Apple wins again! Vodafone loses in court.

Good news everyone, Vodafone loses iPhone court case...

They were so bitter they didn't win the iPhone contract that they tried
to take T-Mobile and Apple to court, but lost... Too Funny!

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Mobile provider Vodafone has failed to break up a deal giving rival
T-Mobile the exclusive rights to distribute Apple's iPhone in Germany.

A German court overturned a temporary injunction it granted two weeks
ago, which forced T-Mobile to sell iPhones that were not tied to a
single network.

Vodafone objected to the exclusivity agreement and said customers should
be able to choose between networks

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7127022.stm

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This continues to mean that if a cell company doesn't get a iPhone
contract their downfall will begin. Great! Just want everyone wanted!

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Another link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071204/...germany_iphone

T-Mobile can now sell only locked iPhones requiring 2 year contracts.

On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:33:34 -0700, O x f o r d
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Good news everyone, Vodafone loses iPhone court case...
>
>They were so bitter they didn't win the iPhone contract that they tried
>to take T-Mobile and Apple to court, but lost... Too Funny!
>
>----
>
>Mobile provider Vodafone has failed to break up a deal giving rival
>T-Mobile the exclusive rights to distribute Apple's iPhone in Germany.
>
>A German court overturned a temporary injunction it granted two weeks
>ago, which forced T-Mobile to sell iPhones that were not tied to a
>single network.
>
>Vodafone objected to the exclusivity agreement and said customers should
>be able to choose between networks
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7127022.stm
>
>-----
>
>This continues to mean that if a cell company doesn't get a iPhone
>contract their downfall will begin. Great! Just want everyone wanted!

On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 07:54:34 -0800 (PST), Edwin <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Dec 4, 9:33 am, O x f o r d <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Good news everyone, Vodafone loses iPhone court case...
>>
>> They were so bitter they didn't win the iPhone contract that they tried
>> to take T-Mobile and Apple to court, but lost... Too Funny!
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Mobile provider Vodafone has failed to break up a deal giving rival
>> T-Mobile the exclusive rights to distribute Apple's iPhone in Germany.
>>
>> A German court overturned a temporary injunction it granted two weeks
>> ago, which forced T-Mobile to sell iPhones that were not tied to a
>> single network.
>>
>> Vodafone objected to the exclusivity agreement and said customers should
>> be able to choose between networks
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7127022.stm
>>
>> -----
>>
>> This continues to mean that if a cell company doesn't get a iPhone
>> contract their downfall will begin. Great! Just want everyone wanted!
>
>When are the 2.5 billion mobile phones in the world going to be
>replaced by iPhones? I ask for information only.


Troill, no one ever said that was about to happen.

Ron <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7127022.stm
> >>
> >> -----
> >>
> >> This continues to mean that if a cell company doesn't get a iPhone
> >> contract their downfall will begin. Great! Just want everyone wanted!
> >
> >When are the 2.5 billion mobile phones in the world going to be
> >replaced by iPhones? I ask for information only.
>
> Troill, no one ever said that was about to happen.

correct, if apple only gets 30% of the cell phone market in the next 10
years, i think they and everyone will be happy.

In article
<[email protected]>,
Edwin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Dec 4, 9:33 am, O x f o r d <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Good news everyone, Vodafone loses iPhone court case...
> >
> > They were so bitter they didn't win the iPhone contract that they tried
> > to take T-Mobile and Apple to court, but lost... Too Funny!
> >
> > ----
> >
> > Mobile provider Vodafone has failed to break up a deal giving rival
> > T-Mobile the exclusive rights to distribute Apple's iPhone in Germany.
> >
> > A German court overturned a temporary injunction it granted two weeks
> > ago, which forced T-Mobile to sell iPhones that were not tied to a
> > single network.
> >
> > Vodafone objected to the exclusivity agreement and said customers should
> > be able to choose between networks
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7127022.stm
> >
> > -----
> >
> > This continues to mean that if a cell company doesn't get a iPhone
> > contract their downfall will begin. Great! Just want everyone wanted!
>
> When are the 2.5 billion mobile phones in the world going to be
> replaced by iPhones? I ask for information only.

Would you be jealous if that happened? I ask for information only.

--
Posted from my 1999 Apple G4 Sawtooth
A 450 MHz G4 running OS X 10.4.11

Adam Kesher <[email protected]> wrote:

> > If there were 1.38 million iPhones sold by Sept. 29, and the number
> > has only risen to "over 1.4 million" after all of October, and all of
> > November, the last two months of iPhone sales must have been very slow.
>
> Or, you're a moron who doesn't understand that your first reference
> was rounding up the 1.389 million number and your last source dropped
> a digit.

yes, all we know for sure is that around 2 million iPhones have been
sold so far, that number will jump to 5-9 million during the next 30
"Christmas" days which is always Apple's high point for iPod and now
iPhone sales. (add in the major success of the iPhone in Europe for
those numbers)

Apple will sell around 32 million iPods during this quarter, and 3-7
million of them will be iPhones. So it's going better than anyone
expected.

By the way, has anyone caught the extremely well done commercial by
Wal-Mart? that "exclusively" shows the iPod nano? And the happy child?

wow, "I didn't know Wal-Mart sold iPods" the mother says... what a great
gift by the Apple loving Walton family.

Thanks!

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At 04 Dec 2007 08:33:34 -0700 O x f o r d wrote:
> Good news everyone, Vodafone loses iPhone court case...

Good news for everyone except consumers, of course! ;-)


> They were so bitter they didn't win the iPhone contract that they tried
> to take T-Mobile and Apple to court, but lost... Too Funny!

Personaly, I think Apple and T-Mo have every right to engage in any legal
contract they wish to, but why are YOU so joyful? You're the anti-cellular
guy who thinks the iPhone is a port of iChat away from ending the cellular
indusrty. Shouldn't you be on the consumer's side instead of T-Mobile's
(or even Apple's in this case?)


> This continues to mean that if a cell company doesn't get a iPhone
> contract their downfall will begin. Great! Just want everyone wanted!

Actually, according to your prior posts, "everyone" wanted to use their
iPhones over Wi-Fi and cut cellphone companies out of the loop entirely.
How is forcing a 2-year contract with T-Mo helping "everybody" (except
Apple and maybe T-Mo?)

At 04 Dec 2007 09:39:14 -0800 Edwin wrote:

> > correct, if apple only gets 30% of the cell phone market in the next 10
> > years, i think they and everyone will be happy.
>
> How will that send every cell company without an iPhone contract to
> their downfall?

More importantly, how would Apple, or any other phone manufacturer, attain
such a market share with only cellular partner per country?

I don't doubt Apple can become a major player in the industry, but to do
it, they'll eventually have to decide whether they want to stay a VERY high-
margin niche player (a la Mac) or a highish-margin mass market juggernaut
(a la iPod.)

Each method has advantages and disadvantages.

Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote:

> > > correct, if apple only gets 30% of the cell phone market in the next 10
> > > years, i think they and everyone will be happy.
> >
> > How will that send every cell company without an iPhone contract to
> > their downfall?
>
> More importantly, how would Apple, or any other phone manufacturer, attain
> such a market share with only cellular partner per country?

the carrier can be one single distribution point. apple is only choosing
the ones with the strongest futures if you have noticed.

what your comment omits is the widening the "iphone channel" since apple
is the first company to perfect "activation" through a massively used
application, "iTunes". other cell companies can't do this, so they have
to rely on retail locations, apple does not. currently apple has about
22 distribution points worldwide for the iphone. the ipod has over
44,000, so the writing is on the wall that once apple has all the
carriers correctly in place... they can massively drive up unit sales
with 8-14 new models that clear out the rest of the handset makers.

> I don't doubt Apple can become a major player in the industry, but to do
> it, they'll eventually have to decide whether they want to stay a VERY high-
> margin niche player (a la Mac) or a highish-margin mass market juggernaut
> (a la iPod.)
>
> Each method has advantages and disadvantages.

yes, but that's just the way apple works, they wait, wait, build great
products during the early stages, perfect their reputation and bring in
strong partners and THEN EXPAND... it's a tricky way to do it, but no
other cell player has the depth to pull something like this off.

companies like Verizon will be a fraction of their size in 10 years.
they just weren't skillful enough to understand the massive impact the
iPhone would have on their business.