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  1. #31
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    At 12 Jul 2008 21:15:12 -0500 The Bob wrote:

    > >>But they are not limited to 8 Gig of data because you can swap out the
    > >>card as many times as you want. How do you do that with an iPhone?

    > >
    > > Delete the existing music, load more music on instead.

    >
    > Or keep the music and put in a new card to get more. Or switch from a
    > music card to a movie card.
    >
    > >
    > > Not as convenient, but for most users, it does the trick.
    > >

    >
    > "Doing the trick" sounds more like settling for the limitations of a
    > device instead of having greater freedom to do what you really want.


    Six of one, half-dozen of the other, I guess... I use a 2GB Micro SD in my
    WinMo phone, and never swap it out (other than stick it in a reader to
    transfer files.)

    If my Tilt had 8GB or 16GB on board, I probably wouldn't bother with
    external storage.

    Obviously large internal storage PLUS an external slot would be the best of
    both worlds, but of the iPhone's solution (large internal memory, no
    external) or the solution of typical phones (little intenal memory,
    external slot), neither has a clear advantage, IMO- both fall short of the
    ideal.






    See More: The "REAL" reason to get an iPhone




  2. #32
    Ron
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    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:36:34 +0000 (UTC), Steve Sobol
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On 2008-07-12, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> ATT is the worst provider, except for all the others in the United
    >> States.

    >
    >Right. They did a bang-up job with all of the iPhone 3G activations that
    >first day, didn't they.




    Had too many activations; system couldnt keep up at first; same thing
    happened last year. Many stores are sold out already.

    http://www.apple.com/retail/iphone/a....html?state=TX



  3. #33
    Ron
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    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:38:21 +0000 (UTC), Steve Sobol
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On 2008-07-12, Steve Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On 2008-07-12, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> ATT is the worst provider, except for all the others in the United
    >>> States.

    >>
    >> Right. They did a bang-up job with all of the iPhone 3G activations that
    >> first day, didn't they.

    >
    >Oh, and Trollboi, lest we forget, you were complaining about AT&T not too
    >long after switching from Sprint...




    ATT will still be here in its current form a year from now, Sprint
    won't be.



  4. #34
    4phun
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    On Jul 12, 11:40*pm, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Oh, never mind, it doesn't play the DivX movies, anyways...


    A brain dead iPhone | iTunes user can easily convert DIVIX to the
    iPhone with the free Vidoria application and one or two clicks. I do
    it all the time. I have regular DVDs and such as well as downloaded
    DIVX converted for my iPhone.

    New DVDs come with an iPhone file already on them. You still don't get
    that type of support for Nokia or other wannabe touch cellphones. The
    left coast supports media for the iPhone only.



  5. #35
    anon
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    "Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In short, there are free phones with better features than the iPhone 3G.


    Worst attempt at trolling I've seen in years.



  6. #36
    anon
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    In article <[email protected]>,
    George <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Fanboi mentality at work. Some people don't have a life so they let some
    > gadget that anyone can buy define their life instead of actually
    > learning a skill etc.


    Translation: I can't afford an iPhone.



  7. #37
    The Bob
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    anon <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    news:[email protected]:

    > "Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> In short, there are free phones with better features than the iPhone
    >> 3G.

    >
    > Worst attempt at trolling I've seen in years.


    Why? It's the truth.



  8. #38
    The Bob
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    anon <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    news:[email protected]:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > George <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Fanboi mentality at work. Some people don't have a life so they let
    >> some gadget that anyone can buy define their life instead of actually
    >> learning a skill etc.

    >
    > Translation: I can't afford an iPhone.


    THe translation is more along the lines of: I wouldn't be caught dead with
    a teenagers iPod as my phone.



  9. #39
    Richard B. Gilbert
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    George wrote:
    > The Bob wrote:
    >> anon <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    >> news:[email protected]:
    >>> In article <[email protected]>,
    >>> George <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Fanboi mentality at work. Some people don't have a life so they let
    >>>> some gadget that anyone can buy define their life instead of actually
    >>>> learning a skill etc.
    >>> Translation: I can't afford an iPhone.

    >>
    >> THe translation is more along the lines of: I wouldn't be caught dead
    >> with a teenagers iPod as my phone.

    >
    > Exactly, why would a normal adult be envious of some electronic gadget
    > that pretty much anyone can buy?


    Or, why buy a new phone (and contract) when you already have a phone
    that does what you need!

    If you have a good reason to buy a new phone, the iPhone MAY be just
    what you need. OTOH, even if you need a new phone, the iPhone MAY be a
    poor choice for your needs.



  10. #40
    The Bob
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    "Richard B. Gilbert" <[email protected]> amazed us all with the
    following in news:[email protected]:

    > George wrote:
    >> The Bob wrote:
    >>> anon <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    >>> news:[email protected]:
    >>>> In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>> George <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Fanboi mentality at work. Some people don't have a life so they let
    >>>>> some gadget that anyone can buy define their life instead of actually
    >>>>> learning a skill etc.
    >>>> Translation: I can't afford an iPhone.
    >>>
    >>> THe translation is more along the lines of: I wouldn't be caught dead
    >>> with a teenagers iPod as my phone.

    >>
    >> Exactly, why would a normal adult be envious of some electronic gadget
    >> that pretty much anyone can buy?

    >
    > Or, why buy a new phone (and contract) when you already have a phone
    > that does what you need!


    This may be the best point made yet.


    >
    > If you have a good reason to buy a new phone, the iPhone MAY be just
    > what you need. OTOH, even if you need a new phone, the iPhone MAY be a
    > poor choice for your needs.
    >





  11. #41
    anon
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    George <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Exactly, why would a normal adult be envious of some electronic gadget
    > that pretty much anyone can buy?


    Spending so much time and energy whining about a product you despise?
    The transparency of the trolls jealousy is pretty obvious. A bit crazy,
    but truly real. For what other reason would you care about what
    smartphone/PDA we choose to use anyways?



  12. #42
    David Moyer
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

    > The Bob <[email protected]> wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    > > But they are not limited to 8 Gig of data because you can swap out the
    > > card as many times as you want. How do you do that with an iPhone?
    > >

    >
    > Anybody got a soldering gun with a tiny tip for these damned little
    > wires??....(c;


    if soldering is a little too advanced or you, you can always use butt
    crimp connectors.

    http://www.crowbarelectricalparts.co...Connectors.htm

    but since the battery in the iPhone 2 is even easier to replace, you
    wouldn't need them in 4 years or whenever the battery in the iPhone 1.0
    starts to fade.



  13. #43
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:5cca191a-85d4-4210-aac2-
    [email protected]:

    > You still don't get
    > that type of support for Nokia or other wannabe touch cellphones. The
    > left coast supports media for the iPhone only.
    >


    What kind of support do I need? I might be missing something!

    I download the movies from alt.binaries.movies.divx......

    I compress them further with the media converter JAVA the hackers wrote so
    it doesn't use so much memory on the little cards.......

    I copy the output 343KB files to the 16GB card

    I swap with the external card then play with mplayer full screen....

    What kind of support do I need to do such simple things??

    Do I need a nanny watching over my shoulder, too?




  14. #44
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.verizon.]
    On 2008-07-13, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:

    > ATT will still be here in its current form a year from now, Sprint
    > won't be.


    And your point is....?

    You're crowing about AT&T now, but back when you started with them, you were
    whining.


    --
    Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
    Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol




  15. #45
    Kevin Weaver
    Guest

    Re: The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

    Yeah those are going to fit inside the case alright.

    "David Moyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> The Bob <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> news:[email protected]:
    >>
    >> > But they are not limited to 8 Gig of data because you can swap out the
    >> > card as many times as you want. How do you do that with an iPhone?
    >> >

    >>
    >> Anybody got a soldering gun with a tiny tip for these damned little
    >> wires??....(c;

    >
    > if soldering is a little too advanced or you, you can always use butt
    > crimp connectors.
    >
    > http://www.crowbarelectricalparts.co...Connectors.htm
    >
    > but since the battery in the iPhone 2 is even easier to replace, you
    > wouldn't need them in 4 years or whenever the battery in the iPhone 1.0
    > starts to fade.





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