For whiners about Apple's iPhone battery

> "Ron" wrote:
> For anti-Apple droids here who claim the battery life in an iPhone is
> too short for them and thats their deal breaker or should be yours.
> Just buy a $27 external battery back. More than one if you need?
> http://www.calcellular.com/iphone-batkit.html

Why should I?

Apple had the knowledge to do it right after their first screw-up - ADD A
DAMN BATTERY COMPARTMENT!

But no. You need to send the toy in.

Opps! Did I say "toy?" - as in it's life expectancy is only one year
anyhoo. There will be another on the horizon in another year.

Guess it doesn't make any sense to add a "user-serviceable battery" in the
toy after all.

B~

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B. Peg wrote:
>> "Ron" wrote:
>> For anti-Apple droids here who claim the battery life in an iPhone is
>> too short for them and thats their deal breaker or should be yours.
>> Just buy a $27 external battery back. More than one if you need?
>> http://www.calcellular.com/iphone-batkit.html
>
> Why should I?
>
> Apple had the knowledge to do it right after their first screw-up - ADD A
> DAMN BATTERY COMPARTMENT!
>
> But no. You need to send the toy in.
>
> Opps! Did I say "toy?" - as in it's life expectancy is only one year
> anyhoo. There will be another on the horizon in another year.

I've had mine for over a year and it's still going strong. LiIons have a
longer life than a year. The one in my laptop is going on 3 years and
it's fine too.

"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> For anti-Apple droids here who claim the battery life in an iPhone is
> too short for them and thats their deal breaker or should be yours.
>
> Just buy a $27 external battery back. More than one if you need?
>
You actually haven't read the posts about the battery issue or you wouldn't
have posted this. This has been addressed. I suggest you go back and read
them and then try not to feel embarrassed.

Beer Drinking Dog wrote:
> B. Peg wrote:
>>> "Ron" wrote:
>>> For anti-Apple droids here who claim the battery life in an iPhone
>>> is too short for them and thats their deal breaker or should be
>>> yours. Just buy a $27 external battery back. More than one if you
>>> need? http://www.calcellular.com/iphone-batkit.html
>>
>> Why should I?
>>
>> Apple had the knowledge to do it right after their first screw-up -
>> ADD A DAMN BATTERY COMPARTMENT!
>>
>> But no. You need to send the toy in.
>>
>> Opps! Did I say "toy?" - as in it's life expectancy is only one year
>> anyhoo. There will be another on the horizon in another year.
>
> I've had mine for over a year and it's still going strong. LiIons
> have a longer life than a year. The one in my laptop is going on 3
> years and it's fine too.
>
How long the batteries LIVE is not the issue. You've participated in the
posts about the battery so I don't get you on this. How long they last in a
DAY is the issue.

Carl wrote:
> Beer Drinking Dog wrote:
>> B. Peg wrote:
>>>> "Ron" wrote:
>>>> For anti-Apple droids here who claim the battery life in an iPhone
>>>> is too short for them and thats their deal breaker or should be
>>>> yours. Just buy a $27 external battery back. More than one if you
>>>> need? http://www.calcellular.com/iphone-batkit.html
>>> Why should I?
>>>
>>> Apple had the knowledge to do it right after their first screw-up -
>>> ADD A DAMN BATTERY COMPARTMENT!
>>>
>>> But no. You need to send the toy in.
>>>
>>> Opps! Did I say "toy?" - as in it's life expectancy is only one year
>>> anyhoo. There will be another on the horizon in another year.
>> I've had mine for over a year and it's still going strong. LiIons
>> have a longer life than a year. The one in my laptop is going on 3
>> years and it's fine too.
>>
> How long the batteries LIVE is not the issue. You've participated in the
> posts about the battery so I don't get you on this. How long they last in a
> DAY is the issue.

You got it wrong friend. I've participated in some other conversations
here, but nothing about batteries. I might have commented in longer
threads that discussed batteries, but my comments haven't been specific
to batteries until now.

And my comment here was directly related to the claim B. Peg made about
"it's life expectancy is only one year anyhoo." Granted he was talking
about the phone itself, but the overall thread was about it lacking a
battery compartment. I'm just saying that if the phone still works after
a year, and you don't need the "latest and greatest model" and the
battery still works as good as when you got it, what's the big deal
about having a replaceable battery?

I suppose all of you replaceable battery advocates drive around in cars
with replaceable gas tanks too? No you don't. You just fill them up when
you need to. Same thing applies here.

As for how long it lasts in a DAY: Personally, I've had my gen 1 iPhone
play a movie and several lengthy podcasts on a Phoenix to Philly
airplane flight. I've sat in a Phoenix courthouse from 9:00 am to 4:30
pm on jury duty (waiting, didn't get picked) and the phone lasted the
whole day e-mailing friends and listening to podcasts. I was
hospitalized in March for a week (Thursday to Thursday). Used the phone
to send text messages to friends and relatives on my progress. Listened
to a few podcasts, and took several calls. Charged it only once on the
Wednesday before coming home.

No, the battery charge doesn't last forever, but it lasts longer than
the BlackBerry (with replaceable batteries...) issued to me from my
employer. And it seems to charge much faster as well.

"Carl" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> How long the batteries LIVE is not the issue. You've participated in
> the posts about the battery so I don't get you on this. How long they
> last in a DAY is the issue.
>
>

For you N800 guys, Walmart wants too much for a 2nd battery:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5425100

http://www.pricegrabber.com/user_sal...sterid=8509352
&lot_id=7395788
I bought mine cheap from this guy. They are real OEM batteries, but are
good pullouts for a lot less money. The 3 I got had been in a phone as
you can see the marks on the contacts, but the batteries are in fine
condition and one cycle in my charger below brought them back up great.
They even came fully charged, probably from the seller's battery tester.

USPS shipping was about $4 bringing it here for under $20, not $45 at
Wally World.

I play a lot of movies and stream TV from WorldTV99's playlist in
KMplayer/mplayer at high bit rates. This eats the N800 at full display
brightness and loud audio in about 4-5 hours. Just kick out the dead
horse and pop in the new one and we're back online for the rest of the
day...charging the dead horse back up in the drop-in charger in the car
upon arrival.

I also bought 5 of these at $2/each from the UK:
http://tinyurl.com/6mubwd

http://cgi.ebay.com/DESKTOP-BATTERY-...L-E61-N92-9500
_W0QQitemZ120283559161QQihZ002QQcategoryZ20368QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQc
mdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122

They charge the battery, then when the battery's onboard IC says full,
shut down completely dousing the light to tell you it's charged. Even
on the car cord, they charge the battery back up in about 1.5 hours from
dead.

The spare battery charges from any of my N800 charging cords, AC or DC,
in the car or on my desk while I'm off with the other one. Using these,
and they ARE so cheap, you never have to actually charge the tablet at
all on its tether.

Solutions not excuses....(c;

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:35:07 -0400, "Carl"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> For anti-Apple droids here who claim the battery life in an iPhone is
>> too short for them and thats their deal breaker or should be yours.
>>
>> Just buy a $27 external battery back. More than one if you need?
>>
>You actually haven't read the posts about the battery issue or you wouldn't
>have posted this. This has been addressed. I suggest you go back and read
>them and then try not to feel embarrassed.
>

Its the Nokia fanbois that need to feel embarressed talking down a
GREAT product like the iPhone 3G, that sold 1 million in 3 days.

At 16 Jul 2008 00:13:47 -0600 DevilsPGD wrote:

> Okay, so say that the iPhone had a user changeable battery, do you
> honestly think you could buy a replacement for $27?


If you were willing to accept a no-name Honk Kong battery, yes. A double
capacity batery for my Tilt (with dedicated charger and "camel hump"
battery cover to accomodate the extra size) cost me $15.

While such a battery will turn my brick of a Tilt into a cinder-block, I
like the high-cap batteries for use while traveling when access to a
charger isn't always convenient. I switch back to the standard battery
when home.

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:55:24 -0600, Todd Allcock
<[email protected]> wrote:

>At 16 Jul 2008 00:13:47 -0600 DevilsPGD wrote:
>
>> Okay, so say that the iPhone had a user changeable battery, do you
>> honestly think you could buy a replacement for $27?
>
>
>If you were willing to accept a no-name Honk Kong battery, yes. A double
>capacity batery for my Tilt (with dedicated charger and "camel hump"
>battery cover to accomodate the extra size) cost me $15.
>
>While such a battery will turn my brick of a Tilt into a cinder-block, I
>like the high-cap batteries for use while traveling when access to a
>charger isn't always convenient. I switch back to the standard battery
>when home.
>
>

OK - on Ebay other External Batteries for the iPhone are available,
and typically sell for under $10

Originally Posted by Carl

"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> For anti-Apple droids here who claim the battery life in an iPhone is
> too short for them and thats their deal breaker or should be yours.
>
> Just buy a $27 external battery back. More than one if you need?
>
You actually haven't read the posts about the battery issue or you wouldn't
have posted this. This has been addressed. I suggest you go back and read
them and then try not to feel embarrassed.

The only people who should feel embarrass are the people who fell for the iphone and especially the 3G iPhone, why should apple iPhone customers have to rely on after market and/or accessaries to improve their phones performance.

The iPhone forums are talking about shutting down apps and doing others alterations to compensate for a battery fault. So one's solution for a weak standard battery after paying for a iPhone and data plan, minutes, and other extras... is to purchase a extended battery. So pay extra money to take away the slimness/appearance of the phone in order to use all the features of the iPhone 3G... now that's embarrassing.

"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:35:07 -0400, "Carl"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> For anti-Apple droids here who claim the battery life in an iPhone is
>>> too short for them and thats their deal breaker or should be yours.
>>>
>>> Just buy a $27 external battery back. More than one if you need?
>>>
>>You actually haven't read the posts about the battery issue or you
>>wouldn't
>>have posted this. This has been addressed. I suggest you go back and read
>>them and then try not to feel embarrassed.
>>
>
> Its the Nokia fanbois that need to feel embarressed talking down a
> GREAT product like the iPhone 3G, that sold 1 million in 3 days.

I don't have an iphone or Nokia phone, but it seems to me that Apple does
everything it can to front load it's iphone sales, so it looks impressive
for "three days", but somehow overall, I don't think there is any comparison
to the volume of phones sold by Nokia

Beer Drinking Dog wrote:
> Carl wrote:
>> Beer Drinking Dog wrote:
>>> B. Peg wrote:
>>>>> "Ron" wrote:
>>>>> For anti-Apple droids here who claim the battery life in an iPhone
>>>>> is too short for them and thats their deal breaker or should be
>>>>> yours. Just buy a $27 external battery back. More than one if you
>>>>> need? http://www.calcellular.com/iphone-batkit.html
>>>> Why should I?
>>>>
>>>> Apple had the knowledge to do it right after their first screw-up -
>>>> ADD A DAMN BATTERY COMPARTMENT!
>>>>
>>>> But no. You need to send the toy in.
>>>>
>>>> Opps! Did I say "toy?" - as in it's life expectancy is only one
>>>> year anyhoo. There will be another on the horizon in another year.
>>> I've had mine for over a year and it's still going strong. LiIons
>>> have a longer life than a year. The one in my laptop is going on 3
>>> years and it's fine too.
>>>
>> How long the batteries LIVE is not the issue. You've participated in
>> the posts about the battery so I don't get you on this. How long
>> they last in a DAY is the issue.
>
> You got it wrong friend. I've participated in some other conversations
> here, but nothing about batteries. I might have commented in longer
> threads that discussed batteries, but my comments haven't been
> specific to batteries until now.
>
I reviewed all the posts. You're right. I owe you an apology. So here it is,
as public as was the slight.

Just so you know, there was raging thread on the daily battery life of an
iPhone battery. I believe that's what the OP was referring to though there
was a reference to the phone lasting a year, I don't believe that was
connected to the battery-life issue.

RBM wrote:
>
> I don't have an iphone or Nokia phone, but it seems to me that Apple does
> everything it can to front load it's iphone sales, so it looks impressive
> for "three days", but somehow overall, I don't think there is any comparison
> to the volume of phones sold by Nokia

Interesting point.

Apple's been in the cellular phone business for only a couple years and
has had all of TWO products on the market for only a little over a year.
And most of that time they only sold in the US and a select few other
countries.

Nokia's been selling mobile phones and various communications devices
since the mid-1960's. And they sell in about every country in the world.
I can't find exact numbers, but they have to have sold hundreds of
millions of units since then.

Carl wrote:
> Beer Drinking Dog wrote:
>> Carl wrote:
>>> Beer Drinking Dog wrote:
>>>> B. Peg wrote:
>>>>>> "Ron" wrote:
>>>>>> For anti-Apple droids here who claim the battery life in an iPhone
>>>>>> is too short for them and thats their deal breaker or should be
>>>>>> yours. Just buy a $27 external battery back. More than one if you
>>>>>> need? http://www.calcellular.com/iphone-batkit.html
>>>>> Why should I?
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple had the knowledge to do it right after their first screw-up -
>>>>> ADD A DAMN BATTERY COMPARTMENT!
>>>>>
>>>>> But no. You need to send the toy in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Opps! Did I say "toy?" - as in it's life expectancy is only one
>>>>> year anyhoo. There will be another on the horizon in another year.
>>>> I've had mine for over a year and it's still going strong. LiIons
>>>> have a longer life than a year. The one in my laptop is going on 3
>>>> years and it's fine too.
>>>>
>>> How long the batteries LIVE is not the issue. You've participated in
>>> the posts about the battery so I don't get you on this. How long
>>> they last in a DAY is the issue.
>> You got it wrong friend. I've participated in some other conversations
>> here, but nothing about batteries. I might have commented in longer
>> threads that discussed batteries, but my comments haven't been
>> specific to batteries until now.
>>
> I reviewed all the posts. You're right. I owe you an apology. So here it is,
> as public as was the slight.
>
> Just so you know, there was raging thread on the daily battery life of an
> iPhone battery. I believe that's what the OP was referring to though there
> was a reference to the phone lasting a year, I don't believe that was
> connected to the battery-life issue.

Graciously accepted. Thank you. Maybe this newsgroup isn't so bad after all.

"anonymousNetUser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> RBM wrote:
>>
>> I don't have an iphone or Nokia phone, but it seems to me that Apple does
>> everything it can to front load it's iphone sales, so it looks impressive
>> for "three days", but somehow overall, I don't think there is any
>> comparison to the volume of phones sold by Nokia
>
> Interesting point.
>
> Apple's been in the cellular phone business for only a couple years and
> has had all of TWO products on the market for only a little over a year.
> And most of that time they only sold in the US and a select few other
> countries.
>
> Nokia's been selling mobile phones and various communications devices
> since the mid-1960's. And they sell in about every country in the world. I
> can't find exact numbers, but they have to have sold hundreds of millions
> of units since then.

That's very true and fantastic for apple, and I hope they sell phones to
more than just the same folks that bought the first models. I just question
you blind fanbois, who have this deranged attitude that the iphone is going
to take over the world and put EVERY other phone maker out of business, when
in fact they sell a niche product, which is attractive to a small percent of
the 11% of cell users that buy smart phones