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- 07-13-2008, 10:17 PM #16David MoyerGuest
Re: European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before stores in the US even opened
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree! Open Source Apache for Linux is a fine server software.
>
> But, they need some more horsepower in the processors and bandwidth in the
> pipe if they're gonna keep doing stupid things like releasing an upgrade
> download on the same day as a new device.
>
> Someone at Apple IT should have been screaming bloody murder to stop it....
Apache is not related to Linux... every Mac ships with Apache and has
for YEARS...
The problem was too much demand, which a company like MS or BB would die
to have.
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- 07-13-2008, 10:25 PM #17LarryGuest
Re: European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before stores in the US even opened
David Moyer <[email protected]> wrote in
news:davmoy-76BB5A.22175813072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Leve
l3.net:
> Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I agree! Open Source Apache for Linux is a fine server software.
>>
>> But, they need some more horsepower in the processors and bandwidth
>> in the pipe if they're gonna keep doing stupid things like releasing
>> an upgrade download on the same day as a new device.
>>
>> Someone at Apple IT should have been screaming bloody murder to stop
>> it....
>
> Apache is not related to Linux... every Mac ships with Apache and has
> for YEARS...
>
> The problem was too much demand, which a company like MS or BB would
> die to have.
>
Please tell me they're not trying to run servers for the whole company on
Macs......are they?....(c;
- 07-13-2008, 10:33 PM #18nospamGuest
Re: European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before stores in the US even opened
In article <[email protected]>, Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:
> nospam <[email protected]> wrote in news:130720082027246011%
> [email protected]lid:
>
> > it quite clearly says 'darwin' which is the open source kernel of mac
> > os x. the hardware are apple xserve rack mount computers, and they're
> > all running mac os x server.
>
> Wow! Where does Apple sell servers? I've never seen one. All they have
> here are little desktop and laptops.
any mac can run mac os x server, although apple has rack mount hardware
that's better suited for high demand installations. for home or small
business, a mac mini is often sufficient.
also, the consumer version of os x includes things such as apache and
vpn, they just need to be enabled and configured.
> Is there a URL where one can read about Apple server platforms??
i provided two in the previous post, one of which is included below.
<http://www.apple.com/xserve/>
<http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/>
- 07-13-2008, 11:24 PM #19LarryGuest
Re: European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before stores in the US even opened
nospam <[email protected]> wrote in news:130720082133102731%
[email protected]lid:
> http://www.apple.com/xserve/
Hmm...I see. Well, obviously, it wasn't enough....(c;
I pictured someone as large as Apple with something like:
http://www.emc.com/solutions/index.htm
using storage solutions like:
http://www.emc.com/products/family/symmetrix-family.htm
15000 RPM disk drives are not fast enough so:
" Availability
EMC plans to offer flash drives in 73 GB and 146 GB capacities for the
Symmetrix DMX-4 platform beginning later in Q1 2008."
which are 30 times faster....
I have a friend who is a field service engineer for EMC, here. What an
amazing combination of hardware and software solutions they have....
....and it's mostly transparent to the end user if it bombs. The master
processor simply takes out of service whatever massive memory board or
drive has errors, calls EMC on its own phone line telling EMC's
dispatching computer what's wrong and where and what parts need
swapping. My friend's pager goes off as the core processor makes a
trouble ticket all without human intervention. He gets the trouble
ticket over the sellphone data circuits because he lives on the road,
drops by one of their prepositioned warehouses to pick up the part or
has it directly delivered overnight to the site. He shows up, opens the
box, hotswaps the parts then hangs around until the box's core computer
is happy with the new device and cancels the trouble ticket, itself.
It's a good thing computers aren't allowed to drive......
.....humans still have some, small but significant use to them.
Oh I wanted that super fast 100,000 RPM IBM drive he let me hold in my
hot, grubby, sweaty hands for a few minutes.....(c;
You should hear its faint, nearly inaudible, whine as it powers up....
(pant)
- 07-14-2008, 01:02 AM #20DevilsPGDGuest
Re: European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before stores in the US even opened
In message <[email protected]> Ron
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Made even more amazing by Inventory originally intended for Canada
>having been shipped onto Europe, after Steve Jobs got pissed at Rogers
>pricing schemes.
Thanks to that little temper tantrum, we now have better rates then the
US, $30 for 6GB, vs AT&T's "unlimited" with a 5GB cap.
And not just for Apple users either, although only for Rogers' own 3G
phones, sadly my imported TyTN II doesn't qualify even through Rogers'
TyTN does. I could fight it, but it's less hassle to just grab an
iPhone and move the SIM.
- 07-14-2008, 10:15 AM #21OxfordGuest
Re: European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before stores in the US even opened
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> Please tell me they're not trying to run servers for the whole company on
> Macs......are they?....(c;
apple primarily uses Sun Sparcs and their own Xserves... these run
Solaris, OSX and a bit of Linux on macs or sparcs.
you can always figure out what a site is running here:
http://netcraft.com/
and a search for apple.com shows much of the main list... but be aware
than "anything" with "apple" in the domain... shows up on this link:
http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?posit...host=apple.com
- 07-14-2008, 12:32 PM #22OxfordGuest
Re: European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before stores in the US even opened
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> Wow! Where does Apple sell servers? I've never seen one. All they have
> here are little desktop and laptops.
>
> Is there a URL where one can read about Apple server platforms??
larry, you make everyone laugh at your simple world view.
Apple has sold high powered servers for decades, and as recently as 4
years ago had the 3rd fastest computer in the world using them.
Apple's big boy toys can be found here:
http://www.apple.com/xserve/
http://www.apple.com/xserve/technolo...hitecture.html
http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/colsa/
- 07-14-2008, 07:08 PM #23LarryGuest
Re: European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before stores in the US even opened
Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:apony-BA2D3E.12325514072008
@news.qwest.net:
> http://www.apple.com/xserve/technolo...hitecture.html
Now I'm even more confused. It talks about PCI bus, Ethernets, Firewire?,
USB??
This is like an office server to feed the Macs and printers....
I was looking for a serious Gigabit server like what I HOPE Apple is using
to feed the world access to the permission box to turn on the damned
FruitFones. These gadgets don't have ethernet ports, you plug Gigabit
fiber into them....Gigabits per second.....
Here's an example, for those stuck with desktops on their brains.....
http://www.hyperconnectivity.com/
http://www.nortel.com/
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