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- 07-13-2008, 09:08 AM #31nospamGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
In article <[email protected]>, The Bob
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > lots. everyone with an activated iphone and purchased it before the
> > price cut was entitled to a $100 gift certificate.
>
> Your answer makes no sense. You say they sent out lots of checks and then
> talk about gift certificates. Oxtard clearly stated that people got money
> back.
it makes perfect sense. people did get money back in the form of a
gift certificate. it's really quite simple.
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- 07-13-2008, 10:44 AM #32LarryGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
nospam <[email protected]> wrote in
news:130720080808315992%[email protected]:
> In article <[email protected]>, The Bob
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > lots. everyone with an activated iphone and purchased it before
>> > the price cut was entitled to a $100 gift certificate.
>>
>> Your answer makes no sense. You say they sent out lots of checks and
>> then talk about gift certificates. Oxtard clearly stated that people
>> got money back.
>
> it makes perfect sense. people did get money back in the form of a
> gift certificate. it's really quite simple.
>
Gift certificates are money? My, my, Apple HAS got them into a new
religion...
- 07-13-2008, 11:50 AM #33nospamGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
In article <[email protected]>, Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > lots. everyone with an activated iphone and purchased it before
> >> > the price cut was entitled to a $100 gift certificate.
> >>
> >> Your answer makes no sense. You say they sent out lots of checks and
> >> then talk about gift certificates. Oxtard clearly stated that people
> >> got money back.
> >
> > it makes perfect sense. people did get money back in the form of a
> > gift certificate. it's really quite simple.
>
> Gift certificates are money?
they work exactly the same as money. most people bought stuff they
were planning on buying anyway. at the end of the day, people received
$100 back.
it's not any different than how many companies do it. have you ever
received a denied boarding voucher from an airline? they don't hand
back cash (except in very rare circumstances).
- 07-13-2008, 12:45 PM #34The BobGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
nospam <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:130720080808315992%[email protected]:
> In article <[email protected]>, The Bob
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > lots. everyone with an activated iphone and purchased it before
>> > the price cut was entitled to a $100 gift certificate.
>>
>> Your answer makes no sense. You say they sent out lots of checks and
>> then talk about gift certificates. Oxtard clearly stated that people
>> got money back.
>
> it makes perfect sense. people did get money back in the form of a
> gift certificate. it's really quite simple.
It makes no sense. Even your statement is flawed- "people did get money
back in the form of a gift certificate." So they were able to walk into
the Apple store and exchange the gift certificate for cash?
Can you fill your gas tank with an Apple gift certificate? Pay your
mortgage?
Didn't think so. Nobody got $100 back.
- 07-13-2008, 02:03 PM #35nospamGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
In article <[email protected]>, The Bob
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > it makes perfect sense. people did get money back in the form of a
> > gift certificate. it's really quite simple.
>
> It makes no sense. Even your statement is flawed- "people did get money
> back in the form of a gift certificate." So they were able to walk into
> the Apple store and exchange the gift certificate for cash?
>
> Can you fill your gas tank with an Apple gift certificate? Pay your
> mortgage?
>
> Didn't think so. Nobody got $100 back.
you're grasping at straws.
- 07-13-2008, 02:26 PM #36LarryGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
nospam <[email protected]> wrote in news:130720081050439934%
[email protected]lid:
> at the end of the day, people received
> $100 back.
>
No, that's not correct. Apple's running at about 50% profit margin on new
products. (Iphone 3G is $137 cost so several analysts say.)
So, what they got back was only $50 in Apple.....they had no choice to buy.
They should have gotten a check, like others have posted.
.....instead they got screwed.....
- 07-13-2008, 02:54 PM #37nospamGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
In article <[email protected]>, Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:
> nospam <[email protected]> wrote in news:130720081050439934%
> [email protected]lid:
>
> > at the end of the day, people received
> > $100 back.
>
> No, that's not correct.
it's exactly correct.
> Apple's running at about 50% profit margin on new
> products. (Iphone 3G is $137 cost so several analysts say.)
their profit margin is irrelevant, nevertheless, apple has a 35.8%
gross profit margin and 21.7% pre-tax profit margin.
<http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/js...tios.jsp?tkr=A
APL>
> So, what they got back was only $50 in Apple.....they had no choice to buy.
that doesn't make any sense.
> They should have gotten a check, like others have posted.
why? because you say so?
> ....instead they got screwed.....
no, they were able to buy $100 in merchandise, courtesy of apple.
- 07-13-2008, 05:52 PM #38The BobGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
nospam <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:130720081354512782%[email protected]:
> In article <[email protected]>, Larry
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> nospam <[email protected]> wrote in news:130720081050439934%
>> [email protected]lid:
>>
>> > at the end of the day, people received
>> > $100 back.
>>
>> No, that's not correct.
>
> it's exactly correct.
>
>> Apple's running at about 50% profit margin on new
>> products. (Iphone 3G is $137 cost so several analysts say.)
>
> their profit margin is irrelevant, nevertheless, apple has a 35.8%
> gross profit margin and 21.7% pre-tax profit margin.
>
> <http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/js...atios.jsp?tkr=
> A APL>
>
>> So, what they got back was only $50 in Apple.....they had no choice
>> to buy.
>
> that doesn't make any sense.
>
>> They should have gotten a check, like others have posted.
>
> why? because you say so?
>
>> ....instead they got screwed.....
>
> no, they were able to buy $100 in merchandise, courtesy of apple.
>
And if they needed no additional merchandise?
- 07-13-2008, 05:54 PM #39OxfordGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
\Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> > ah, ebay and craigslist are free, open markets, there is no way a dealer
> > can hold a price up... market forces dictate the price. and currently a
> > 1.0 iPhone 8GB goes for around $380-$420, those are the facts.
>
> I hate to burst your bubble, but a car DEALER can ALWAYS command a higher
> price for a used car than YOU can......
don't make me laugh, a Car dealer can't get near as much for my car as I
can on my own... I have much more knowledge than he has, plus I can get
30% above bluebook since I know how to provide the most value. If you
sell your car through a "dealer" expect to lose 25% of the actual value.
> You need to get out more....(c;
ah, you need to get out of the UNEDUCATED South... every time I read
your posts, it's like looking into the 1880's when people were poorly
educated.
Larry, no offense, but you're an idiot compared to most modern standards.
- 07-13-2008, 06:03 PM #40OxfordGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> Interesting- however, I seem to recall the first batch lost about 1/3
> >> >> of their value in six weeks... ;-)
> >> >
> >> > no, the 8GB lost 20%, it went from $599, to $399 and everyone got $100
> >> > back, so it dropped by $100, or 20%.
> >>
> >> Nobody got $100 back.
> >
> > actually, everyone that wanted it did...
>
> How many checks for $100 did Apple generate?
oh, probably 5, 600,000... although i know plenty of people that were so
satisfied with the iPhone, they didn't want the money, they wanted to
support more great products, so it's hard to say for sure.
-
- 07-13-2008, 06:08 PM #41OxfordGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> Your answer makes no sense. You say they sent out lots of checks and then
> talk about gift certificates. Oxtard clearly stated that people got money
> back.
>
> So, let's try this again. How many checks did Apple send out?
about 5, 600,000, it seems you are mistaking a check for a future
purchase. everyone that owns an apple product is happy to get back $100
over the next few weeks.
apple users buy $1,000's of dollars worth of apple products each year,
so a $100 check back is great...
poor Boob, doesn't even understand the Apple Culture!
no wonder he is seen as such a fool on this forum!
- 07-13-2008, 06:11 PM #42OxfordGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> It makes no sense. Even your statement is flawed- "people did get money
> back in the form of a gift certificate." So they were able to walk into
> the Apple store and exchange the gift certificate for cash?
>
> Can you fill your gas tank with an Apple gift certificate? Pay your
> mortgage?
but Apple users aren't poor, so simple things like gas or a mortgage
really don't appear on the radar...
are you poor Boob? since it really sounds like it...
> Didn't think so. Nobody got $100 back.
I did! I got $135 back!
And know countless others that got at least $100 back.
- 07-13-2008, 06:12 PM #43The BobGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
Oxford <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:[email protected]:
> The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> >> Interesting- however, I seem to recall the first batch lost
>> >> >> about 1/3 of their value in six weeks... ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> > no, the 8GB lost 20%, it went from $599, to $399 and everyone
>> >> > got $100 back, so it dropped by $100, or 20%.
>> >>
>> >> Nobody got $100 back.
>> >
>> > actually, everyone that wanted it did...
>>
>> How many checks for $100 did Apple generate?
>
> oh, probably 5, 600,000... although i know plenty of people that were
> so satisfied with the iPhone, they didn't want the money, they wanted
> to support more great products, so it's hard to say for sure.
>
> -
>
Probably? Want to provide something a little more credible to back up your
claim?
- 07-13-2008, 06:13 PM #44RonGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:03:42 -0600, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
>The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> >> Interesting- however, I seem to recall the first batch lost about 1/3
>> >> >> of their value in six weeks... ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> > no, the 8GB lost 20%, it went from $599, to $399 and everyone got $100
>> >> > back, so it dropped by $100, or 20%.
>> >>
>> >> Nobody got $100 back.
>> >
>> > actually, everyone that wanted it did...
>>
>> How many checks for $100 did Apple generate?
>
I know folks who used that $100 to pay for most the cost of Macintosh
OS X 10.5
Me, I'll wait till April when I'll be elligible for a $199 iPhone 3G,
and by then depending on rumors of the 2009 iPhone,
I might wait even more.
I like my Sony/ericcson 300i which was free after rebate,
which I stuffed with a 4 Gig Memory Card, and a Flint-phone
ring-tone; and I love my Garmin Nuvi 360. Worked great for me
2 weeks ago as I drove from East of Sacramento, CA;
all the way to Los Angeles, with a stop at San Simeon.
It found me a Hometown Buffet for Breakfast on June 29
in San Jose.
- 07-13-2008, 06:13 PM #45The BobGuest
Re: How much are used, unlocked, original iPhones going for now?
Oxford <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:[email protected]:
> The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Your answer makes no sense. You say they sent out lots of checks and
>> then talk about gift certificates. Oxtard clearly stated that people
>> got money back.
>>
>> So, let's try this again. How many checks did Apple send out?
>
> about 5, 600,000, it seems you are mistaking a check for a future
> purchase. everyone that owns an apple product is happy to get back
> $100 over the next few weeks.
>
So you are admitting that nobody got $100 back.
Thanks for playing, newbie.
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