Re: iPhone bricks - more info

Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:

> > so you don't know how to work ebay it seems, do a "completed" listing
> > search, then sort high to low... the highest go for $300-$320 or so, but
> > average is $139... and since my perfect feedback ensures i'll at least
> > get that much, probably a bit more, i'm golden.
>
> No, I buy and sell a lot. Just realistic. Good luck, though.

i do as well, so it should be fine, the worthless value of the dollar
has really juiced international buyers, so it's a fun game to play...

At 22 Oct 2007 12:35:23 -0700 Tinman wrote:

> Also, you can't use the credit for iTunes Store purchases. Personally,
I
> found that odd.

I don't. The gross margin on Apple hardware is 40-50%, while the margin
on iTunes songs is likely 10% or less. Tha $100 credit would cost Apple
nearly $100 at iTMS, vs. the $50-60 it costs them if you redeem it for
hardware.

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> I don't. The gross margin on Apple hardware is 40-50%, while the margin
> on iTunes songs is likely 10% or less. Tha $100 credit would cost Apple
> nearly $100 at iTMS, vs. the $50-60 it costs them if you redeem it for
> hardware.

the margin on a song is 30ish% - apple makes .29 cents on each song.

If you people don't want an iPhone, and hate them so much, why are you
all going out of your way to try and dismiss them as garbage? Just don't
get one and enjoy whatever phone you have and move on.

These jealous rants about iphones are just proving to all just how much
you really want one. I have yet to see anyone who actually owns one
complain about it. <yawn>

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On 2007-10-23, ben henderson <bh@nospam.com> wrote:

> If you people don't want an iPhone, and hate them so much, why are you
> all going out of your way to try and dismiss them as garbage? Just don't
> get one and enjoy whatever phone you have and move on.

I'm not, but I'm really sick and ****ing tired of people posting all the
iPhone crap in newsgroups dedicated to CARRIERS WHOSE NETWORKS THE iPHONE
WON'T EVEN RUN ON.

Alt.cellular.cingular, OK. Alt.cellular.tmobile, OK, at least it's the
same technology. .verizon, .sprintpcs, .alltel - come on, those customers
couldn't use a GSM iPhone even if it was unlocked. I've seen posts in all
of those newsgroups. .nokia? Why? So some drooling Apple fanboy can tell us
all how much Nokia sucks?

My take is that the iPhone is cool. I wouldn't buy one, but I can understand
why other people might. But several newsgroups have been overrun by iPhone
posts. It's obnoxious. Go away already; many (most?) of us don't care.

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Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
A41384.07394123102007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:

> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't. The gross margin on Apple hardware is 40-50%, while the margin
>> on iTunes songs is likely 10% or less. Tha $100 credit would cost Apple
>> nearly $100 at iTMS, vs. the $50-60 it costs them if you redeem it for
>> hardware.
>
> the margin on a song is 30ish% - apple makes .29 cents on each song.
>

That's not true at all. They make much less than that. Please cite your
source for that information.

"ben henderson" <bh@nospam.com> wrote in message news:bh-08F294.14200023102007@news.giganews.com...
>
>
> If you people don't want an iPhone, and hate them so much, why are you
> all going out of your way to try and dismiss them as garbage? Just don't
> get one and enjoy whatever phone you have and move on.
>
> These jealous rants about iphones are just proving to all just how much
> you really want one. I have yet to see anyone who actually owns one
> complain about it. <yawn>

Ben, Ben, Ben.......


It's not the case of me (others?) liking it and Apple - or not.
This is not what is happening.

What IS happening is some LOON of a fanboy (Oxford, or whatever name de jour)
coming into OUR group, making idiotic, baseless and inflammatory statements. Trying
to do everything possible to be a LARGE pain in the ass. The reaction to his insane **** is
what you are seeing. It is out of place and inappropriate. Not to mention 100% wrong.

Reign wackjob fanboy in and all will settle back down.

Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote:

> Oxtard <Oxtard@the.apple.brown.noser> wrote:
>
> > >http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_what_...ed_and_by_whom
> > >
> > >engineers still study and marvel at Woz's designs, he one of the true
> > >geniuses of our age. he did what nobody else could do before... make the
> > >first PC for the masses.
> >
> > Did you even bother to read the article you referenced?
> >
> > From it:
> >
> > "The first such desktop-size system specifically designed for personal
> > use appeared in 1974; it was offered by Micro Instrumentation
> > Telemetry Systems (MITS). The owners of the system were then
> > encouraged by the editor of a popular technology magazine to create
> > and sell a mail-order computer kit through the magazine. The computer,
> > which was called Altair, retailed for slightly less than $400. The
> > demand for the microcomputer kit was immediate, unexpected, and
> > totally overwhelming."
> >
> > 1974 came before 1976, you retarded pig ****er.
>
> but the machine in 1974 wasn't considered a personal computer. and was
> sold as a "kit", not a compete machine in a box like apple was first to
> do.
>
> keep trying though, we are all having fun laughing at you

That'll be the royal "we"...

--

Immunity is better than innoculation.

Peter

Oxford wrote:

> In article <a0lqf3lodkdkqq8nt5sjhcedpenljmhi09@4ax.com>,
> <apple.@re.****e.com> wrote:
>
>> > More Apple bollox, like the Apple Crap, sorry Mac Buy a decent phone
>> > like an
>> > N95. Face it, iPhone owners, you've been screwed by Jobs again.
>
> The Nokia N95 got HORRIBLE reviews compared to the iPhone.
>
> It wasn't even a contest, the iPhone easily won:
>
> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/inde...sid=11025&pn=4
>
>
> Nokia is in serious trouble. Even the Nokia CEO Olli Pekka Kallasvuo
> said he is ³paranoid² about Apple¹s entry into the cell phone market.
>
> They don't stand a chance... we all know that now!


What I got out of the review is that the iPhone is for the technically
challenged, the N95 is for the true techies. Last time I checked the market
share of devices which was a few days ago, Apple wasn't even on the map.
There have only been a million or so iPhone's sold which is not very much
compared to the billions of other manufactured devices. I have to admit
that I have never seen a piece of carcinogen producing plastic create such
a frenzy. At the end of the day, they are all still consumer grade personal
multimedia devices that can actually make phone calls and are marketed to
the masses like fast food.


Dave

In article <fpip5f0w3kfl$.1mk5n0laszbe9.dlg@40tude.net>, Traveling Man
<none@none.com> wrote:

> > Few people want AT&T as a carrier." It's always one of the top three,
> > but apparently people who want to complain ignore everyone who choses
> > it on purpose.
>
> Top three in what? Maybe in subscribers, but every customer survey I've
> read lately puts VZW on top, and AT&T down the list below T-Mobile.


Yes, I was writing about the number of subscribers, because the
statement was about selecting the carrier. The only quantifiable fact
we can use to show that consideration is the number of people actually
using the carrier.

Sure, people may WANT more from a carrier -- some expect the very best
of every story they've ever heard (lowest cost, best coverage, fastest
data network, most features, most open attitudes, unlimited handset
choice, all at the same time!). But the only way to actually show how
the choices affect what they actually do is to look at the one they
use.

Surveys about satisfaction are usually about specific features or
customer handling, not all issues at once.