TREO 650 Unlocking?

This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
mostly unlocking services.

How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?

Is it necessary to change the software load on the phone to work with
T-mobile's Tzones internet instead of Cingular's Media Net?

Or do I just need to change gateway, etc?

I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
alternate browser like Opera Mini.

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On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:46:35 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Thurman wrote:
>> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:51:06 -0700, "[email protected]"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
>>>> mostly unlocking services.
>>>>
>>>> How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>>> Ask Cingular to do it. I just got the unlock code for my old V551 that
>>> way.
>>
>> Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused.
>
>Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if
>you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy
>prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad band
>phone.

All it actually takes normally is an account in good standing.

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At 22 Apr 2007 19:46:35 -0700 SMS wrote:

> Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if
> you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy
> prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad
> band phone.

Canada and Mexico use 850 and/or 1900, so any Cingular phone can
theoretically be used outside the US.


> My mom couldn't get them to unlock her Nokia phone when she was moving
> from Cingular to T-Mobile...

I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching
carriers... ;-)


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You will need to get the phone SIM Unlocked to use a foreign SIM. Cingular
will give you the code if you have a Valid Acct. Lately they have asked for
proof of purchase.
I also HIGHLY recommend that you look at this thread. I did this and was a
very smart move. Makes you end up with a Plain Unbranded TREO 650 GSM. Frees
up memory also. Read it over, read it again, and then read it again. If you
read it and follow instructions it is a breeze. But if you do not, you may
get a brick. THIS DOES NOT UNLOCK YOUR PHONE

http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...ad.php?t=87669




"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
> mostly unlocking services.
>
> How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>
> Is it necessary to change the software load on the phone to work with
> T-mobile's Tzones internet instead of Cingular's Media Net?
>
> Or do I just need to change gateway, etc?
>
> I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
> to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
> alternate browser like Opera Mini.

Todd Allcock wrote:

> I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching
> carriers... ;-)

Duh!

They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking
north American phones is really not in their interest.

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:42:19 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching
>> carriers... ;-)
>
>Duh!

Actually makes no difference.

>They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking
>north American phones is really not in their interest.

AT&T/Cingular will unlock any phone it has sold for an account in good
standing.

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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

At 23 Apr 2007 09:42:19 -0700 SMS wrote:

> > I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching
> > carriers... ;-)
>
> Duh!
>
> They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking
north American phones is really not in their interest.

Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost
revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada,
or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their
international rates.

Anyway, compared to (the old) AT&T's no unlocking for any reason ever
policy, Cingular is rather generous.



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Todd Allcock wrote:

> Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost
> revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada,
> or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their
> international rates.

They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:38:03 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost
>> revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada,
>> or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their
>> international rates.
>
>They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
>about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.

"They" (it) isn't worried about any SIM anywhere.

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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

At 23 Apr 2007 12:38:03 -0700 SMS wrote:

> They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
> about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.

Using that logic, how is unlocking a quad-band phone any "safer" for
them?" Arguably I'm far more likely to take a higher-end Cingular phone
to T-Mo than an 850/1900-only phone that T-Mo would give me for free at
signup anyway.

Although I'm notplanning to leave T-Mo anytime soon, you can be darn sure
I had them give me the unlock code for my $250 MDA PPC phone and my
Symbian Nokia 3650 as soon as I\was ellugible. I've never bothered
requesting the codes for my crummy Nokia 6030s however.



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I unlocked a Treo 650 using a service in the UK for about $20. Bought
it online, got a key via email, downloaded unlocking SW and it was
painless.

No need to change anything on the phone - buy the $35 internet package
from t-mob and everything just worked.

I did need to modify my ROM for > 1GB Sim cards and then also took out
a lot of Cingular junk to get about 1MB of memory back, but thats
definitely optional.

SS


On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:49:31 -0700, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
>mostly unlocking services.
>
>How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>
>Is it necessary to change the software load on the phone to work with
>T-mobile's Tzones internet instead of Cingular's Media Net?
>
>Or do I just need to change gateway, etc?
>
>I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
>to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
>alternate browser like Opera Mini.