Re: HOT: More Details - iPhone a "fully-fledged business tool".

On Dec 19, 6:36 am, 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From ZDnet
>
> Avaya has released software which it claims will turn Apple's iPhone
> handset into a "fully-fledged business tool".
>
> The one-X Mobile client software, due for release in Europe in the
> first quarter of next year, is designed to integrate the largely
> consumer-centric device into "most enterprise IP telecommunications
> networks", Avaya claimed in a statement on Tuesday.
>
> The software will allow the use of a single number for both mobile and
> desk-based communications, by routing calls through the corporate
> network.
>
> Avaya already has software to enable the integration of a variety of
> popular handsets, but this is the first time it has targeted the
> iPhone. The company claims that the one-X Mobile interface will give
> users functionality such as multi-party conference calling, call
> transfer and call screening.
>
> Some enterprise applications have been made available for use with the
> iPhone, but several issues remain for those who wish to use Apple's
> handset in the workplace. Gartner has warned against such deployment
> due to security and compatibility concerns, and O2 -- the exclusive
> network operator for the iPhone in the UK -- has admitted that IT
> managers may be loath to allow work numbers to be ported over to the
> iPhone as it is only available on consumer tariffs.

From Independent News and Media Limited
http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...cle3263623.ece

iPhone boosted by Avaya download
By Nic Fildes
Published: 19 December 2007
Apple's iPhone, which looks like being one of the hottest stocking
fillers this Christmas, is set to gain a business edge after Avaya,
the mobile phone software developer, unveiled a new download that
makes the device compatible with most corporate telephone networks.

Consumers paying £270 for an iPhone over Christmas probably will have
not bothered thinking too hard about whether it will connect to the
network used at their work-place. However, for staff at a business
that has installed a virtual private network - or VPN - to cut its
telecoms budget, the new software will mean they do not have to carry
around a separate phone for the work-place any more.

The new software - dubbed one-X Mobile - will be available in the UK
in the first quarter of 2008. The software will also work on other
devices from a long list of manufacturers including Nokia, Motorola,
Sony Ericsson and Samsung. Avaya's software will effectively turn the
iPhone into a desktop phone, enabling conference calling, call
transfer and short-code dialling from the handset.

More than 70 per cent of companies have some form of wireless network
within the office. VPNs allow organisations to dispense with old-
fashioned fixed-line phones by putting all the functionality on to a
mobile handset. Calls made within the office are charged at fixed-line
rates, reverting to normal mobile tariffs when the worker leaves the
premises. While some networks require telecoms companies to provide
appropriate handsets for this service, Avaya's software lets the
consumer's own handset be used as an office phone.

At 19 Dec 2007 03:43:45 -0800 4phun wrote:

> From Independent News and Media Limited
> http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...cle3263623.ece
>
> iPhone boosted by Avaya download
> By Nic Fildes
> Published: 19 December 2007
> Apple's iPhone, which looks like being one of the hottest stocking
> fillers this Christmas, is set to gain a business edge after Avaya,
> the mobile phone software developer, unveiled a new download that
> makes the device compatible with most corporate telephone networks.


"Download"? "Business edge?" God, I hate sloppy reporting!

http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news...le.php/3710486

"The software is based on the Wireless Application Protocol (define) (WAP)
and runs through the iPhone's Safari browser."

So much for "download..."

"It is also available for RIM and Palm devices, as well as mobile phone
architectures that support Java."

So much for "business edge" since it'll be available for virtually every
phone on the planet, smart, dumb or otherwise.

So basically it's a WAP portal that will work on any WAP phone with or
without Java. More news that sticks "iPhone" in the PR so someone will
bother to read it. I swear if Coca-Cola releases a new flavor tomorrow
they'll claim it's "iPhone compatible"!


> Calls made within the office are charged at fixed-line
> rates, reverting to normal mobile tariffs when the worker leaves the
> premises.

With true VoIP solutions, yes, but this will be more of a smoke-and-mirrors
call forwarding scheme that uses the phone's cellular minutes, I suspect
(not that there's anything wrong with that- this way, you simulate the VoIP
functionality without the risk of allowing a bunch of unsecured devices on
the VPN.)

> While some networks require telecoms companies to provide
> appropriate handsets for this service, Avaya's software lets the
> consumer's own handset be used as an office phone.

At the consumers expense, of course! ;-)

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:fkbj3a$q6j$2
@aioe.org:

> At the consumers expense, of course! ;-)
>
>

Isn't that the whole point of iPhone and iPods?

Larry
--
QUOTE OF THE MONTH:
"I have been to several major Chinese cities and have seen first hand shops
crammed with obviously fake American products." - Jon Dudas, Undersecretary
of Commerce for Intellectual Property Rights.

How can they be fake? The Chinese make all "American Products" I use!

In article <Xns9A0BE0C5F6FD3noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> > At the consumers expense, of course! ;-)
> >
> >
>
> Isn't that the whole point of iPhone and iPods?

iPods? Where the **** did you get that idea?

Just how does an iPod create more consumer expense?

Ray Goldenberg <ray@lighthousetravel.com> wrote in news:ray-
91A9C7.06285920122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com:

> Just how does an iPod create more consumer expense?
>

Damn you ARE stupid. iTunes.....SELL, SELL, SELL!



Larry
--
QUOTE OF THE MONTH:
"I have been to several major Chinese cities and have seen first hand shops
crammed with obviously fake American products." - Jon Dudas, Undersecretary
of Commerce for Intellectual Property Rights.

How can they be fake? The Chinese make all "American Products" I use!

In article <elmop-61CBC3.20242620122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> In article <Xns9A0C5AC514DBCnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> > Ray Goldenberg <ray@lighthousetravel.com> wrote in news:ray-
> > 91A9C7.06285920122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com:
> >
> > > Just how does an iPod create more consumer expense?
> > >
> >
> > Damn you ARE stupid. iTunes.....SELL, SELL, SELL!
>
> iTunes--RIP, RIP, RIP your own CDs!
>
> There is exactly zero requirement for iTunes users to buy anything from
> the iTunes music store.
>
> So, I repeat: how does an iPod create more consumer expense?

Given the audio quality of downloaded music, CDs, for about the same
price (If you buy music, like I do) is a far better value. Besides the
superior sound quality, you own the CD and can play it anywhere you wish.

Unfortunately, where many of us lived for audio quality, many today
really can't tell the difference because they don't know that there is
one.

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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
61CBC3.20242620122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com:

> So, I repeat: how does an iPod create more consumer expense?
>
>

Ipods are wonderful. Just copy the files to them with any file manager and
it plays them, no matter whether they are MP3, OGG, WAV, MP2, MP1, RM, AVI,
DivX 1/2/3/4/5/6, BIN, files copied off a DVD.....any format, any where,
any size.

You don't need any kind of special software to copy playable files to an
Apple product. It's wonderful and so cheap!

It will also run programs written in any MS-DOS, Linux, CP/M, any machine
code from 4-bit to 64-bit from any manufacturer, OS
1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/X/Y/Z, Fortran, COBOL, Pearl or any mainframe OS from
1976 on!

Bull****....


Larry
--
QUOTE OF THE MONTH:
"I have been to several major Chinese cities and have seen first hand shops
crammed with obviously fake American products." - Jon Dudas, Undersecretary
of Commerce for Intellectual Property Rights.

How can they be fake? The Chinese make all "American Products" I use!

Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-5A67B7.19003720122007
@news.giganews.com:

> Given the audio quality of downloaded music, CDs, for about the same
> price (If you buy music, like I do) is a far better value. Besides the
> superior sound quality, you own the CD and can play it anywhere you wish.
>
>

How can a 1-bit CD sampled at only 44.1Kbps have "sound quality"? That's
just not true of CDs...ANY CDs. All music produced and sold is now
corrupt. Of course, most of the **** played on an iPod by adoring fans,
any distortion only ADDS to the "musical experience" of being in a back
alley with a bunch of animals screaming obscenities at each other in
between gang fights, right?

For that...CDs are a blessing!

Larry
--
You boys are in for a terrible shock! Go find an audiologist and have
him/her do a proper scan of YOUR audio bandwidth! The average human looks
like:
http://www.audioholics.com/education...human-hearing-
amplitude-sensitivity-part-1
Check out all the parts this is part 1 of.

Human hearing really SUCKS. Notice the db scale....not 1 or 2 db....50-60-
70 db!

Larry wrote:
> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in
> news:labolide-5A67B7.19003720122007 @news.giganews.com:
>
>> Given the audio quality of downloaded music, CDs, for about the same
>> price (If you buy music, like I do) is a far better value. Besides
>> the superior sound quality, you own the CD and can play it anywhere
>> you wish.
>>
>>
>
> How can a 1-bit CD sampled at only 44.1Kbps have "sound quality"?

CDs "1-bit?"

You are losing it, dude...



--
Mike




> That's just not true of CDs...ANY CDs. All music produced and sold
> is now corrupt. Of course, most of the **** played on an iPod by
> adoring fans, any distortion only ADDS to the "musical experience" of
> being in a back alley with a bunch of animals screaming obscenities
> at each other in between gang fights, right?
>
> For that...CDs are a blessing!
>
> Larry

In article <5t184nF1bgelcU1@mid.individual.net>, "Tinman" <ask@for.it>
wrote:

> Larry wrote:
> > Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in
> > news:labolide-5A67B7.19003720122007 @news.giganews.com:
> >
> >> Given the audio quality of downloaded music, CDs, for about the same
> >> price (If you buy music, like I do) is a far better value. Besides
> >> the superior sound quality, you own the CD and can play it anywhere
> >> you wish.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > How can a 1-bit CD sampled at only 44.1Kbps have "sound quality"?
>
> CDs "1-bit?"
>
> You are losing it, dude...

"Losing" it? Larry the tinfoil hatted nutcase ALREADY lost it. Long
ago.

Or maybe never had it.

In article <Xns9A0D49977E06noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-5A67B7.19003720122007
> @news.giganews.com:
>
> > Given the audio quality of downloaded music, CDs, for about the same
> > price (If you buy music, like I do) is a far better value. Besides the
> > superior sound quality, you own the CD and can play it anywhere you wish.
> >
> >
>
> How can a 1-bit CD sampled at only 44.1Kbps have "sound quality"? That's
> just not true of CDs...ANY CDs. All music produced and sold is now
> corrupt. Of course, most of the **** played on an iPod by adoring fans,
> any distortion only ADDS to the "musical experience" of being in a back
> alley with a bunch of animals screaming obscenities at each other in
> between gang fights, right?
>
> For that...CDs are a blessing!
>
> Larry

Hey, I still have all my albums, and an expensive cartridge with a good
turntable.
Without arguing the fine points, CD is still better than download.

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