Apple's New Guided Tour of 3G iPhone

4phun <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Jul 1, 1:42*pm, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Just posted, the new Tour of the 3G iPhone!
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> >
> > Enjoy!
>
> posted by arn on Tuesday July 01, 2008 01:34 PM
>
> Another iPhone FREEBIE
>
> A sharp individual spotted the AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) client on
> the App Store during the Guided Tour posted today.
>
> The AIM client will provide iChat compatible instant messaging for the
> iPhone and iPod Touch. AOL first demoed the app during the original
> iPhone SDK launch event, but have made no further announcements since
> that time.

yep! basically, anything people still want will appear on the iPhone in
10 Days! Things like Video Recording, MMS, TV Remotes, Garage Door
Openers, Bar Code Scanning are all coming to the iPhone.

It's going to freak a lot of the competitors out since they can't have
easy app installation like the iPhone has. 4,000 apps by the touch of a
finger, sweet...

---

› See More: Apple's New Guided Tour of 3G iPhone

In article <[email protected]>, "RBM" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> > Hmm... are you next going to tell us that Microsoft earned 90+% of the
> > desktop OS market business by developing a product the majority of
> > computer users want?
> >
> Nope,only that it was preferred over anything anyone else had

i don't think anyone ever "preferred" microsoft products, it was more
"they had little choice".

Oxford <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in news:apony-
[email protected]:

> 4phun <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 1, 1:42*pm, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Just posted, the new Tour of the 3G iPhone!
>> >
>> > http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/
>> >
>> > http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>> >
>> > Enjoy!
>>
>> posted by arn on Tuesday July 01, 2008 01:34 PM
>>
>> Another iPhone FREEBIE
>>
>> A sharp individual spotted the AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) client on
>> the App Store during the Guided Tour posted today.
>>
>> The AIM client will provide iChat compatible instant messaging for the
>> iPhone and iPod Touch. AOL first demoed the app during the original
>> iPhone SDK launch event, but have made no further announcements since
>> that time.
>
> yep! basically, anything people still want will appear on the iPhone in
> 10 Days! Things like Video Recording,

BNot on the 3g iPhone

> MMS,

Old technology

> TV Remotes, Garage Door
> Openers, Bar Code Scanning are all coming to the iPhone.

You forgot the Swiss Army Knife and taser included in the deluxe model.

>
> It's going to freak a lot of the competitors out since they can't have
> easy app installation like the iPhone has. 4,000 apps by the touch of a
> finger, sweet...

Yeah- they just build phones that need the Apple workarounds. How dare
they?

>

Oxford <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-AD6376.21170801072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level
3.net:

> In article <[email protected]>, "RBM" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> > Hmm... are you next going to tell us that Microsoft earned 90+% of
>> > the desktop OS market business by developing a product the majority
>> > of computer users want?
>> >
>> Nope,only that it was preferred over anything anyone else had
>
> i don't think

And there is the most accurate statement to date.

The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

> > nah, it will follow the ipod sales phenomenon that started in year 3,
> > it has 0.8& now, 40% in year 3, just watch...
>
> Oh, little stupid one. How can you compare a product in an emerging
> market with one in a very mature market?

the smartphone market is just emerging, all other cell phones will end
up like the sony walkman, just watch what apple will do to this poorly
performing market. all the competitors are extremely weak, apple will
shred them...

> > the 4,000 software apps
> > for the iphone will make it off the charts popular...
>
> Nope. 3000 of them will be calendar addons and SMS tools. Toys for the
> toy.

not from the lists i've seen... most are high end like medical imaging,
scientific apps, complex web apps, on and on.

> > and when did steve ever say: "changing the way wireless companies do
> > business," ???
>
> When the original iPhone was announced, along with the now extinct
> revenue sharing.

link please, otherwise you are lying...

> >> > and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones
> >> > with no contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile
> >> > people wanting to move up to an iPhone.
> >>
> >> Yeah- for $600 to start. I'm sure folks will be beating down the
> >> doors at that price. Not.
> >
> > plenty of people will pay $600, my 4GB iPhone is still worth exactly
> > what I paid for it a year later.
>
> Not according to Ebay.

further proof you are wrong:

http://snipurl.com/2sgv5 [4gb_iphone_search-completed_ebay_com]
>
> > Buying quality is the way to go when
> > buying electronics.
>
> So when are you going to start?

i've always done that, the question is when are you going to wise up?

In article <[email protected]>,
"Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > i've never been a fanboy, just a provider of good news... watch the Tour!
>
> Always been a fanboi - a blind, rabid one - the worst kind.
>
> And you have also been wrong.

nope!

> Remember your offhand dismissal of 3G? The stupid comments you made?
> Now that it's actually IN an iPhone - I guess you must be eating those
> words...

what? 3G still sucks the life out of your battery for no real gain since
most people will use WiFi 90% of the time. The exciting thing about july
11th is the App Store not the 3G phone.

> Then, your insipid wi-fi assertions. Months later, proven to be utterly
> wrong.

I was never prove wrong, WiFi is more open and free now more than ever,
just as I predicted.

> Your blather about RIM, Nokia and others. Still wrong for the most part.
>
> Bottom line - FANBOY!!!

nah, I'll never be a fanboy, just a proponent of "quality" products no
matter what the brand.

Oxford <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-E015D5.21325001072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level
3.net:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > i've never been a fanboy, just a provider of good news... watch the
>> > Tour!
>>
>> Always been a fanboi - a blind, rabid one - the worst kind.
>>
>> And you have also been wrong.
>
> nope!
>
>> Remember your offhand dismissal of 3G? The stupid comments you made?
>> Now that it's actually IN an iPhone - I guess you must be eating
>> those words...
>
> what? 3G still sucks the life out of your battery for no real gain
> since most people will use WiFi 90% of the time. The exciting thing
> about july 11th is the App Store not the 3G phone.
>
>> Then, your insipid wi-fi assertions. Months later, proven to be
>> utterly wrong.
>
> I was never prove wrong, WiFi is more open and free now more than
> ever, just as I predicted.

Proof?

>
>> Your blather about RIM, Nokia and others. Still wrong for the most
>> part.
>>
>> Bottom line - FANBOY!!!
>
> nah, I'll never be a fanboy, just a proponent of "quality" products no
> matter what the brand.
>

Now that was funny.

In article <[email protected]>,
The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> The AIM client will provide iChat compatible instant messaging for the
> >> iPhone and iPod Touch. AOL first demoed the app during the original
> >> iPhone SDK launch event, but have made no further announcements since
> >> that time.
> >
> > yep! basically, anything people still want will appear on the iPhone in
> > 10 Days! Things like Video Recording,
>
> BNot on the 3g iPhone

sure they will, both 2 & 3G iphones will have it.

> > MMS,
>
> Old technology

i agree, but the iphones will have it within the first few days for
those who want it.

> > TV Remotes, Garage Door
> > Openers, Bar Code Scanning are all coming to the iPhone.
>
> You forgot the Swiss Army Knife and taser included in the deluxe model.

no knives, but there are now iphone flash lights

> > It's going to freak a lot of the competitors out since they can't have
> > easy app installation like the iPhone has. 4,000 apps by the touch of a
> > finger, sweet...
>
> Yeah- they just build phones that need the Apple workarounds. How dare
> they?

??? not sure what you mean? apple just builds the solid foundation,
everyone else builds the rest...

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:apony-E015D5.21325001072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:
Your blather about RIM, Nokia and others. Still wrong for the most
part.
>>
>> Bottom line - FANBOY!!!
>
> nah, I'll never be a fanboy, just a proponent of "quality" products no
> matter what the brand.

Oxford, anybody who is as evangelical about a phone as you are and is
not employed by its manufacturer is, by definition, a fanboy. We are
all thrilled that you are a happy apple customer and loyal to their
product du jour, but haven't you gotten the message from these posts
that many disagree? And if we/they do disagree, why do you care? Again,
only a company employee or a fanboy would care - and even a company
employee would appreciate that it takes a wide variety of products to
serve any given market - ONLY a fanboy would be so arrogant as to think
that the whole world. Apple is a bit unique in thinking their way is
the only way but perhaps - just perhaps - that's why they maintain their
low single digit market share.

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.verizon.]
On 2008-07-01, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones with no
> contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile people wanting to
> move up to an iPhone.

AT&T, then SBC and previously Ohio Bell/Ameritech, screwed me over on
DSL and dialtone a few years ago, requiring me to file a complaint
with the Ohio PUC before they'd refund $200 in charges on broken phone
and DSL service that they failed to fix for two months. Or at least
they tried. They did not succeed - the PUC saw to that.

As a result, Satan will be selling Sno-Cones in Hell before I spend another
penny on anything they offer.

So, I really don't care what they're selling. I'm not buying.

--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol

Steve Sobol wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.verizon.]
> On 2008-07-01, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones with no
>> contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile people wanting to
>> move up to an iPhone.
>
> AT&T, then SBC and previously Ohio Bell/Ameritech, screwed me over on
> DSL and dialtone a few years ago, requiring me to file a complaint
> with the Ohio PUC before they'd refund $200 in charges on broken phone
> and DSL service that they failed to fix for two months. Or at least
> they tried. They did not succeed - the PUC saw to that.
>
> As a result, Satan will be selling Sno-Cones in Hell before I spend another
> penny on anything they offer.
>
> So, I really don't care what they're selling. I'm not buying.
>

And if your gripe is with AT&T, why did you post to all the other cell
phone groups?

And your follow-up tag is set to the Verizon newsgroup? Dumb.

"Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> RBM wrote on [Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:23:48 -0400]:
>>
>> "Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...and your reason for posting this to the T-Mobile (and other non-ATT)
>>>> groups is? I know this may be difficult for you to understand, but
>>>> those
>>>> of us who are happy with their non-ATT carriers just don't care about
>>>> the iphone.
>>>
>>> ah, within a few years, 60% of the population will have an iPhone so
>>> it's good to let people start learning about them now.
>>>
>>> and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones with no
>>> contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile people wanting to
>>> move up to an iPhone.
>>>
>>> so sit back, watch the tour and enjoy a glimpse into your future!
>>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/tour/large.html
>>>
>>> (or for slower connections, you can fully download or choose a smaller
>>> sized version of the tour here)
>>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/
>>>
>>
>> Personally, I'd be happy as a clam if Apple earned 60% of the cell phone
>> business, but, if they do, it'll be because they've developed a product
>> that
>
> Screw that, Apple would be tyrannical with a market share like that

I think you have it wrong. It's partially their tyrannical attitude that
prevents them from gaining market share. Possibly, if they lost the
attitude, the tyranny, and the smarmy little piss ants like Oxford and
company, they'd do much better

In article <[email protected]>, "RBM" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> >> Personally, I'd be happy as a clam if Apple earned 60% of the cell phone
> >> business, but, if they do, it'll be because they've developed a product
> >> that
> >
> > Screw that, Apple would be tyrannical with a market share like that
>
> I think you have it wrong. It's partially their tyrannical attitude that
> prevents them from gaining market share. Possibly, if they lost the
> attitude, the tyranny, and the smarmy little piss ants like Oxford and
> company, they'd do much better

actually, it's that tyrannical drive for perfection which produces such
fine products. customers love perfect products and that's why the ipod
holds 70% of the music player market, and why 57% of Japanese smartphone
shoppers want an iPhone.

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...02/154237/?P=1

the only people that don't like the zeal towards "perfection" are
competitors... isn't that interesting.

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:apony-F1AFBE.15323302072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net...
> In article <[email protected]>, "RBM" <[email protected]>
> wrote:

>>
>> I think you have it wrong. It's partially their tyrannical attitude
>> that
>> prevents them from gaining market share. Possibly, if they lost the
>> attitude, the tyranny, and the smarmy little piss ants like Oxford
>> and
>> company, they'd do much better
>
> actually, it's that tyrannical drive for perfection which produces
> such
> fine products. customers love perfect products and that's why the ipod
> holds 70% of the music player market, and why 57% of Japanese
> smartphone
> shoppers want an iPhone.
>
> http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...02/154237/?P=1
>
> the only people that don't like the zeal towards "perfection" are
> competitors... isn't that interesting.

Apple is FAR from perfection. They couldn't even repair an iPOD that was
returned to them 3 times under warranty because they couldn't understand
or wouldn't admit what the problem was (fairly simple, it wouldn't hold
a charge). That was my one and only horrific experience with Apple. I
wouldn't DARE try again. Believe it or not fanboy, other manufacturers
make damn good products that are easy to use and reliable and, if
customer service IS needed, they actually fix the problem right the
first time! Example, the Delete key fell off my Sony laptop's keyboard.
I brought into Sony's repair depot and they fitted it with a whole new
keyboard and had me on my way in under 30 minutes. Try that with an
Apple!

The Bob <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> No- a solid foundation would include functionality that is standard on
> even the most basic cell phones. The iPhone misses on this.
>
>

Met a great FruitFone owner this morning over breakfast. A friend met
me and I booted Xournal on the N800 Linux Tablet to make a schematic
drawing for him to build something when he got home. It's a shunt
regulator to keep his solar panels from boiling away the electrolyte in
his battery banks.

Anyway, I noticed this younger guy at the next table watching me drawing
away with my stylus on Xournal and making notes on it with the onscreen
stylus keyboard because noone can read my handwriting except some
Egyptologists at major universities.

Finally, he couldn't stand it any more as I was emailing the drawings to
my friend's home computer over my BT DUN on Alltel data link. "What do
you call that?", he asked, pointing to the tablet. "I've never seen
anything like that. I have an iPhone.", he proudly proclaimed.

After a short, but very informative mini-presentation of the N800, he
wanted to know where to get one and was astonished that all the software
I had shown him was freeware from some Linux hackers at maemo.org....(c;

Note to buy.com - I WANT COMMISSIONS ON MY ORDERS!!

Another convertee. I gave him my email addy to help him set it up when
it gets here like I've done for many others. Buy me breakfast and I'll
setup your tablet with the latest and neatest stuff...(c;

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/xournal/

http://xournal.sourceforge.net/
Mac will run Linux software, right??