iPhone vs freqs & protocols

with all the chatter about iPhone and some lost revenuing sharing
due to unlocked phones being used on other carriers besides ATT
I was wondering ----

What frequency spectrum & air interface protocol does the iPhone utilize
that matches up with other potential carriers ?


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P.Schuman wrote:
> with all the chatter about iPhone and some lost revenuing sharing
> due to unlocked phones being used on other carriers besides ATT
> I was wondering ----
>
> What frequency spectrum & air interface protocol does the iPhone
> utilize that matches up with other potential carriers ?

It's a standard GSM four-band (world) phone. Ergo, it operates on 850, 900,
1800, and 1900 MHz.


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"P.Schuman" <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote in
news4_xj.5355$Mh2.4235@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:

> Tinman wrote:
>> P.Schuman wrote:
>>> with all the chatter about iPhone and some lost revenuing sharing
>>> due to unlocked phones being used on other carriers besides ATT
>>> I was wondering ----
>>>
>>> What frequency spectrum & air interface protocol does the iPhone
>>> utilize that matches up with other potential carriers ?
>>
>> It's a standard GSM four-band (world) phone. Ergo, it operates on
>> 850, 900, 1800, and 1900 MHz.
>>
>
> SO... for domestic US users, the choice would only be ATT (gsm) or
> T-Mobile (gsm)
> while the global (gsm) market would offer more choices...
>
> Just curious, as some of the financial chatter about AT&T and Apple
> have indicated that Apple would loose a lot of revenue if these phones
> appear on other carriers - and then Apple would not receive their ATT
> shared revenue.
> ie - the "sold" numbers from Apple vs the "activated" numbers from ATT
> indicate a disconnect and therefore the delta is the "unlocked" world.
>
>

iPhone only uses EDGE, not 3G, for internet, so that would limit its use
and attractiveness in most other places, like Europe for instance, where
users are used to the much higher speeds of 3G broadband, instead of just-
a-little-faster-than-dialup of EDGE. It'll work on the GSM as a sellphone,
but not on 3G as a high speed internet device...........yet.

That's why it doesn't sell well in European markets, cracked or
uncracked....besides being hobbled, of course, into a WebTV device.

Tinman wrote:
> P.Schuman wrote:
>> with all the chatter about iPhone and some lost revenuing sharing
>> due to unlocked phones being used on other carriers besides ATT
>> I was wondering ----
>>
>> What frequency spectrum & air interface protocol does the iPhone
>> utilize that matches up with other potential carriers ?
>
> It's a standard GSM four-band (world) phone. Ergo, it operates on
> 850, 900, 1800, and 1900 MHz.
>

SO... for domestic US users, the choice would only be ATT (gsm) or T-Mobile
(gsm)
while the global (gsm) market would offer more choices...

Just curious, as some of the financial chatter about AT&T and Apple
have indicated that Apple would loose a lot of revenue if these phones
appear on other carriers - and then Apple would not receive their ATT shared
revenue.
ie - the "sold" numbers from Apple vs the "activated" numbers from ATT
indicate a disconnect and therefore the delta is the "unlocked" world.

On 2008-02-29, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> iPhone only uses EDGE, not 3G, for internet, so that would limit its use
> and attractiveness in most other places, like Europe for instance, where
> users are used to the much higher speeds of 3G broadband, instead of just-
> a-little-faster-than-dialup of EDGE. It'll work on the GSM as a sellphone,
> but not on 3G as a high speed internet device...........yet.
>
> That's why it doesn't sell well in European markets, cracked or
> uncracked....besides being hobbled, of course, into a WebTV device.

That also might have something to do with why it seems to sell
so fantastically well in China, where Edge is currently as good
as it gets. If China Mobile's numbers can be trusted there are more
hacked iPhones in use in China than there are unhacked iPhones signed
up for service in the European countries where it is available.

Dennis Ferguson

Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:slrnfsgss7.7q.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:

> On 2008-02-29, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>> iPhone only uses EDGE, not 3G, for internet, so that would limit its
>> use and attractiveness in most other places, like Europe for
>> instance, where users are used to the much higher speeds of 3G
>> broadband, instead of just- a-little-faster-than-dialup of EDGE.
>> It'll work on the GSM as a sellphone, but not on 3G as a high speed
>> internet device...........yet.
>>
>> That's why it doesn't sell well in European markets, cracked or
>> uncracked....besides being hobbled, of course, into a WebTV device.
>
> That also might have something to do with why it seems to sell
> so fantastically well in China, where Edge is currently as good
> as it gets. If China Mobile's numbers can be trusted there are more
> hacked iPhones in use in China than there are unhacked iPhones signed
> up for service in the European countries where it is available.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
>

I'd believe that. Chinese hackers are some of the finest in the world. If
you had to watch Communist TV, you'd be coding, too!....(c;

In <94tgs3p8vghpfaabjc6rnsn70vhu5u88kc@4ax.com> The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> writes:

>On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:39:44 -0600, "P.Schuman"
><pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:

>>SO... for domestic US users, the choice would only be ATT (gsm) or T-Mobile
>>(gsm)

>Or Suncom.

Or Dobson. Or Constoga.

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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, danny burstein posted:
>>> SO... for domestic US users, the choice would only be ATT (gsm) or T-Mobile
>>> (gsm)
>> Or Suncom.
> Or Dobson. Or Constoga.

Dobson is now part of ATT.

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Mark Crispin wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, danny burstein posted:
>>>> SO... for domestic US users, the choice would only be ATT (gsm) or
>>>> T-Mobile
>>>> (gsm)
>>> Or Suncom.
>> Or Dobson. Or Constoga.
>
> Dobson is now part of ATT.
>
or Advantage, or Aradigm or Alaska Wireless or Alltel or CellularOne or
ANW or Arctic Slope Cooperative or CT Cube or Caprock Celluar or
Centennial or West Central Wireless or Chariton Valley or Amerilink or
Cincinnati Bell or Coleman or Commnet or Concho or Convoy or Cordova or
Corr or MBO or BigFoot or ...

depending on where you live and work, you could have allotta choices!
Regards

Gordon Huff wrote:
> Mark Crispin wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, danny burstein posted:
>>>>> SO... for domestic US users, the choice would only be ATT (gsm) or
>>>>> T-Mobile
>>>>> (gsm)
>>>> Or Suncom.
>>> Or Dobson. Or Constoga.
>>
>> Dobson is now part of ATT.
>>
> or Advantage, or Aradigm or Alaska Wireless or Alltel or CellularOne
> or ANW or Arctic Slope Cooperative or CT Cube or Caprock Celluar or
> Centennial or West Central Wireless or Chariton Valley or Amerilink or
> Cincinnati Bell or Coleman or Commnet or Concho or Convoy or Cordova
> or Corr or MBO or BigFoot or ...
>
> depending on where you live and work, you could have allotta choices!
> Regards

Yeah, I guess -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...hone_companies
Was originally thinking of just the major players...
Wonder if the registered ESN has any "company" related info, like an
Ethernet MAC ?