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Old 06-27-2005, 09:07 AM   #1
johnwolmer@hotmail.com
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Join the Rogers-Fido news group!


You are invited you to join the Rogers-Fido news group!

Welcome to Rogers-Fido! The Google newsgroup about GSM cellular service in
Canada!

A new Forum for discussing GSM cellular service and technologies in Canada.

Comments good and bad on the cellular phone service operated by Rogers
Wireless and Fido Solutions are welcome!

Visit this group on the web by using this URL:

>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Rogers-Fido<




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Old 06-27-2005, 04:35 PM   #2
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Re: Join the Rogers-Fido news group!


Joseph wrote:

>>You are invited you to join the Rogers-Fido news group!
>>
>>Visit this group on the web by using this URL:
>>
>>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Rogers-Fido<

>
> News flash! It's not a news group! It's a discussion group hosted by
> google. It's not a news group! Private discussion groups and usenet
> news are two different puppies.


You can't really blame him *too* much for not making the distinction. Google
sure doesn't make that distinction. "Google Groups" *includes* all of the
archived newsgroups *and* the web forums.

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Old 06-28-2005, 01:07 AM   #3
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Re: Join the Rogers-Fido news group!


Joseph wrote:

> google groups and beta-google groups are different.


And most people probably don't realize that...

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Old 07-03-2005, 09:50 AM   #4
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Re: Join the Rogers-Fido news group!



"Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ekj2c119e6a52lrrkk6ipcfrjpok9q8240@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:07:14 -0700, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Joseph wrote:
> >
> >> google groups and beta-google groups are different.

> >
> >And most people probably don't realize that...

>
> And you know this because... ?
> - -
>




He knows most people.


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Old 07-03-2005, 11:24 AM   #5
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Re: Join the Rogers-Fido news group!


Hugh Jass wrote:

>>>>google groups and beta-google groups are different.
>>>
>>>And most people probably don't realize that...

>>
>>And you know this because... ?

>
> He knows most people.


I said *probably.*

I've worked for ISPs before. Many people (including many of my former
customers) would scratch their head in confusion if you said "usenet" or
"newsgroups" - it's not like 10-15 years ago. Usenet just isn't as big a
communications medium as it used to be, and a lot of people don't have a
clue that it exists, let alone what it is.

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Old 07-05-2005, 11:01 AM   #6
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Re: Join the Rogers-Fido news group!


I can't believe so many people (including me, now, I guess) have spent time
talking about the distinction between a Google discussion group (beta or
otherwise) and a Usenet group.

With all the upheaval because caused by the Rogers-Fido integration, aren't
there more important issues to GSM subscribers in Canada?

> From: Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
> Organization: Glorb Internet Services, http://www.glorb.com
> Newsgroups:
> alt.cellular.rogersatt,alt.cellular.fido,alt.cellu lar.gsm,alt.cellular.nokia,a
> lt.cellular.motorola,alt.cellular.sonyericsson,alt .cellular,alt.cellular.erics
> son,alt.cellular.data,alt.cellular.bluetooth
> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 10:24:25 -0700
> Subject: Re: Join the Rogers-Fido news group!
>
> Hugh Jass wrote:
>
>>>>> google groups and beta-google groups are different.
>>>>
>>>> And most people probably don't realize that...
>>>
>>> And you know this because... ?

>>
>> He knows most people.

>
> I said *probably.*
>
> I've worked for ISPs before. Many people (including many of my former
> customers) would scratch their head in confusion if you said "usenet" or
> "newsgroups" - it's not like 10-15 years ago. Usenet just isn't as big a
> communications medium as it used to be, and a lot of people don't have a
> clue that it exists, let alone what it is.
>
> --
> JustThe.net - Steve Sobol / sjsobol@JustThe.net / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
> Coming to you from Southern California's High Desert, where the
> temperatures are as high as the gas prices! / 888.480.4NET (4638)
>
> "Life's like an hourglass glued to the table" --Anna Nalick, "Breathe"


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Old 07-05-2005, 05:01 PM   #7
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Re: Join the Rogers-Fido news group!


I think most people have resigned themselves to the fact that either
Fido has gotten so bad that they're quitting as soon as it's convenient
for them to do so (I already have) or that Rogers will effectively kill
it off, meaning it's time to start shopping for another deal. It's a
shame that there isn't another GSM service provider in Canada (yet there
are two CDMA). Good work, ****heads at CRTC and the Competition Bureau
(I actually know a guy who works there - the description fits). So the
only thing left to argue about is how much worse it can get or just
trivial **** like the distinction between a newsgroup and a bulletin board.



johnwolmer@hotmail.com wrote:
> I can't believe so many people (including me, now, I guess) have spent time
> talking about the distinction between a Google discussion group (beta or
> otherwise) and a Usenet group.
>
> With all the upheaval because caused by the Rogers-Fido integration, aren't
> there more important issues to GSM subscribers in Canada?
>
>
>>From: Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
>>Organization: Glorb Internet Services, http://www.glorb.com
>>Newsgroups:
>>alt.cellular.rogersatt,alt.cellular.fido,alt.cel lular.gsm,alt.cellular.nokia,a
>>lt.cellular.motorola,alt.cellular.sonyericsson,a lt.cellular,alt.cellular.erics
>>son,alt.cellular.data,alt.cellular.bluetooth
>>Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 10:24:25 -0700
>>Subject: Re: Join the Rogers-Fido news group!
>>
>>Hugh Jass wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>>google groups and beta-google groups are different.
>>>>>
>>>>>And most people probably don't realize that...
>>>>
>>>>And you know this because... ?
>>>
>>>He knows most people.

>>
>>I said *probably.*
>>
>>I've worked for ISPs before. Many people (including many of my former
>>customers) would scratch their head in confusion if you said "usenet" or
>>"newsgroups" - it's not like 10-15 years ago. Usenet just isn't as big a
>>communications medium as it used to be, and a lot of people don't have a
>>clue that it exists, let alone what it is.
>>
>>--
>>JustThe.net - Steve Sobol / sjsobol@JustThe.net / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
>>Coming to you from Southern California's High Desert, where the
>>temperatures are as high as the gas prices! / 888.480.4NET (4638)
>>
>>"Life's like an hourglass glued to the table" --Anna Nalick, "Breathe"

>
>

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