message
news:2CvKd.805$gA2.417@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and given
the
> Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else considered switching to
> Cingular/ATT?
>

I think VZW has an excellent network in the 3 states that I travel in. I
knew bluetooth was really insecure but after reading about a car that has
bluetooth getting a virus I am not sure VZW was so wrong in limiting its
"features".

Every day.

"John" <Me@myhome.net> wrote in message
news:2CvKd.805$gA2.417@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and given
the
> Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else considered switching to
> Cingular/ATT?
>
>

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:39:37 -0500, "John" <Me@myhome.net> wrote:

>Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and given the
>Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else considered switching to
>Cingular/ATT?

And the advantages of using bluetooth are?

(yeah, you can use it wirelessly with a headset and upload/download
images to and from a computer. Big deal IMHO. I use a wired headset or
speakerphone and a USB cable.)

> And the advantages of using bluetooth are?

I work with a critic's team that we have to send out in the field for
various assignments. My team goes out evaulating various business. We
have V505's with Cingular (under AT&T Wireless plans, but activated
post-merger). Because we cannot always verify that a team member has
actually visited the business on company time, we give them a GPS device
and a mobile phone. The mobile phone is used for voice and alphanumeric
paging, as well as camera capabilities. We require team members to
display the GPS device in a picture of the area in which he is assigned.
The GPS device displays a date, time, and co-ordinates of the
location. None of these can be changed with the device, and are used to
verify the authenticity of the photograph which proves physical location
and time/date. We adopted this standard after we caught a team member
falsifying information.

Using bluetooth has been wonderful. When a team member returns to the
office, we can immediately download information from the phone. No need
for cables, and we can download the information while he's got the phone
on a holster clip. We can also sync appointments on the phone via
bluetooth.

Even though we only have a couple of hundred team members with these
phones, bluetooth makes life much easier for us.

> (yeah, you can use it wirelessly with a headset and upload/download
> images to and from a computer. Big deal IMHO. I use a wired headset or
> speakerphone and a USB cable.)

Added benefit.

>>Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and
>>given the Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else considered
>>switching to Cingular/ATT?
>
> Dream on dude... You have two glaring errors in your sentences above...
> "signifigantly"?!?!?!??!?!? hahahhaahhaha "Debacle" HAHAHHAHA

Actually, taking a look at the areas in which GSM is available vs. the
areas it was available just 24, 18, or even 12 months ago, the coverage
has vastly improved.

Many people also report that call quality is higher using a GSM
compatible device than it is using a CDMA compatible device.

John wrote:
> Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and given the
> Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else considered switching to
> Cingular/ATT?
>
>
Cold day in hell before I go back to Cingular. Half my house and my
work location were out of service last I had them, still they wouldn't
let me out of my contract. I had to lawyer up to get out of it. Calls
going right to voice mail instead of ringing, bah humbug on that. I now
have VZ, and my phone works everywhere I go. Of course, I live in San
Diego, CDMA's birthplace, I bet that helps.

Brian

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:00:00 GMT, Tropical Haven <user@example.net>
wrote:

>>>Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and
>>>given the Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else considered
>>>switching to Cingular/ATT?
>>
>> Dream on dude... You have two glaring errors in your sentences above...
>> "signifigantly"?!?!?!??!?!? hahahhaahhaha "Debacle" HAHAHHAHA
>
>Actually, taking a look at the areas in which GSM is available vs. the
>areas it was available just 24, 18, or even 12 months ago, the coverage
>has vastly improved.
>
>Many people also report that call quality is higher using a GSM
>compatible device than it is using a CDMA compatible device.

I agree that you get better sound quality on a GSM phone.

However, even with the combined AT&T/Cingular network, you still get
better OVERALL coverage and call quality (less dropped calls, better
signal, etc) on Verizon. That's been my practical experience with my
VZW phone and my wife's Cingular phone.

Of course your mileage may vary, but that's just been my personal
experience.

Dave

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:26:19 -0500, "George" <george@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>
>"John" <Me@myhome.net> wrote in message
>news:2CvKd.805$gA2.417@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .
>> Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and given
>the
>> Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else considered switching to
>> Cingular/ATT?
>>
>
> I think VZW has an excellent network in the 3 states that I travel in. I
>knew bluetooth was really insecure but after reading about a car that has
>bluetooth getting a virus I am not sure VZW was so wrong in limiting its
>"features".
>
Dropped Verizon 9 months ago before ATT merger.

Too many dropped calls and weak, digitalized signals.

Analog is all but worthless these days. GSM rules the day.

Now have Cingular service with Moto V600 and Jabra BT250 bluetooth
earpiece.

Works like a charm and roll-over minutes never have to pay extra $$$
for extra minutes.

Never going back to VZW or non-bluetooth phones.

Face it: Verizon screwed you folks who are still stuck with their
crappy CDMA/AMPS "service" and non-bluetooth phones.

Ranger307 wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:26:19 -0500, "George" <george@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "John" <Me@myhome.net> wrote in message
>> news:2CvKd.805$gA2.417@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>> Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and
>>> given the Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else
>>> considered switching to Cingular/ATT?
>>>
>>
>> I think VZW has an excellent network in the 3 states that I travel
>> in. I knew bluetooth was really insecure but after reading about a
>> car that has bluetooth getting a virus I am not sure VZW was so
>> wrong in limiting its "features".
>>
> Dropped Verizon 9 months ago before ATT merger.
>
> Too many dropped calls and weak, digitalized signals.
>
> Analog is all but worthless these days. GSM rules the day.
>
> Now have Cingular service with Moto V600 and Jabra BT250 bluetooth
> earpiece.
>
> Works like a charm and roll-over minutes never have to pay extra $$$
> for extra minutes.
>
> Never going back to VZW or non-bluetooth phones.
>
> Face it: Verizon screwed you folks who are still stuck with their
> crappy CDMA/AMPS "service" and non-bluetooth phones.

My sincere condolences, not only on your POS phone, but your obvious major
mental instabilty.....

In article <PtOdnXq7Ethpk2bcRVn-uw@speakeasy.net>, tcpipman@hotmail.com
says...
> John wrote:
> > Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and given the
> > Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else considered switching to
> > Cingular/ATT?
> >
> >
> Cold day in hell before I go back to Cingular. Half my house and my
> work location were out of service last I had them, still they wouldn't
> let me out of my contract. I had to lawyer up to get out of it. Calls
> going right to voice mail instead of ringing, bah humbug on that. I now
> have VZ, and my phone works everywhere I go. Of course, I live in San
> Diego, CDMA's birthplace, I bet that helps.
>

You know .... complains like this are like complaining that you do not
have Verizon coverage at the North Pole. Everything depends on
locations. I bet there are places where Cingular coverage is better than
Verizon's and vice versa

AP

> Analog is all but worthless these days. GSM rules the day.

As long as you are in a GSM coverage area.

Three years ago I had my daughter on Cingular. It was fine for her in
Knoxville TN and most populated areas in the south (former Bell South
network).

She had a summer job in Cleveland OH and I went in to the store in March to
change her plan to cingular nation (it was off contact and I agreed to a new
one yr contract) in anticipation of working in OH. I specifically asked if
Cleveland had CN coverage - he said Yes. She arrives and had no service
where she was staying (near the airport). We went up the next weekend and I
called cingular CS on my verizon phone. They said "oh, you need a dual mode
phone. It will cost you $70 to upgrade." I hated to spend $70 on a new phone
but said "Ok, send her a new phone. Can you rush it to her summer address?"
He said "It won't be available for 3 months." I was pissed that they didn't
mention this in March (and why mention that she needed a dual mode if it
wasn't actually available for sale?) There was no way I was going to pay $40
a month for phone service that wasn't available or allow her to live in a
strange city without a working phone. I went to the store when we got home
and intended to cancel the account. He said they were expecting some duals
in but didn't know the exact date so I gave him one week to find me one or
cancel the account. They couldn't get me a phone and he was going to charge
me the early cancellation fee until I *****ed about not being told she
needed a dual mode in March when he (same guy) made the change (I told him
why I was wanted the CN plan and where it would be used and he knew what
phone I had and never once mentioned Cleveland might not have GSM coverage).
I was also willing to buy one, but they didn't have any. (Not having a phone
to sell me was what got me out of the contract.)

My next stop was at Verizon. I got her the same phone I had because I
knew it worked there.

Granted, coverage is better now and Cleveland might have good GSM now - but
my story illustrates the problem with single mode phones in some areas.

(My new phone is a digital but the other phones on our plans are trimodes
and I figure when I'm in rural areas another family member will be with me
or I'll take their phone.)

I have been with Verizon for over 9 years and recently switched to
Cingular. I wanted a Treo 600 without a data plan (work would not pay
for that) and Verizon said no, Cingular worked around their system to
give it to me. The other advantage is that Cingular works most of the
time in my office and Verizon was completely dead. Granted my office is
celluar hell but Cingular GSM is the least bad there

I still have a phone on Verizon for my mom. Basically a safety plan with
few minutes but that is all that she needs and her phone is a tri-mode
that works just about anywhere (except of course my office

John wrote:
> Since the Cingular/ATT coverage map has improved significantly and given the
> Bluetooth debacle with Verizon, has anyone else considered switching to
> Cingular/ATT?
>
>

Verizon's Americas Choice product includes service in North Pole, Alaska
(on towers owned by ACS).

-Dave
(being a wise-ass)

AP wrote:
> In article <PtOdnXq7Ethpk2bcRVn-uw@speakeasy.net>, tcpipman@hotmail.com
> says...
>
> You know .... complains like this are like complaining that you do not
> have Verizon coverage at the North Pole. Everything depends on
> locations. I bet there are places where Cingular coverage is better than
> Verizon's and vice versa