Todd Allcock

At 17 Apr 2008 05:24:38 -0700 SMS wrote:
> Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> > I believe Larry is now selling N800s door-to-door... ;-)
>
> Yes, he was here yesterday.
>
> I think I'd go with the Asus Eee PC if I have to have two devices anyway.


I bought one a few weeks ago on sale from Buy.com- the 4GB version, and
after 15 minutes with it, installed XP over the included Linux distro.
(Asus made a virtual 800x600 driver for XP, whereas Linux was stuck at the
device's native 800x480.) VoIP works smoothly on it, even using the built-
in speakers and mic, and it's surprisingly snappy even on XP, despite it's
paltry 512k RAM and 900MHz processor supposedly underclocked to 600 to save
battery and waste heat (it gets warmer on my lap than either of my "real"
laptops!)

But despite it's faults (small display, terrible keyboard- not just because
it's cramped, but because some keys are bewilderingly placed, and the
spacebar only registers a "hit" if struck in the center) it's small enough
that it'll be my travel laptop of choice. I'll just remote in to my real
PC via LogMeIn.com.

 

Todd Allcock

At 17 Apr 2008 08:52:23 -0400 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> It took someone ELSE to tell you that helicopter parenting is bad?
>
> Jesus. You didn't grow up with that, did you? So why would you even
> think about doing it to your own kids?


In Steven's defence, as a parent of three kids 10 and younger, we're
products of our times. Try being a "low key" parent by today's standards
and you're regarded as an unfit mutant freak, who should have their kids
taken away by the state!

I'm certainly low-key compared to my kids' friends' parents, but still
waaaay too involved compared to my own. But I'm working on it...

Larry

Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-
1767F9.17273517042008@news.giganews.com:

> Seems like kids today are allowed the play and discovery that kids had
> when I grew up.
> We ate dirt (so we have great immune systems). Weren't driven
everywhere
> - we had bikes or walked to school. We also bonded with our friends
more
> after school.
> Parents today have peer pressure to overprotect their kids.
> Kids have no easy way of learning their boundaries today. (We got
> whooped when we overstepped)
> Bad time to be a kid.
>
>

I don't think it's any different, now, than when I was a kid in the
1950's. They just didn't talk about all the nasty stuff that went on in
1950. Now, the propaganda machine's job is to push it 24/7. All men
are evil. They do evil things. Today's kids are told that from
kindergarten.

Our other problem is this really scary slide back into religious
control. We don't notice it, as long as we stay home. But, American
tourists going to europe are just horrified that (put your EU country
here) is a den of iniquity, promiscuous sex, why they even let little
kids run around naked on the beach! Americans are religiously
indoctrinated prudes, by comparison.

The resurgence of religious isolation to the family sect is also very
scary as it breeds hatred and contempt into the impressionable children
before the age of reason. This sect's kids learn to hate and dispise
this other sect's kids LONG before they can have at each other, Middle
East Style, in the religious murders. Hell, there's Jews in England who
were born and raised there in total isolation that don't even speak
English so you can understand it. Walled in, any child is simply
assimilated into whatever enclave he is enslaved to......and will
believe anything the elders tell him, even murder.

I grew up in Moravia, NY in the Owasco Lake Valley. Google Earth it,
the whole place is in high resolution. It was a fantastic place to be
raised in a small upstate NY town where everyone knew everyone and
everyone else's business. By the time I was 10, my father simply said,
"Be home at a reasonable hour.", and I left him to his TV addiction.
Getting in trouble meant getting caught smoking by one of the town
biddies or a school teacher. The really nasty kids strung toilet paper
in the trees. Lots of kids had guns in school because we all went
hunting right after school before the sun went down! Finding shotguns
in lockers was OK. Finding CIGARETTES in lockers got you SUSPENDED! I
believe we could have stood off a fairly heavy attack with the weapons
and ammo stored in those halls...(c; Noone ever thought of shooting a
teacher or each other. That's crazy!

I only got thrown out of school ONCE. The school, itself, had us kids
selling magazines, light bulbs, etc., so did the Scouts. So, as I
worked in the 275 year old Rexall Drug Store after school, I had a
little condom concession setup in my locker, a little retail
establishment that kept the boys supplied and the girls out of
pregnancy.....well, until Mrs Van Lew, our old maid Cit Ed teacher
opened my locker during the lock-down cigarette inspections.

If the coach had opened it, we'd been fine. He knew it was there. But,
alas, he didn't, SHE did! Teenage girls didn't do THAT, in her world.
Her world was in Lalaland. I sold 50 dozen on a good Friday during
lunch period for the weekend. I made good money because I bought them
wholesale through the drug store account. I was performing a public (or
was that pubic) service! The Principal would have let it die if SHE
hadn't gone to the School Board. So, I got 3 days off and had to move
the store off school property, dropping revenues by 30%!

My dad thought it was hilarious....luckily. JC Penney had nothing on me
as a retailer...(c; Hell, the damned schools GIVE AWAY what I got in
trouble for, now!!

The drinking age in NY was 18 in 1964 when I turned 18, so we didn't
have the teenage drinking problems of Age 21 Prohibition does now. All
us kids, me included, were brought up in the bar at the VFW where we
went with our fathers! Begging for nickels to run the pinball machines
WAS PERMITTED....(c; Bringing beers to Dad's table was a great way to
get nickel tips, too! We stayed home during VFW meeting
nights....BORING!

Sorry you kids didn't get to go to Woodstock in '69. I was 23 and in
the Navy in Charleston. 5 of us drove my VW minibus to Woodstock on 3
weeks leave! Look for the skinhead sailors in all that hair in the
Woodstock pictures....(c; Anyone that actually REMEMBERS Woodstock
wasn't there. If you breathed the air, you were STONED....(c;

We better get back before the Topic Police start shooting.....(c;

Here, I'll start off:
Iphone will never be an Enterprise Device........your turn.

Kurt

In article <Xns9A83DF46BE868noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-
> 1767F9.17273517042008@news.giganews.com:
>
> > Seems like kids today are allowed the play and discovery that kids had
> > when I grew up.
> > We ate dirt (so we have great immune systems). Weren't driven
> everywhere
> > - we had bikes or walked to school. We also bonded with our friends
> more
> > after school.
> > Parents today have peer pressure to overprotect their kids.
> > Kids have no easy way of learning their boundaries today. (We got
> > whooped when we overstepped)
> > Bad time to be a kid.
> >
> >
>
> I don't think it's any different, now, than when I was a kid in the
> 1950's. They just didn't talk about all the nasty stuff that went on in
> 1950. Now, the propaganda machine's job is to push it 24/7. All men
> are evil. They do evil things. Today's kids are told that from
> kindergarten.
>
> Our other problem is this really scary slide back into religious
> control. We don't notice it, as long as we stay home. But, American
> tourists going to europe are just horrified that (put your EU country
> here) is a den of iniquity, promiscuous sex, why they even let little
> kids run around naked on the beach! Americans are religiously
> indoctrinated prudes, by comparison.
>
> The resurgence of religious isolation to the family sect is also very
> scary as it breeds hatred and contempt into the impressionable children
> before the age of reason. This sect's kids learn to hate and dispise
> this other sect's kids LONG before they can have at each other, Middle
> East Style, in the religious murders. Hell, there's Jews in England who
> were born and raised there in total isolation that don't even speak
> English so you can understand it. Walled in, any child is simply
> assimilated into whatever enclave he is enslaved to......and will
> believe anything the elders tell him, even murder.
>
> I grew up in Moravia, NY in the Owasco Lake Valley. Google Earth it,
> the whole place is in high resolution. It was a fantastic place to be
> raised in a small upstate NY town where everyone knew everyone and
> everyone else's business. By the time I was 10, my father simply said,
> "Be home at a reasonable hour.", and I left him to his TV addiction.
> Getting in trouble meant getting caught smoking by one of the town
> biddies or a school teacher. The really nasty kids strung toilet paper
> in the trees. Lots of kids had guns in school because we all went
> hunting right after school before the sun went down! Finding shotguns
> in lockers was OK. Finding CIGARETTES in lockers got you SUSPENDED! I
> believe we could have stood off a fairly heavy attack with the weapons
> and ammo stored in those halls...(c; Noone ever thought of shooting a
> teacher or each other. That's crazy!
>
> I only got thrown out of school ONCE. The school, itself, had us kids
> selling magazines, light bulbs, etc., so did the Scouts. So, as I
> worked in the 275 year old Rexall Drug Store after school, I had a
> little condom concession setup in my locker, a little retail
> establishment that kept the boys supplied and the girls out of
> pregnancy.....well, until Mrs Van Lew, our old maid Cit Ed teacher
> opened my locker during the lock-down cigarette inspections.
>
> If the coach had opened it, we'd been fine. He knew it was there. But,
> alas, he didn't, SHE did! Teenage girls didn't do THAT, in her world.
> Her world was in Lalaland. I sold 50 dozen on a good Friday during
> lunch period for the weekend. I made good money because I bought them
> wholesale through the drug store account. I was performing a public (or
> was that pubic) service! The Principal would have let it die if SHE
> hadn't gone to the School Board. So, I got 3 days off and had to move
> the store off school property, dropping revenues by 30%!
>
> My dad thought it was hilarious....luckily. JC Penney had nothing on me
> as a retailer...(c; Hell, the damned schools GIVE AWAY what I got in
> trouble for, now!!
>
> The drinking age in NY was 18 in 1964 when I turned 18, so we didn't
> have the teenage drinking problems of Age 21 Prohibition does now. All
> us kids, me included, were brought up in the bar at the VFW where we
> went with our fathers! Begging for nickels to run the pinball machines
> WAS PERMITTED....(c; Bringing beers to Dad's table was a great way to
> get nickel tips, too! We stayed home during VFW meeting
> nights....BORING!
>
> Sorry you kids didn't get to go to Woodstock in '69. I was 23 and in
> the Navy in Charleston. 5 of us drove my VW minibus to Woodstock on 3
> weeks leave! Look for the skinhead sailors in all that hair in the
> Woodstock pictures....(c; Anyone that actually REMEMBERS Woodstock
> wasn't there. If you breathed the air, you were STONED....(c;
>
> We better get back before the Topic Police start shooting.....(c;
>
> Here, I'll start off:
> Iphone will never be an Enterprise Device........your turn.

I'm with you on this. Same perspective, but little younger I was more
60s. One of my favs was in late 6os when the girl's VP at my Junior High
(forget the "Middle School" crap) would measure dress lengths. Anything
too short (like 2 inches above the knee) and the girl would have to wear
a burlap gunny sack fashioned into a dress.

Damn those topic police:

Maybe if they killed the camera when they brought in all the Enterprise
features it would.

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Larry

Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-
5AF8E7.20070317042008@news.giganews.com:

> I'm with you on this. Same perspective, but little younger I was more
> 60s. One of my favs was in late 6os when the girl's VP at my Junior
High
> (forget the "Middle School" crap) would measure dress lengths.
Anything
> too short (like 2 inches above the knee) and the girl would have to
wear
> a burlap gunny sack fashioned into a dress.
>

In our little town, only about 1/3 of the girls ever wore the skirts I
loved. Doesn't matter how long they are, skirts were designed for
sex....and I knew it...(c;

Being the condom dealer everyone depended upon had certain "fringe
benefits" and this "dependency" resulted in a lot of trust. The best
thing that happened was when I got caught, which was better advertising
than if I'd spent $20M on Superbowl advertising....

Our school was a Central School. The whole end of the county went to
ONE Elementary School to 6th Grade, then 7-12 was in the High School.
There was no need of a jr high for the puberty class.

19 boys graduated with me in '64. 9 of us survived Vietnam. Of us 9,
the best ones off were the ones that simply fled the country to Sweden
and Canada. They're all still there, well educated and captains of
industry. Of the 10 we lost, 3 of those are still MIA, long forgotten
and ignored by the US Government, it's military bureaucrats...simply
written off.

Today, every teenage boy I meet or can interfere with, I beg them to
stay as far away from the Illuminati's military money machine as I can
get them. They've ruined enough lives in my lifetime. There's no honor
and country left about it. There wasn't in Vietnam, either...
Prostituting themselves out for a few dollars to the National Guard and
Reserves is just guaranteeing they'll be put in "Harm's Way for
Halliburton". If we ever DO get attacked, and we weren't on 9/11/2001,
the boys will do their duty...without being cannon fodder for some
military hardware corporation to test its latest toys against some
poorly defended enemy of Israel.

.......topic switch......ON

Yes, the camera just about keeps them out of most companies with secrets
to hide.

Kurt

In article <Xns9A8451D9BD9Fnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> In our little town, only about 1/3 of the girls ever wore the skirts I
> loved. Doesn't matter how long they are, skirts were designed for
> sex....and I knew it...(c;
>
> Being the condom dealer everyone depended upon had certain "fringe
> benefits" and this "dependency" resulted in a lot of trust. The best
> thing that happened was when I got caught, which was better advertising
> than if I'd spent $20M on Superbowl advertising....
>
> Our school was a Central School. The whole end of the county went to
> ONE Elementary School to 6th Grade, then 7-12 was in the High School.
> There was no need of a jr high for the puberty class.
>
> 19 boys graduated with me in '64. 9 of us survived Vietnam. Of us 9,
> the best ones off were the ones that simply fled the country to Sweden
> and Canada. They're all still there, well educated and captains of
> industry. Of the 10 we lost, 3 of those are still MIA, long forgotten
> and ignored by the US Government, it's military bureaucrats...simply
> written off.
>
> Today, every teenage boy I meet or can interfere with, I beg them to
> stay as far away from the Illuminati's military money machine as I can
> get them. They've ruined enough lives in my lifetime. There's no honor
> and country left about it. There wasn't in Vietnam, either...
> Prostituting themselves out for a few dollars to the National Guard and
> Reserves is just guaranteeing they'll be put in "Harm's Way for
> Halliburton". If we ever DO get attacked, and we weren't on 9/11/2001,
> the boys will do their duty...without being cannon fodder for some
> military hardware corporation to test its latest toys against some
> poorly defended enemy of Israel.
>
> ......topic switch......ON
>
> Yes, the camera just about keeps them out of most companies with secrets
> to hide.

Heartbreaking stories from back then. They ended the draft the year I
turned 18. I was ready to enlist in AF. Only knew a couple guys who
never came back (older brothers of friends)

Terrible to see the same stuff happening again today - with an even more
ill-conceived war.

Back to topic....

A phone version of the iPod Touch?

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Larry

Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-
EB8D3F.15051018042008@news.giganews.com:

> Heartbreaking stories from back then. They ended the draft the year I
> turned 18. I was ready to enlist in AF. Only knew a couple guys who
> never came back (older brothers of friends)

Every MALE who graduated in 1964 was DRAFTED unless he had a deferment
in hand the day he graduated. This usually kept the rich kids out of
the trenches, you know, like John Kerry, GW, the rich kids.

So, I knew there was a file with my name on it....no money, no papers.
I had been talking to Signalman Master Chief Ralph W Ince, USN, a rather
short Cherokee Indian from the Auburn, NY, Navy recruiting office.
Chief Ince saved hundreds of boys from being killed during his
assignment because he got us in the Navy and away from those fox holes.

I had been draggin' my feet trying not to go anywhere. I had a nice job
at the Rexall Drug Store, family and friends and a whole town where
everyone pretty much loved everyone else.

Well, it was a Thursday and I was home with my mother, father at work
making Smith-Corona Sterling typewriters in a sweatshop in Groton, NY,
two towns south of Moravia. The phone rang and my mother called me to
it. "Butler, do you want to come in the Navy, today?"....hemmed and
hawed about 30 seconds and Chief Ince dropped the bomb. "Well, this
will be my last call....." I asked him if he'd given up on me. "No,
but they mailed your draft notice about 8AM this morning. If I don't
get you out of there AND SWORN IN before that postman special delivers
your notice, you'll be in the Army and out of my reach." Within 30
minutes, Chief Ince was in the Navy's van at my door with 4 other
draftees he was trying to save. I bid my mother farewell after putting
on some rather old clothes, as instructed, and off we shot away from
there towards the Navy induction station in Syracuse, directly, as I was
the last pickup on Thursday.

When we got there, they took us into this large room and IMMEDIATELY
swore us into the Navy, almost before we had all gotten into the room!
After we were officially sworn in, they took the time to find out if
they wanted to keep us, which they did, so when the postman got to my
mother's home, she told him I had already joined the Navy that very day.
Mr Valentine, our postman, smiled and said that was 3 in the Navy and 5
in the Air Force since he started delivering the notices that
day....only two got drafted before he got to my house, but there were
others still in his bag.....one of them my buddy, Mike, who was killed
about a year later in the Vietnamese mountains by machine gun fire....


>
> Terrible to see the same stuff happening again today - with an even
more
> ill-conceived war.
>

Not ill-conceived at all! The Illuminati Bankers know exactly what
they're doing. Just like Vietnam, they have found a SUSTAINABLE war so
they can keep loaning the US Government more and more money, AT
INTEREST, to run the war machine which keeps all of them very rich. The
Bankers from the interest,the politicians from the bribes and kickbacks
and the War contractors from the constant stream of replacement parts
and new equipment and new methods of mass murder ordered by the bribed
politicians. It all feeds very well on itself......and, DEPOPULATES a
good portion of the world of us lower classes in the process with noone
trying to kill the overlords, themselves.

"The New World Order".....constant war, depopulation, devaluation...

On topic -

I met a kid at Circuit City with a cracked and loaded iPhone. It
actually had some apps in it, but he was out of memory on two apps that
were a little too grandiose for a device with only 76MB of user memory.