First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps

well below is the first video of the 3G iphones arriving and being
locked down at an AT&T store. (those employees are so fired for filming
that

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/10/...-apps-25-free/

and a bit of a surprise, the Apps store is going to start with 500 Apps.

USA Today spoke with Steve Jobs about the impending App Store launch
that is rumored to launch at 9 am PT on Thursday, July 10th.

Jobs reveals that 500 applications will be launching on Thursday and
that it is "the biggest launch" of his career. Apps will be available
from MySpace, Facebook, AOL, eBay, SEGA and many more companies. One
called Pandora allows you to create custom internet radio stations:

Pandora is already available on other phones from AT&T and Sprint, for a
monthly fee. On the iPhone, it is free. That makes it "a credible
alternative to broadcast (radio)," in part because iPhones can be
plugged into car stereos, founder Tim Westergren says.

According to Jobs, at launch, 25% (~125) of the apps will be free while
90% of the remaining applications will be $9.99 or less. Meanwhile, New
York Times has a similar article and pinpoints that one third (~166) of
the apps will be games. A new site called TouchArcade.com is
specifically covering iPhone and iPod touch gaming and has already
covered some interesting possibilities.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...-09-apple-apps
-store-iphone-ipod_N.htm

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> wrote in news:apony-EE30ED.00042110072008
@news.qwest.net:

> Pandora is already available on other phones from AT&T and Sprint, for a
> monthly fee. On the iPhone, it is free. That makes it "a credible
> alternative to broadcast (radio)," in part because iPhones can be
> plugged into car stereos, founder Tim Westergren says.
>

So what? Every computer ALREADY has a radio player/tuner or 50....

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/streamtuner/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streamtuner

It's real old.....

Why is when FruitFones play catchup with everyone else it creates this huge
media event like it's something new??

"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AD7600DF3AE7noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> Oxford <apony@pasture.com> wrote in news:apony-EE30ED.00042110072008
> @news.qwest.net:
>
>> Pandora is already available on other phones from AT&T and Sprint, for a
>> monthly fee. On the iPhone, it is free. That makes it "a credible
>> alternative to broadcast (radio)," in part because iPhones can be
>> plugged into car stereos, founder Tim Westergren says.
>>
>
> So what? Every computer ALREADY has a radio player/tuner or 50....
>
> http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/streamtuner/
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streamtuner
>
> It's real old.....
>
> Why is when FruitFones play catchup with everyone else it creates this
> huge
> media event like it's something new??
>
Uh, let me play: Because they're smart at marketing?

"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AD7600DF3AE7noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> Oxford <apony@pasture.com> wrote in news:apony-EE30ED.00042110072008
> @news.qwest.net:
>
>> Pandora is already available on other phones from AT&T and Sprint, for a
>> monthly fee. On the iPhone, it is free. That makes it "a credible
>> alternative to broadcast (radio)," in part because iPhones can be
>> plugged into car stereos, founder Tim Westergren says.
>>
>
> So what? Every computer ALREADY has a radio player/tuner or 50....
>
> http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/streamtuner/
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streamtuner
>
> It's real old.....
>
> Why is when FruitFones play catchup with everyone else it creates this
> huge
> media event like it's something new??


Well, to be fair, Pandora is a bit unique amongst streaming services. It
allows you to create your own "radio stations" based on artists or songs you
like, and based on 400 attributes in those songs, it selects other
songs/artists with similar attributes. You can also "thumbs up" and "thumbs
down" songs as they play to further refine what kind of music will be
streamed on that "station" in the future. Far more powerful than simply
selecting, say, a "60's" station or "Big Band" station. If you like the Rat
Pack, select Frank, Dino and Sammy as your "seed" artists and that, and
similar styled music, is all you'll hear.

Pandora has a mobile distribution contract with AT&T and Sprint, so their
mobile apps only run on those carriers (although you can listen to Pandora
on any service with a tethered PC- Pandora uses Flash and is ad-supported in
the free version, thwarting my attempts to get it to work on my WinMo
devices regardless of browser I try. I'll have to try remote desktop one of
these days when I'm bored and see if the RD client on my WinMo phone can
keep up with 128kb audio streams!)

A subscription to Pandora on Sprint ($2.99/month) or AT&T ($8.99/month) also
includes a subscription to the desktop version (which just removes the ad
banners, and is available for $36/year if you don't buy a mobile
subscription- there's no difference in music playing for free or paid
subscribers.)

This is a heck of a perq for iPhone owners, frankly, and might give Pandora
a lot more exposure. I suspect the "free" subscription is an experiment-
Pandora (on the desktop, anyway) has a click-thru system to buy any song you
hear at Amazon or iTunes, for which Pandora receives a commission. A nice
big fat "Buy this song on iTunes" button on the iPhone Pandora client might
generate enough revenue to make this a win-win-win-win for Apple, Pandora,
AT&T and the customer that doesn't have time to seek out new music on their
own.

Give Pandora a try, Larry, and see if your N800 RD client can grab the music
from your desktop- you might have discovered a new favorite streaming
source.

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:g55fkv$sg$1@aioe.org:

> Well, to be fair, Pandora is a bit unique amongst streaming services.
> It allows you to create your own "radio stations" based on artists or
> songs you like, and based on 400 attributes in those songs, it selects
> other songs/artists with similar attributes. You can also "thumbs up"
> and "thumbs down" songs as they play to further refine what kind of
> music will be streamed on that "station" in the future. Far more
> powerful than simply selecting, say, a "60's" station or "Big Band"
> station. If you like the Rat Pack, select Frank, Dino and Sammy as
> your "seed" artists and that, and similar styled music, is all you'll
> hear.
>
>

OH! You mean like last.fm!

http://www.last.fm/

http://vagalume.igalia.com/

I see....(c;

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:g55fkv$sg$1@aioe.org:

> Give Pandora a try, Larry, and see if your N800 RD client can grab the
> music from your desktop- you might have discovered a new favorite
> streaming source.
>
>
>

Hmm....ok.

http://vagalume.igalia.com/

http://www.xiph.org/

http://icecast.org/
Y'all boys give a listen to the thousand or so channels....

and it won't cost you a dime!
http://dir.xiph.org/index.php

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in news:apony-
EE30ED.00042110072008@news.qwest.net:

> well below is the first video of the 3G iphones arriving and being
> locked down at an AT&T store. (those employees are so fired for filming
> that
>
> http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/10/...-apps-25-free/
>
> and a bit of a surprise, the Apps store is going to start with 500 Apps.
>

Wait- you said it would roll with thousands.

You lied.

At 10 Jul 2008 22:21:57 +0000 Larry wrote:

> > Well, to be fair, Pandora is a bit unique amongst streaming services.
> > It allows you to create your own "radio stations" based on artists or
> > songs you like, and based on 400 attributes in those songs, it selects
> > other songs/artists with similar attributes. You can also "thumbs up"
> > and "thumbs down" songs as they play to further refine what kind of
> > music will be streamed on that "station" in the future. Far more
> > powerful than simply selecting, say, a "60's" station or "Big Band"
> > station. If you like the Rat Pack, select Frank, Dino and Sammy as
> > your "seed" artists and that, and similar styled music, is all you'll
> > hear.
> >
> >
>
> OH! You mean like last.fm!
>
> http://www.last.fm/
>
> http://vagalume.igalia.com/
>
> I see....(c;

Yep, more like that! ;-)

The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> > http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/10/...-apps-25-free/
> >
> > and a bit of a surprise, the Apps store is going to start with 500 Apps.
> >
>
> Wait- you said it would roll with thousands.
>
> You lied.

I didn't "lie", there are thousands, but the App store was limited to
500 to everyone's surprise.

Please learn what a "lie" is, since if you can't figure out basic
vocabulary, you will be plonked.

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> OH! You mean like last.fm!
>
> http://www.last.fm/
>
> http://vagalume.igalia.com/
>
> I see....(c;

last.fm is already on the iPhone...

http://dev.c99.org/MobileScrobbler/

Craig <netburgher@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in news:Wazdk.10277$LG4.5456
@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com:

> Is it ok, Terms&Conditions-wise, to "jailbreak" an iphone?
>
> tia,
> -Craig
>
>

Some kid online waiting all night in one of the major cities with 3G ATT
posted to Gizmodo that Iphone One was selling, in the line itself, for
$50/ea...(c;

They're trying to talk him out of buying one and getting a 3G....with a
smaller battery it seems (1150maH vs 1400maH).

Craig <netburgher@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

> > http://dev.c99.org/MobileScrobbler/
>
> The site says:
> > requirements
> >
> > * A jailbroken iPhone or iPod Touch
> > * Firmware 1.1.1 or newer
> > * A last.fm account
>
> Is it ok, Terms&Conditions-wise, to "jailbreak" an iphone?

yeah, saw that later... certainly they or someone will have a similar
non-jailbrake app in a few days, weeks.

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-E2195F.19205110072008@news.qwest.net:

> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> > http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/10/...00-apps-25-fre
>> > e/
>> >
>> > and a bit of a surprise, the Apps store is going to start with 500
>> > Apps.
>> >
>>
>> Wait- you said it would roll with thousands.
>>
>> You lied.
>
> I didn't "lie", there are thousands, but the App store was limited to
> 500 to everyone's surprise.
>
> Please learn what a "lie" is, since if you can't figure out basic
> vocabulary, you will be plonked.

Please do. I love nothing more than to point out your stupidity without
having to play with the technicalities and mistruths you use to later
deflect the truth. Need an example? You provide a perfect one above.

You did say that the 3g iPhone would roll in concert with the app store and
have the largest application base of any phone on the market (more than
once). And you based this on an implied insider;s view of the situation.
If you want me to say that you simply misrepresented your view, fine.
Misrepresentation is nothing more than a lie.