pple will sell 45 million iPhones in 2009

On Apr 3, 7:47 pm, 4phun <[email protected]> wrote:
> Could Apple sell 45 million iPhones a year?
> Tuesday, April 01, 2008, 4:36:20 PM
> Today the web is alight with speculation as to how Apple will sell 45
> million iPhones in 2009.
>
> More and more people are discovering the iPhone is a killer must have
> gadget that is matched by absolutely no other smart phone.

I have found more details about how Apple may sell 45 million in
2009.

Cheaper iPhone pictured?
http://altmedia.macobserver.com/tmo_...iphoneback.png

Apple may introduce three distinct iPhones within twelve months. One
of these will be an ultra cheap 8GB iPhone for the low end mass
market with a plastic case. A enterprise suitable 3G phone and a
larger size high end iPhone which may be the rumored Apple UMPC/
Tablet.

http://www.phonemag.com/analyst-3g-i...009-032071.php

All in all Apple will become best known no longer for the iPod but the
iPhone which will be for everyone the must have gadget.

iPhone price cuts as volume builds, T-Mobile has cut their price on
the iPhone to $155 in Europe with a new plan subscription.

Another anaylis indicates the current iPhone shortage is simply due to
incredible global demand building for the current model.

The best quote I have seen this morning about those who hate the Apple
iPhone is from Phone Magazine which writes they should "pick up a
Windows Mobile smartphone; only problem is, the GUI is a pile of
stewed dung compared to the slick interface Apple crafted for the
iPhone."

;>)

http://www.phonemag.com/vito-re-skin...nce-042257.php

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Anybody wrote:

> Not going to happen. Apple doesn't really produce multi-models of
> products in this way.

It's going to have to happen to sell 45 million units. They will have to
have a low-end, inexpensive model for the masses (perhaps still only
2G), a more fully featured model for those that are willing to pay for
things like more memory, a GPS, etc, and perhaps an enterprise model
designed to compete with the Blackberry and other enterprise phones,
hopefully with a real keyboard and support for Office documents. This is
good marketing to change the consumers perspective to "which iPhone do
you want?," rather that making it an iPhone versus other phone decision.

In the U.S. they will have to move away from the sales model of not
subsidizing the phone purchase by requiring a 2 year contract (in other
iPhone countries this is already the case), back to a traditional sales
model.

Their sales problems with the current model are because it's too
expensive for a 2G device, it can't be used by large businesses (in fact
many forbid its use because of security issues), and it lacks some
essential handset features such as voice dialing. These are all issues
that can be solved, in their effort to move the iPhone from a geek
device into the general population.

I know four people with iPhones, but three of them using them without 2G
data, and didn't activate them on AT&T (the fourth is an Apple employee
that does use AT&T). They had them unlocked for around $35 and use them
as a world phone when traveling using a prepaid SIM card (international
or country specific), and a web access device, on Wi-Fi, in the U.S..
When in the U.S. they don't use it as a phone because they aren't
willing to give up Verizon's coverage (no wonder Apple approached
Verizon with the iPhone first!). As a quad-band world-phone, music
player, and web pad, the iPhone is not expensive. It's only when
compared against more fully featured, and more expensive PDA phones that
it falls short.

SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:47f6ef52$0$36409
[email protected]:

> It's a web pad with a phone and music player.
>

Best description of the year!

Congrats....(c;

SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:47f77562$0$36382
[email protected]:

> it can't be used by large businesses (in fact
> many forbid its use because of security issues), and it lacks some
> essential handset features such as voice dialing.

The simply fact it has a camera will keep it out of most businesses, where
cameras and camera phones are forbidden for security reasons.

Blackberrys don't have cameras for a reason, same as PDAs.....enterprise
restrictions.

iPhone will never be an enterprise device until Apple lets the IT
department, not Apple, have control of the device so they can turn the
camera off permanently and control what features and webpages the device
will access. No IT control means they simply won't buy it.....ever

Larry wrote:
> SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:47f6ef52$0$36409
> [email protected]:
>
>
>> It's a web pad with a phone and music player.
>>
>
>
> Best description of the year!
>
> Congrats....(c;
>


Expensive drinks coaster.

Xaviar Underwood <[email protected]> wrote in newsxww-E196DF.19040004042008
@news.giganews.com:

> With the exception of the two Nokia trolls that post in here I have
> never met a dissatisfied iPhone customer anywhere. All have nothing but
>

You must live in a vacuum bottle!

4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:c7aff1e8-8837-4a30-b64e-
[email protected]:

> I have found more details about how Apple may sell 45 million in
> 2009.
>

Nokia just announced they have 40% of the sellphone market. Samsung is 2nd
with around 20%, way behind....

How many phones is that, 40.1%??

At 05 Apr 2008 03:31:53 -0700 4phun wrote:

> The best quote I have seen this morning about those who hate the Apple
> iPhone is from Phone Magazine which writes they should "pick up a
> Windows Mobile smartphone; only problem is, the GUI is a pile of
> stewed dung compared to the slick interface Apple crafted for the
> iPhone."
>
> ;>)


I won't argue with that. My problem with the iPhone is that the device
under the "elegant interface" is less capable than many other smartphones.

Good first effort, though. Apple will get there eventually.

At 04 Apr 2008 19:04:00 -0400 Xaviar Underwood wrote:
> 4phun <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Face it the iPhone is one slick compact internet tablet that slips
> > into any pocket that also happens to be a cell phone. I wish I had
> > bought one the day they came out instead of waiting. It has made that
> > much of a difference in my daily life.
>
> I think that is the hardest point to get across to the two or three "non
> believers" in this group. The iPhone is life changing.


Which looks nice on the brochures, Oxford, but exactly HOW is it "life
changing?" Because you can browse the web, do e-mail and play music from a
portable device? My Dell Axim X5 bought in 2002 in conjunction with my
first bluetooth phone was "life changing" in that respect. (While I had
devices with that capability even earlier, going back to a Casio E-100 and
Nokia 7160 in 2000, they relied on infrared and a slow 14.4k data network-
too cumbersome to use unless it was "important." The Dell and BT Nokia
combo was when I first really had true data mobility.)


> With the exception of the two Nokia trolls that post in here I have
> never met a dissatisfied iPhone customer anywhere.


I'm not surprised- it's a slick device that does a few things really well.

> All have nothing but
> raves about this revolutionary product.

You mean "evolutionary." It might be slicker and cuter, but there's still
nothing it can do that Treos didn't do _years_ earlier. That's why
"evolutionary" applies.

> It is not surprising that the
> statistics you posted bear that fact out. Keep up the good work 4phun.

My favorite statistics were the number of iPhone owners that carried a
second phone for phone calls and _e-mail!_, and the significant number who
wanted to see a QWERTY keyboard and/or a 12-key dial pad on the next model.

Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 05 Apr 2008 03:31:53 -0700 4phun wrote:
>
>> The best quote I have seen this morning about those who hate the Apple
>> iPhone is from Phone Magazine which writes they should "pick up a
>> Windows Mobile smartphone; only problem is, the GUI is a pile of
>> stewed dung compared to the slick interface Apple crafted for the
>> iPhone."
>>
>> ;>)
>
>
> I won't argue with that. My problem with the iPhone is that the device
> under the "elegant interface" is less capable than many other smartphones.
>
> Good first effort, though. Apple will get there eventually.

I agree. Those that write off Apple simply because the first iPhone
wasn't as good as come devices from more experienced companies in the
mobile phone business do so at their own peril. Apple has the marketing
and manufacturing capability to make the iPhone a big seller, and they
will certainly address the issue of capability with the future models.

Todd Allcock wrote:

> My favorite statistics were the number of iPhone owners that carried a
> second phone for phone calls and _e-mail!_, and the significant number who
> wanted to see a QWERTY keyboard and/or a 12-key dial pad on the next model.

Ultimately, that's why I decided to pass on this version. I needed a new
quad band phone for traveling (which I realized on my last trip to
Taiwan when they tried to send me a text message with my password and I
had to go to the phone company's office and explain that my world phone
was so old that I couldn't receive text messages).

Instead of buying an iPhone for $400, and having it unlocked for $35, I
bought a cheap quad-band prepaid phone from T-Mobile and I'm paying $15
to have it unlocked. With the iPhone I still would have needed to carry
a notebook (or in my case a tablet PC) because the iPhone isn't well
suited for e-mail, and because it can't open Word and Excel documents.

My old Toshiba E755 is actually much better than the iPhone for
traveling, since it has WiFi, you can attach a keyboard, it can be used
as a GPS by sticking in a CompactFlash GPS card, and it can transfer
photos via the SD and CF slots. However it's a lousy MP3 player since it
wasn't designed for that.

I would have liked one of the HTC smart phones, but the one I wanted was
$700 at Costco (unlocked) which I could just not justify to myself.

I'm certain Apple will soon solve all the issues that have many buyers
waiting.

In article <[email protected]>, Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:

> SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:47f6ef52$0$36409
> [email protected]:
>
> > It's a web pad with a phone and music player.
>
> Best description of the year!
>
> Congrats....(c;

The iPhone is and always has been a video iPod with phone and web
abilities.

In article <[email protected]>, SMS
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Anybody wrote:
>
> > Not going to happen. Apple doesn't really produce multi-models of
> > products in this way.
>
> It's going to have to happen to sell 45 million units. They will have
> to have a low-end, inexpensive model for the masses (perhaps still only
> 2G), a more fully featured model for those that are willing to pay for
> things like more memory, a GPS, etc, and perhaps an enterprise model
> designed to compete with the Blackberry and other enterprise phones,
> hopefully with a real keyboard and support for Office documents. This is
> good marketing to change the consumers perspective to "which iPhone do
> you want?," rather that making it an iPhone versus other phone decision.

Again, it ain't gonna happen, especially at this early stage of the
product line.

Apple simply doesn't have convulted product lines. They have VERY
simple product liens with little room for confusing the buyers.

The iMac ships in three basic models - the only difference being the
screen size and minor increments in hard drive space and chip speed.
The other Mac models have similarly tight strucutre.

The traditional iPod ships in three basic models (Shuffle, Nano,
"Classic"), the only difference being memory size and colour. The iPod
Touch ships in one basic model, with again memory size being the only
difference.

Apple's "iPhone" will stay more or less as it is now, the only real
change will be "2.5G" to "3G". They might add GPS, they might upgrade
the camera, etc. to the next model, but those changes will be across
the range. They may keep a "2.5G" model for countries that don't have
3G, but other than that the only difference between currently shipping
models will be the memory size.

You *might* get an "iPhone Nano" at some stage, but that's at least a
couple of years away yet.

It's EXTREMELY unlikely that Apple will ever make an iPhone with a real
keyboard (more likely a third party will make an add-on keyboard).

Microsloth is already looking at iPhone software.


Besides, Apple could sell "45 million units" of garlic-floured chewing
gum simply by sticking their logo on it and having a slick packaging
and advertising campaign. :-)

At 05 Apr 2008 17:16:22 -0700 SMS wrote:

> My old Toshiba E755 is actually much better than the iPhone for traveling,
> since it has WiFi, you can attach a keyboard, it can be used as a GPS by
> sticking in a CompactFlash GPS card, and it can transfer photos via the
> SD and CF slots. However it's a lousy MP3 player since it wasn't
> designed for that.


What makes it "lousy?" There are a number of good media players for that
platform that add much-needed features (like EQ, Divx support, etc.) I use
TCPMP.

> I would have liked one of the HTC smart phones, but the one I wanted
> was $700 at Costco (unlocked) which I could just not justifyo myself.


Yeah, I' m holding off for a subsidized T-Mo branded Tilt/Kaiser, or else
I'll probably jump to Sprint SERO and a Mogul, keeping my MDA/Wizard as a
backup for overseas use.


> I'm certain Apple will soon solve all the issues that have many buyers
waiting.

We'll see. I think Apple will still favor simplicity over features, so who
knows what'll be "too complicated" to be included.

In article <[email protected]>, Todd Allcock
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >At 05 Apr 2008 17:16:22 -0700 SMS wrote:

> > I'm certain Apple will soon solve all the issues that have many buyers
> >waiting.
>
> We'll see. I think Apple will still favor simplicity over features, so who
> knows what'll be "too complicated" to be included.

No one will ever solve all issues on any product. When the 3G iPhone
comes out Apple will have solved the issue that has kept me from buying
(I can foresee one issue that might stop me, if it is priced at a
premium) but I am sure there will be issues that won't be solved, and
they could be deal breakers for some buyers. There is no perfect
product.

--
Charles