Hey Oxford - more reality

"Mitch" <[email protected]> stated in post 181120071606090104%[email protected]
on 11/18/07 7:06 PM:

> In article <[email protected]>, CozmicDebris
> wrote:
>
>> I've responded to it all, Snot. You are simply acting like a child because
>> you didn't like the answers.
>
> No; you have made responses to the messages.
> You haven't responded to the content (what you were being asked) other
> than in one post saying "b'cause I said so, there."
>
> You defeated your own argument by being snotty and stupid.
> Now, even if you make an accurate claim or statement, people know not
> to believe you at all, and that asking you about it isn't worth their
> time or response.

Of his four claims he has only even *tried* to support one... and then he
noted that even though he could not support it someone of "minimal
intelligence" could. Sad to see him put himself down like that.


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In article <[email protected]>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Timberwoof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In article <C36519CC.99E0D%[email protected]>,
> > Snit <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
> > > [email protected] on 11/17/07 9:42 PM:
> > >
> > > >
> > > All that from you and you have yet to support your claims!
> > >
> > > * Wikipedia is wrong about Apple technologies... but you are right.
> > > * Apple is wrong about Apple technologies... but you are right.
> > > * I am wrong about how to ***** my online name... but you are right.
> > > * You can find a $700 laptop that does more than the Mac Oxford
> > > pointed to.
> > >
> > > With the first you just attacked Wikipedia but refused to show how it was
> > > wrong in this case - you have showed *nothing* that is contrary to the
> > > idea
> > > that AppleTalk was designed with networking in mind.
> > >
> > > With the second you have shown you did not understand the reference from
> > > *Apple* that talked about AppleTalk being designed for networking.
> >
> > Aroo? Wha? Did I just suffer a stroke? AppleTalk is a network protocol!
> > It's what Macs from the 128 to the BW G3 could use to talk to each other
> > and to things like Apple's laser printers.
> >
> > CozmicDebris, did you *really* claim that AppleTalk was not about
> > networking?
>
> AppleTalk is still in use today.
>
> The claim that "AppleTalk is what Macs from the 128 to the BWG3 could
> use to talk to each other" shows the world that you don't know what
> you're talking about.
>
> What you're talking about is LOCALTALK, which is the wiring. APPLETALK
> is the protocol, and is still in use today--although Apple is trying
> hard to kill it.

What protocol did the first Macs use to talk over LocalTalk? AppleTalk.

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"Timberwoof" <[email protected]> stated in post
timberwoof.spam-A28778.0822361911200...nntp.sonic.net on 11/19/07
9:22 AM:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <[email protected]>,
>> Timberwoof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <C36519CC.99E0D%[email protected]>,
>>> Snit <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
>>>> [email protected] on 11/17/07 9:42 PM:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> All that from you and you have yet to support your claims!
>>>>
>>>> * Wikipedia is wrong about Apple technologies... but you are right.
>>>> * Apple is wrong about Apple technologies... but you are right.
>>>> * I am wrong about how to ***** my online name... but you are right.
>>>> * You can find a $700 laptop that does more than the Mac Oxford
>>>> pointed to.
>>>>
>>>> With the first you just attacked Wikipedia but refused to show how it was
>>>> wrong in this case - you have showed *nothing* that is contrary to the
>>>> idea
>>>> that AppleTalk was designed with networking in mind.
>>>>
>>>> With the second you have shown you did not understand the reference from
>>>> *Apple* that talked about AppleTalk being designed for networking.
>>>
>>> Aroo? Wha? Did I just suffer a stroke? AppleTalk is a network protocol!
>>> It's what Macs from the 128 to the BW G3 could use to talk to each other
>>> and to things like Apple's laser printers.
>>>
>>> CozmicDebris, did you *really* claim that AppleTalk was not about
>>> networking?
>>
>> AppleTalk is still in use today.
>>
>> The claim that "AppleTalk is what Macs from the 128 to the BWG3 could
>> use to talk to each other" shows the world that you don't know what
>> you're talking about.
>>
>> What you're talking about is LOCALTALK, which is the wiring. APPLETALK
>> is the protocol, and is still in use today--although Apple is trying
>> hard to kill it.
>
> What protocol did the first Macs use to talk over LocalTalk? AppleTalk.

He got you on a technicality... and missed the point.


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that take our breath away.

In article <C364DB17.99D7F%[email protected]>,
Snit <[email protected]> wrote:

> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
> [email protected] on 11/17/07 5:45 PM:
>
> Info on your IP:
>
> NetRange: 76.25.0.0 - 76.25.255.255
> CIDR: 76.25.0.0/16
> NetName: COLORADO-24
>
> Funny how many folks from Colorado IPs post to CSMA - and how many of them
> come and go ... and show as little sense as you do. Coincidence, I am sure.
> LOL!

Yeah... Colorado only has 4 or 5 people living in it, Snit... and they
all have only a "little sense". LOL!

Snit wrote:

> "Maverick" <[email protected]> stated in post
> [email protected] on 11/18/07 10:58 AM:
>
>
>>CozmicDebris wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Snit <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>news:C364D7A3.99D5E%[email protected]:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
>>>>[email protected] on 11/17/07 5:17 PM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>What post did you think I did not respond to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>None.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh well. You are just delaying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Posted hours ago, twit. You're so stupid that you forgot your own
>>>>>delayed response to it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Snot is not very smart.
>>>>
>>>>And now you are going as far off topic as you can. OK. Let me know
>>>>if you decide if you think I responded or not.
>>>>
>>>>Better yet: actually support your claims... remember, here are your
>>>>claims:
>>>>
>>>> * Wikipedia is wrong about Apple technologies... but you are
>>>> right.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Wikipedia is full of inaacuracy and lies. No serious debate can occur
>>>with wikipedia as the authoritative souce.
>>>
>>
>>I know that Wiki is not an accurate source for information.
>>
>>http://www.wired.com/politics/online...8/wiki_tracker
>>
>>I don't trust our own Gov. anymore.
>
>
> Oh, sure, a citation from Wikipedia is not proof... but the fact is
> CozmicDebris' claim was wrong:
>
> Mark Crispen stated:
>
> It's also a stretch to call AppleTalk "networking".
> AppleTalk at its inception was little more than a printer
> I/O bus. It was only later that Apple realized that it could
> be extended to do file sharing.
>
> I refuted that idea with links and quotes from Wikipedia and Apple... to
> which CozmicDebris replied with:
>
> It shows that it was designed as an I/O bus.
>
> But it did not. Of course not. That would be silly for it to say since
> that is not the case.
>
>

I believe that technical articles from wiki are fairly accurate, but not
the ones involving any gov. agency or one individual that works for the Gov.

"Maverick" <[email protected]> stated in post
[email protected] on 11/19/07 7:39 PM:

>>> I know that Wiki is not an accurate source for information.
>>>
>>> http://www.wired.com/politics/online...8/wiki_tracker
>>>
>>> I don't trust our own Gov. anymore.
>>
>>
>> Oh, sure, a citation from Wikipedia is not proof... but the fact is
>> CozmicDebris' claim was wrong:
>>
>> Mark Crispen stated:
>>
>> It's also a stretch to call AppleTalk "networking".
>> AppleTalk at its inception was little more than a printer
>> I/O bus. It was only later that Apple realized that it could
>> be extended to do file sharing.
>>
>> I refuted that idea with links and quotes from Wikipedia and Apple... to
>> which CozmicDebris replied with:
>>
>> It shows that it was designed as an I/O bus.
>>
>> But it did not. Of course not. That would be silly for it to say since
>> that is not the case.
>
> I believe that technical articles from wiki are fairly accurate, but not
> the ones involving any gov. agency or one individual that works for the Gov.

If CozmicDebris had said he did not trust Wikipedia as an authoritative
source and then explained why he believed AppleTalk was designed as an I/O
bus for printers and the like then maybe he would not have been able to rise
to the occasion and act reasonably. Instead he claimed his completely
unsupported comments about AppleTalk were accurate and Wikipedia *and* Apple
were both wrong - though he gave not a shred of support for his claim and,
worse yet, sank to name calling, spewing of accusations, and other such
non-sense.

What is it with people from Colorado who post to CSMA? Seriously? Are they
all just one person posting with a bunch of sock puppets? Maybe it is a
group of people working in concert - or trying to in any case. Not all
people from Colorado are like those who post to CSMA... so there has to be
some other explanation as to why they share so many traits in common.

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that take our breath away.

Steve Carroll <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:


>
> There's a perfectly good explanation for what you are seeing... you're
> having another one of your delusions.
>

Snot's just sad because he can't enjoy the advantages in life that we do in
Colorado. He wouldn't know how to act if he couldn't see the air around
him.

In article <[email protected]>,
CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:

> Steve Carroll <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
> >
> > There's a perfectly good explanation for what you are seeing... you're
> > having another one of your delusions.
> >
>
> Snot's just sad because he can't enjoy the advantages in life that we do in
> Colorado. He wouldn't know how to act if he couldn't see the air around
> him.

Snit's main 'advantage' to enjoy at this point in his life is his never
ending prescription drug stash... it has him believing that there are
only about 4 people who live in CO

Snit wrote:

> "Maverick" <[email protected]> stated in post
> [email protected] on 11/19/07 7:39 PM:
>
>
>>>>I know that Wiki is not an accurate source for information.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.wired.com/politics/online...8/wiki_tracker
>>>>
>>>>I don't trust our own Gov. anymore.
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, sure, a citation from Wikipedia is not proof... but the fact is
>>>CozmicDebris' claim was wrong:
>>>
>>>Mark Crispen stated:
>>>
>>> It's also a stretch to call AppleTalk "networking".
>>> AppleTalk at its inception was little more than a printer
>>> I/O bus. It was only later that Apple realized that it could
>>> be extended to do file sharing.
>>>
>>>I refuted that idea with links and quotes from Wikipedia and Apple... to
>>>which CozmicDebris replied with:
>>>
>>> It shows that it was designed as an I/O bus.
>>>
>>>But it did not. Of course not. That would be silly for it to say since
>>>that is not the case.
>>
>>I believe that technical articles from wiki are fairly accurate, but not
>>the ones involving any gov. agency or one individual that works for the Gov.
>
>
> If CozmicDebris had said he did not trust Wikipedia as an authoritative
> source and then explained why he believed AppleTalk was designed as an I/O
> bus for printers and the like then maybe he would not have been able to rise
> to the occasion and act reasonably. Instead he claimed his completely
> unsupported comments about AppleTalk were accurate and Wikipedia *and* Apple
> were both wrong - though he gave not a shred of support for his claim and,
> worse yet, sank to name calling, spewing of accusations, and other such
> non-sense.
>
> What is it with people from Colorado who post to CSMA? Seriously? Are they
> all just one person posting with a bunch of sock puppets? Maybe it is a
> group of people working in concert - or trying to in any case. Not all
> people from Colorado are like those who post to CSMA... so there has to be
> some other explanation as to why they share so many traits in common.
>

The only thing I know about Colorado is that their freeway on ramps
really suck. There isn't a merge lane... you just get dumped right into
fast moving traffic. Plus I found them to be rude.

"Maverick" <[email protected]> stated in post
[email protected] on 11/19/07 9:24 PM:

> Snit wrote:
>
>> "Maverick" <[email protected]> stated in post
>> [email protected] on 11/19/07 7:39 PM:
>>
>>
>>>>> I know that Wiki is not an accurate source for information.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wired.com/politics/online...8/wiki_tracker
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't trust our own Gov. anymore.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, sure, a citation from Wikipedia is not proof... but the fact is
>>>> CozmicDebris' claim was wrong:
>>>>
>>>> Mark Crispen stated:
>>>>
>>>> It's also a stretch to call AppleTalk "networking".
>>>> AppleTalk at its inception was little more than a printer
>>>> I/O bus. It was only later that Apple realized that it could
>>>> be extended to do file sharing.
>>>>
>>>> I refuted that idea with links and quotes from Wikipedia and Apple... to
>>>> which CozmicDebris replied with:
>>>>
>>>> It shows that it was designed as an I/O bus.
>>>>
>>>> But it did not. Of course not. That would be silly for it to say since
>>>> that is not the case.
>>>
>>> I believe that technical articles from wiki are fairly accurate, but not
>>> the ones involving any gov. agency or one individual that works for the Gov.
>>
>>
>> If CozmicDebris had said he did not trust Wikipedia as an authoritative
>> source and then explained why he believed AppleTalk was designed as an I/O
>> bus for printers and the like then maybe he would not have been able to rise
>> to the occasion and act reasonably. Instead he claimed his completely
>> unsupported comments about AppleTalk were accurate and Wikipedia *and* Apple
>> were both wrong - though he gave not a shred of support for his claim and,
>> worse yet, sank to name calling, spewing of accusations, and other such
>> non-sense.
>>
>> What is it with people from Colorado who post to CSMA? Seriously? Are they
>> all just one person posting with a bunch of sock puppets? Maybe it is a
>> group of people working in concert - or trying to in any case. Not all
>> people from Colorado are like those who post to CSMA... so there has to be
>> some other explanation as to why they share so many traits in common.
>
> The only thing I know about Colorado is that their freeway on ramps
> really suck. There isn't a merge lane... you just get dumped right into
> fast moving traffic. Plus I found them to be rude.

I spend some time in Denver a number of years ago... doing a post-college
bus tour of the country with a friend. I got quite sick as I was heading to
Denver and the Stout Street Clinic took *very* good care of me and pushed
any effort to pay them away. I ended up sending them a check later as a
token of my appreciation - the truly went above and beyond. I had little
problem with the people I met, but the folks I was staying with at a youth
hostel used to play a game they called "porch television" where they would
count the gun shots as they watched the hookers and pimps and fights and
other happenings. I also stayed at a motel for a bit - and learned a
lesson: if the person showing you a room asks "Will this do", and you say
"yes" and they respond in a surprised way and as "Are you sure?", then no
matter how tired you are look closer at the room!

Overall I have *nothing* against Colorado nor its people - but as far as I
know *all* people from Colorado who post to CSMA are irrational, angry, and
perhaps delusional. There are many people - most even - who I have no idea
where they post from, so there clearly could be exceptions. Still, when
"different" people apparently from the same general area use similar
phrases, make the same bizarre and ignorant mistakes in logic, and otherwise
act in odd and similar ways it makes sense to consider the strong
possibility they are somehow connected by more than geography - a group of
people who know each other or even sock puppets.

--
Look, this is silly. It's not an argument, it's an armor plated walrus with
walnut paneling and an all leather interior.

"CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
[email protected] on 11/19/07 9:15 PM:

> Steve Carroll <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
>>
>> There's a perfectly good explanation for what you are seeing... you're
>> having another one of your delusions.
>>
>
> Snot's just sad because he can't enjoy the advantages in life that we do in
> Colorado. He wouldn't know how to act if he couldn't see the air around
> him.

I live in a city with - generally - quite clean air... though local forest
fires sometimes change that. Your attempt at humor, again, failed - you
simply did not base your "joke" on facts.


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Snit <[email protected]> wrote in
news:C367B24F.9A34E%[email protected]:

> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
> [email protected] on 11/19/07 9:15 PM:
>
>> Steve Carroll <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> There's a perfectly good explanation for what you are seeing...
>>> you're having another one of your delusions.
>>>
>>
>> Snot's just sad because he can't enjoy the advantages in life that we
>> do in Colorado. He wouldn't know how to act if he couldn't see the
>> air around him.
>
> I live in a city with - generally - quite clean air... though local
> forest fires sometimes change that. Your attempt at humor, again,
> failed - you simply did not base your "joke" on facts.
>
>

Since when did you allow facts to get in your way? And you are delusional
if you think that I look to you for approval, Snot.

In article <C367B24F.9A34E%[email protected]>,
Snit <[email protected]> wrote:

> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
> [email protected] on 11/19/07 9:15 PM:
>
> > Steve Carroll <[email protected]> wrote in
> > news:[email protected]:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> There's a perfectly good explanation for what you are seeing... you're
> >> having another one of your delusions.
> >>
> >
> > Snot's just sad because he can't enjoy the advantages in life that we do in
> > Colorado. He wouldn't know how to act if he couldn't see the air around
> > him.
>
> I live in a city with - generally - quite clean air... though local forest
> fires sometimes change that. Your attempt at humor, again, failed - you
> simply did not base your "joke" on facts.

He's probably aware there are lots of glue fumes around your immediate
vicinity. What's the visibility like through that stuff when your high
on it?

"CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
[email protected] on 11/19/07 9:39 PM:

> Snit <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:C367B24F.9A34E%[email protected]:
>
>> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
>> [email protected] on 11/19/07 9:15 PM:
>>
>>> Steve Carroll <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's a perfectly good explanation for what you are seeing...
>>>> you're having another one of your delusions.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Snot's just sad because he can't enjoy the advantages in life that we
>>> do in Colorado. He wouldn't know how to act if he couldn't see the
>>> air around him.
>>
>> I live in a city with - generally - quite clean air... though local
>> forest fires sometimes change that. Your attempt at humor, again,
>> failed - you simply did not base your "joke" on facts.
>
> Since when did you allow facts to get in your way? And you are delusional
> if you think that I look to you for approval, Snot.

And now you sink to more insults... trying to bury your claims without
supporting them. To re-focus you, if possible, here were your claims:

* Wikipedia is wrong about Apple technologies... but you are right.

* Apple is wrong about Apple technologies... but you are right.

* I am wrong about how to ***** my online name... but you are right.

* You can find a $700 laptop that does more than the Mac Oxford
pointed to.

So far you have failed to even try to support three of the four... and with
the forth you waved your white flag when you were asked to explain your view
(and hence offered no real support on that one, either).

And in response you will dodge again and offer not a single word of support
for your claims. Oh well, it is not as though you are not completely
predictable.

--
"If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
- Anatole France

Snit <[email protected]> wrote in
news:C367B455.9A361%[email protected]:

> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
> [email protected] on 11/19/07 9:39 PM:
>
>> Snit <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:C367B24F.9A34E%[email protected]:
>>
>>> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
>>> [email protected] on 11/19/07 9:15 PM:
>>>
>>>> Steve Carroll <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a perfectly good explanation for what you are seeing...
>>>>> you're having another one of your delusions.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Snot's just sad because he can't enjoy the advantages in life that
>>>> we do in Colorado. He wouldn't know how to act if he couldn't see
>>>> the air around him.
>>>
>>> I live in a city with - generally - quite clean air... though local
>>> forest fires sometimes change that. Your attempt at humor, again,
>>> failed - you simply did not base your "joke" on facts.
>>
>> Since when did you allow facts to get in your way? And you are
>> delusional if you think that I look to you for approval, Snot.
>
> And now you sink to more insults... trying to bury your claims without
> supporting them. To re-focus you, if possible, here were your claims:
>
<snip>

And when in doubt, you go back to the same old whine. The only one that
needs to be re-focused is you, Snot. However, from what I'm gathering, the
little bit that's left of your brain would make that a difficult task.