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  1. #1
    Thurman
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    Google does it again.

    Today they released a beta locator service that estimates your location from
    cell tower positions.

    The release claimed it will improve from use. First estimate was about a
    mile from my house, tested from inside w various electronic devices
    transmitting.

    Next test from living room was 2 blocks away. Test from outside was about
    100 yards off.

    It's a little tricky to fold your location into a search and routing, but
    doable.

    Download from previous Google Maps Mobile URL on your mobile device:

    http://www.google.com/gmm





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  2. #2
    Larry
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    Re: Google gives free locator based on cell tower

    "Thurman" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > It's a little tricky to fold your location into a search and

    routing,
    > but doable.
    >
    >


    Maemo Mapper running on a Nokia N800 tablet in its mount on the
    windshield with its Nokia 12-channel WAAS-compensated Bluetooth
    GPS on the dash...or in your pocket walking around...draws a
    trail down Google Satellite or Virtual Earth satellite pictures
    in the exact LANE you are driving in across the city.

    As the internet tablet is connected to EVDO SELLular downloading
    more sat photo squares in new areas, on-the-fly, I'm trying to
    get the open source developers to add code that will send your
    GPS data up to a webpage server much like we hams have had at
    findu.com on our APRS radio-to-internet system for many years, on
    command.

    When you turn it on, in my concept, anyone you authorize by
    giving them a username/password, to access your particular
    standard webpage, plus turning on the position transmission
    through the sellphone's internet connection would see you on a
    Google map or satellite photo in REALTIME, anywhere on the
    planet...with an accuracy of about 1 parking space on a satellite
    photo of any mall parking lot or walking down the street with the
    tablet and GPS in your pocket.

    GMM will get there, someday, but only with serious computing
    power in that PDA or smartphone. My MotoROKR is too stupid to
    connect to headphones and the tablet simultaneously. It's sure
    not going to be a major navigation device running stupid BREW.

    My concept would only require addition of a position reporting
    module to the Maemo Mapper Linux program already running, not
    exactly rocket science. Nokia has plenty of servers to support
    the webpage server.

    Larry
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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=698iql3B824
    Software is free....maps/sat photos are free.



  3. #3
    Jeffrey Kaplan
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    Re: Google gives free locator based on cell tower

    Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Thurman said:

    > Today they released a beta locator service that estimates your location from
    > cell tower positions.
    >
    > The release claimed it will improve from use. First estimate was about a
    > mile from my house, tested from inside w various electronic devices
    > transmitting.
    >
    > Next test from living room was 2 blocks away. Test from outside was about
    > 100 yards off.
    >
    > It's a little tricky to fold your location into a search and routing, but
    > doable.
    >
    > Download from previous Google Maps Mobile URL on your mobile device:
    >
    > http://www.google.com/gmm


    Neat. To bad it's not available for my Treo, despite what the download
    page said.

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  4. #4
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: Google gives free locator based on cell tower

    At 28 Nov 2007 22:34:41 -0600 Thurman wrote:
    > Google does it again.
    >
    > Today they released a beta locator service that estimates your location

    from
    > cell tower positions.
    >
    > The release claimed it will improve from use. First estimate was about a
    > mile from my house, tested from inside w various electronic devices
    > transmitting.
    >
    > Next test from living room was 2 blocks away. Test from outside was about
    > 100 yards off.
    >
    > It's a little tricky to fold your location into a search and routing, but
    > doable.
    >
    > Download from previous Google Maps Mobile URL on your mobile device:
    >
    > http://www.google.com/gmm


    Wow. Neat app. I generally extoll the virturs of Windows Live Search over
    GMM on WinMo devices due to WLS' new speech recognition features and tight
    integration with Pocket Outlook, but GMM raises the bar for non-GPS enabled
    phones.

    Gotta go- my first test, in my bedroom, placed me about 500 feet from my
    real position- gotta go outside and try again! ;-)




  5. #5
    Unquestionably Confused
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    Re: Google gives free locator based on cell tower

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Thurman said:
    >

    [snip]
    >> Download from previous Google Maps Mobile URL on your mobile device:
    >>
    >> http://www.google.com/gmm

    >
    > Neat. To bad it's not available for my Treo, despite what the download
    > page said.


    Amen! The maps work just fine but the "Press '0' to locate" is a
    non-starter on my Treo 650.

    Anyone figure out the trick to getting this to work on the Treo's?

    Ah well, remember, it's only the Beta version, maybe it's still a work
    in progress.

    In the meantime, enjoy the mapping and routing capabilities, they're
    pretty neat.



  6. #6
    Unquestionably Confused
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    Re: Google gives free locator based on cell tower

    Jeffrey Kaplan, wrote the following at or about 11/29/2007 11:16 AM:
    > Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Unquestionably Confused said:
    >
    >> Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    >>> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Thurman said:
    >>>

    >> [snip]
    >>>> Download from previous Google Maps Mobile URL on your mobile device:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.google.com/gmm
    >>> Neat. To bad it's not available for my Treo, despite what the download
    >>> page said.

    >> Amen! The maps work just fine but the "Press '0' to locate" is a
    >> non-starter on my Treo 650.

    >
    > By "not available despite...", I meant that it's not even the same
    > version. Check the version you just installed. The download page said
    > "version 2" for my Treo 680, but what I got was version 1.2.0.9.
    >
    >> Anyone figure out the trick to getting this to work on the Treo's?

    >
    > Not yet available for Palm.
    >



    "Ah, I see," said the blind man, as he picked up his hammer and saw.

    Well, as commented, it IS in beta. Can't help but think it'll be coming
    soon to a Treo near us<g>

    The mapping is pretty darn neat though.



  7. #7
    Jeffrey Kaplan
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    Re: Google gives free locator based on cell tower

    Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Unquestionably Confused said:

    > > Not yet available for Palm.

    > "Ah, I see," said the blind man, as he picked up his hammer and saw.
    >
    > Well, as commented, it IS in beta. Can't help but think it'll be coming
    > soon to a Treo near us<g>


    I certainly hope so. A real "where am I?" function is what I really,
    really wish my GPS could give me. Sounds strange, but it's true. My
    GPS (Garmin c330) is great for getting me from here to there, but it
    completely sucks at letting me know where "here" is! If I were to
    break down on the highway and I needed to call for a tow truck, all it
    would be able to tell me is that I'm on I-95.

    > The mapping is pretty darn neat though.


    Yep. Been using GMM for quite some time now. However, accuracy went
    down when they started using TeleAtlas maps for GMM instead of their
    former exclusive use of Navteq maps.

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  8. #8
    Jeffrey Kaplan
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    Re: Google gives free locator based on cell tower

    Previously on alt.cellular.attws, clifto said:

    > > completely sucks at letting me know where "here" is! If I were to
    > > break down on the highway and I needed to call for a tow truck, all it
    > > would be able to tell me is that I'm on I-95.

    >
    > That must be why someone else (Tom tom?) is advertising such a function on
    > television these days.


    That'd be my guess. Too bad TomTom uses map data that is less than
    accurate.

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  9. #9
    clifto
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    Re: Google gives free locator based on cell tower

    Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
    > Previously on alt.cellular.attws, clifto said:
    >> That must be why someone else (Tom tom?) is advertising such a function on
    >> television these days.

    >
    > That'd be my guess. Too bad TomTom uses map data that is less than
    > accurate.


    http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/20.14.html#subj1

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  10. #10
    Jeffrey Kaplan
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    Re: Google gives free locator based on cell tower

    Previously on alt.cellular.attws, clifto said:

    > http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/20.14.html#subj1


    Did you have a point other than showing that people can be stupid?

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    ceremonies until the site is verified.



  11. #11
    Jeffrey Kaplan
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    Re: Google gives free locator based on cell tower

    Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Thurman said:

    > Version on my 8525 is 2.0.0.11.
    >
    > Just in case, why not un-install V 1.2.09, then download again.
    >
    > V 2 was smart enough to uninstall V1 first but that might 'mo beta' than the
    > app.


    It's not yet available for the Palm.

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