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  1. #16
    jeremy
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    Re: NEWS: AT&T Prepares to 'De-Brand' the Cingular Wireless Name


    "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > jeremy wrote:
    >
    >> Cingular seems to have deliberately cut back TDMA access, trying to twist
    >> their customers' arms to re-up as new GSM customers. I don't think their
    >> plan worked.

    >
    > Part of it is that they need the spectrum for GSM users, which represent
    > over 95% of their customers, and even more of their total minutes.
    >
    > The arm-twisting was a calculated move. They knew that they'd lose some
    > customers, but that others would sign up as GSM customers with new
    > contracts at higher rates. The only way to force this to happen was to
    > accept the fact that some customers would leave. It's not as if the
    > customers that left found any cheaper rates elsewhere, the low AT&T
    > Wireless rates are gone forever. I guess that Verizon and Sprint could
    > also kick customers like me off the lower rate plans if they wanted to.



    I'll tell you what really got my goat:

    The fact that they played their little game and jeopardized their customers'
    safety, and that they were so cold-hearted about it.

    Remember, I continued to pay monthly charges for my service, and had they
    offered me an upgrade to GSM that would not result in my having to pay new
    setup charges, new handset charges, and 25% higher rates than I had been
    getting, I'd have switched.

    Instead they cheerfully took our money and quietly turned the response
    down--to the point that we had to WAIT to log into towers to make calls, or
    have our phones shut off for no apparent reason. And when we called for
    service, they had a scripted response--"UPGRADE!"

    The carrier that boasted of the lowest number of dropped calls was going out
    of its way to repeatedly drop calls for a big segment of their
    newly-acquired customer base. I have a high sense of principle about such
    mean-spirited tactics, and I will never give them a single cent worth of my
    future business. And, judging from some of the news articles I've read,
    there are millions of other ex-customers who won't favor them with their
    future business either.

    Only in America can big companies throw away customers, as though they were
    just trash! Cingular, literally, threw us away. And their senior
    executives pat each others backs over it!

    Sprint, on the other hand, was delightful to work with. Despite all the
    negative comments I've seen about them, my experience was nothing but
    positive. No unexplained dropped calls. No phone shut-downs. No billing
    errors. No roaming charges. No charges for m2m. No service outages.
    Courteous customer service reps. It's been a year now, and the difference
    between the two carriers is striking.

    AND, my Sprint phones hop over to Verizon when there is a "hole" in the
    Sprint network. No roaming, either. And in areas served by only AMPS my
    Sprint phone can make and receive calls, unlike most of Cingular, whose
    phones don't work on AMPS.

    I have gone from having been very frustrated and angry, to very satisfied,
    and happy.





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  2. #17
    SMS
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    Re: NEWS: AT&T Prepares to 'De-Brand' the Cingular Wireless Name

    jeremy wrote:

    > AND, my Sprint phones hop over to Verizon when there is a "hole" in the
    > Sprint network. No roaming, either. And in areas served by only AMPS my
    > Sprint phone can make and receive calls, unlike most of Cingular, whose
    > phones don't work on AMPS.


    Note that you can roam onto Cingular's AMPS network with both Sprint and
    Verizon tri-mode phones. Cingular users, other than the few percent that
    haven't switched to GSM, can't use the Cingular AMPS network. Cingular
    is chomping at the bit waiting for 2008 so they can turn off AMPS.



  3. #18
    jeremy
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    Re: NEWS: AT&T Prepares to 'De-Brand' the Cingular Wireless Name


    "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > jeremy wrote:
    >
    >> AND, my Sprint phones hop over to Verizon when there is a "hole" in the
    >> Sprint network. No roaming, either. And in areas served by only AMPS my
    >> Sprint phone can make and receive calls, unlike most of Cingular, whose
    >> phones don't work on AMPS.

    >
    > Note that you can roam onto Cingular's AMPS network with both Sprint and
    > Verizon tri-mode phones. Cingular users, other than the few percent that
    > haven't switched to GSM, can't use the Cingular AMPS network. Cingular is
    > chomping at the bit waiting for 2008 so they can turn off AMPS.


    I wasn't aware that Cingular even HAD an AMPS network!

    Did Cingular ever sell AMPS service? Bag phones?





  4. #19
    SMS
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    Re: NEWS: AT&T Prepares to 'De-Brand' the Cingular Wireless Name

    jeremy wrote:
    > "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> jeremy wrote:
    >>
    >>> AND, my Sprint phones hop over to Verizon when there is a "hole" in the
    >>> Sprint network. No roaming, either. And in areas served by only AMPS my
    >>> Sprint phone can make and receive calls, unlike most of Cingular, whose
    >>> phones don't work on AMPS.

    >> Note that you can roam onto Cingular's AMPS network with both Sprint and
    >> Verizon tri-mode phones. Cingular users, other than the few percent that
    >> haven't switched to GSM, can't use the Cingular AMPS network. Cingular is
    >> chomping at the bit waiting for 2008 so they can turn off AMPS.

    >
    > I wasn't aware that Cingular even HAD an AMPS network!


    Huge AMPS network. Every area where Cingular has 800 MHz TDMA they have
    AMPS. These AMPS networks are all still up, and can't be taken down
    until 2008. I was just using one of Cingular's AMPS networks in December.



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