Re: iPhone is AT&T's top-selling handset

At 23 Oct 2007 22:14:15 -0700 Mr. Strat wrote:

> The iPod is an excellent example of a do-dad that was engineered
> brilliantly...so much so that even a dummy could use it...and they
> captured the market with it.


I know I'll simply sound like an Apple-basher, or a "dummy" and perhaps
my perspective is clouded by being a nerd, but explain to me WHY it's so
"brilliant?"

I own a Nano (Gen 1) and find the nested menu system no more "brilliant"
than my original Rio 500's- the iPod's only easier to use because it has
a large display instead of a 2-line LCD.

And iTunes seems needlessly complicated to me. (I'm only ranting because
I used it last night for the first time in months to put "Pomp and
Circumstance" on the Nano for my daughter's "graduation" from Daisy scout
to Brownie."

I added the song to the library with the Nano connected, and couldn't for
the life of me figure out how to copy it to the Nano! I couldn't find a
"sync" or "update" button, and eventually just undocked/redocked to
initiate the sync. (I assume I was doing something wrong!)

(I should probably add the Nano is rarely used in my house. It was an
"impulse buy" I scored relatively cheaply when the Gen 2s came out, and
my wife had been wanting something small and thin for business trips and
commuting. Neither of us use it much- I upgraded her phone to a
smartphone shortly after, and despite the iPod's "brilliance" a single
device is easier to carry than two. The Nano is generally only used now
as background music for "public performances"- entertaining, school
parties, etc, when we don't want the music interrupted by a phone call!
;-)

I've offered the Nano to my daughter, but she prefers her crappy $40
Mattel "Mini-Media" MP3 player, because Mattel knew something three years
ago that Apple apparently didn't discover until last month- people want
to watch VIDEOs on small MP3 players, and for all of my $150 Gen-1 Nano's
"brilliance" a $40 Mattel "toy" with 128MB on board released around the
same time could handle MP4 video!

At 24 Oct 2007 07:05:24 -0400 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> That's not true anymore. People are adding all sorts of hardware to
> their configurations, and expecting it to work.

I should've been clearer- I ment "out of the box." My last few PCs have
included vendor (Gateway, Dell, HP) utilities pre-installed that replace
"official" Microsoft-supplied OS features, like checking the web for
driver/OS updates, or tutorial/help screens, etc.

At least when you add a third-party hardware device later and "break" the
stability of the OS, it's easy to point a finger at the offending device,
since the problem won't predate the installation. As someone who
occasionally assembles his own PC, or radically rebuilds/upgrades an
existing one, I'm constantly amazed at Windows' ability to remove and
reinstall the appropriate drivers and keep the OS chugging along.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:08:49 -0700, Mr. Strat wrote:

> What cell phone has the intuitive interface and design of the iPhone?

Any simple cell phone without the added fluff.

Using a cell phone to play MP3's is foolish IMO. It just runs down the
battery sooner.

"Traveling Man" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:08:49 -0700, Mr. Strat wrote:
>
>> What cell phone has the intuitive interface and design of the iPhone?
>
> Any simple cell phone without the added fluff.
>
> Using a cell phone to play MP3's is foolish IMO. It just runs down the
> battery sooner.

You think?? Man, you are smart.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:23:18 -0400, Darin Lomax wrote:

> "Traveling Man" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:1m0q8s0lrivq.2iyq2ix6delk.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:08:49 -0700, Mr. Strat wrote:
>>
>>> What cell phone has the intuitive interface and design of the iPhone?
>>
>> Any simple cell phone without the added fluff.
>>
>> Using a cell phone to play MP3's is foolish IMO. It just runs down the
>> battery sooner.
>
> You think?? Man, you are smart.

So I've been told.

Mark Thompson <markt@earthlink.net> wrote in news:markt-
97889D.13253920102007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net:

> The great news keeps on getting better!

Yes, it does.

You're killfiled.

byebye

Cyrus Afzali <pnsmnyv@lnubb.pbz> wrote:

> >> Hey jackass, stop posting to newsgroups that don't give a rat's ass about
> >> the ickphone. Man, I'm sick of this retarded bull****!
> >
> >not sure what you mean? the iPhone is the future of all cell phones, so
> >you might as well start learning about how it works.
>
> Apple said the Mac was the future of computing too and it never became
> more than a niche device that managed to only gain foothold in a few
> segments of the market.

yes, and almost 24 years later they were exactly correct. Now most EVERY
computer uses the Mac interface. Sure, some are still using Windows
which are very poorly made "Mac Clones", but everyone uses a Mac. Apple
was correct.

> Saying that any one device is the future template for everything in
> that category is just assinine. Why? Because people don't use devices
> in the same way. I couldn't give two flips about listening to music on
> a phone because I'd rather be able to put most of my entire digital
> collection on one device that actually has good sound quality and
> battery life. You won't get that through a phone; no way, no how.

Ah, but you don't understand how all this works. Apple sets the
direction for others to "follow", Apple doesn't need to make every
machine, it just needs to set the direction. Look at the PC, WWW, iPod,
iPhone, these are all SJ/Apple inspired devices and it's what everyone
users at one level or another.

The iPhone has wonderful batter life and the best sound of any
Cell/Smartphone. So learn a little will you?

> Likewise, the real profit drivers for cell phone companies are
> business users that use enterprise-class devices like Blackberry
> handhelds. Those people -- me included -- want reliable access to
> their work e-mail and decent data speeds. I don't make any money
> listening to music on my phone, but I do everytime I perform a client
> task.

The iPod is only one aspect, it's simply not the PRIMARY aspect. It's
also a FULL web browser, full email, full phone, nobody else has that in
such a small, powerful, low cost package. Only Apple has the resources
for such an achievement.

> >everyone knows it's the most powerful phone ever released, but yes, what
> >is unknown is how many cell handsets will disappear because of it.
>
> This is the most overblown argument in the history of modern
> civilization. People are always predicting the death of something when
> a new product emerges, but that very rarely happens. HD hasn't killed
> off traditional terrestrial TV, satellite radio didn't kill off
> terrestrial radio, laptops didn't doom desktop PCs... the list goes on
> and on and on.

Yes, but again it goes back to "the direction" that Apple now has
control over the cell/smartphone industry. This industry was floundering
until Apple set it straight on June 29th 2007. You'll see what I'm
talking about in about 2-20 years. Everything will try and work like
what Apple is doing. It's just how the universe works.

> >apple now controls the cell industry, like it or not.
>
> Tell that to Research In Motion, Nokia and Motorola, among others.
> >
> >learn it or stay in the dark. at least watch the well done guided tour,
> >but until then, please don't comment since you'll be laughed at!
>
> If just by you, I think I'll risk it.

Take a peek into the future of your phone here:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/gettings...uidedtour.html

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:02:09 -0700, Mark Thompson <markt@earthlink.net>
wrote in <markt-4EA951.10020107112007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net>:

>yes, and almost 24 years later they were exactly correct. Now most EVERY
>computer uses the Mac interface. ...

Actually the Xerox PARC interface.

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