iPhone/Touch and MS Outlook update

Apparently, though denying for a long time that iPhone/Touch/iTunes were at
fault with their poor and often total inability to sync with MS Outlook, a
fix, or at least in my experience a partial fix, was incorporated in iTunes
7.7.1.

I can now sync my Touch with Outlook (2002) from my PC to the device. Yay!

Now, if they'd only figure out how to get it to work device to pc, I'd be
thrilled. But, of course, they'll remain in denial publicly about that for a
couple of months I guess. What's with Apple and their ability to acknowledge
an issue head on?

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Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Carl said:

> Now, if they'd only figure out how to get it to work device to pc, I'd be
> thrilled. But, of course, they'll remain in denial publicly about that for a
> couple of months I guess. What's with Apple and their ability to acknowledge
> an issue head on?

Calendar entries? It is there, just not visible in the Day/Week/Month
view. If you view the calendar by category, you can find them in the
"Not Categorized" category.

On the iPhone/Touch, create (edit for existing items) to repeat daily
and they'll show up in Outlook main calendar views. You can have the
repeat expire on the same date as the item is for.

iPhone/Touch doesn't support categories, so anything created there will
still be "Not Categorized" in Outlook.

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In message <[email protected]> Jeffrey
Kaplan <[email protected]> wrote:

>iPhone/Touch doesn't support categories, so anything created there will
>still be "Not Categorized" in Outlook.

Personally, I'm holding out for PocketInformant for iPhone/Touch.

Previously on alt.cellular.attws, DevilsPGD said:

> In message <[email protected]> Jeffrey
> Kaplan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >iPhone/Touch doesn't support categories, so anything created there will
> >still be "Not Categorized" in Outlook.
>
> Personally, I'm holding out for PocketInformant for iPhone/Touch.

I want DateBk6!

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Jeffrey Kaplan <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>> Personally, I'm holding out for PocketInformant for iPhone/Touch.
>
> I want DateBk6!
>
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>

I'm holding out for the Nokia N820!

Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Carl said:
>
>> Now, if they'd only figure out how to get it to work device to pc,
>> I'd be thrilled. But, of course, they'll remain in denial publicly
>> about that for a couple of months I guess. What's with Apple and
>> their ability to acknowledge an issue head on?
>
> Calendar entries? It is there, just not visible in the Day/Week/Month
> view. If you view the calendar by category, you can find them in the
> "Not Categorized" category.
>
> On the iPhone/Touch, create (edit for existing items) to repeat daily
> and they'll show up in Outlook main calendar views. You can have the
> repeat expire on the same date as the item is for.
>
> iPhone/Touch doesn't support categories, so anything created there
> will still be "Not Categorized" in Outlook.
>
Jeffrey, I thank you for this advice. You are correct. However, knowing this
doesn't help someone who wants to actually use the Outlook calendar.

The good news is that, as I've posted elsewhere, the problem seems to have
been addressed in the iTunes upgrade 7.7.1 which was introduced last week.
I don't know if the new 2.0.1 OS upgrade helps address this in any way, but
it sure didn't hurt.

My Touch seems a lot more functional to me now. I'll be testing it some more
over the next couple of weeks to see if it works consistently.

Thanks for your informative post.

Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Carl said:

> Jeffrey, I thank you for this advice. You are correct. However, knowing this
> doesn't help someone who wants to actually use the Outlook calendar.

Sure it does. Just create or edit the calendar entries created on the
iPhone/Touch as I indicated and they'll show up properly in Outlook's
Day/Week/Month view. I have not had any problems with syncing entries
created in Outlook.

> The good news is that, as I've posted elsewhere, the problem seems to have
> been addressed in the iTunes upgrade 7.7.1 which was introduced last week.

iTunes 7.7.1 did not address this, at least for me. I was already
using 7.7.1 when I first created a calendar entry on the iPhone.

> I don't know if the new 2.0.1 OS upgrade helps address this in any way, but
> it sure didn't hurt.

I did this update today, and I think it did. A quick test entry set
for tomorrow without any repeats did show up in the Month view. It did
have an alert set, I have not yet tested for no-repeats/no-alerts.

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Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Carl said:

> > I did this update today, and I think it did. A quick test entry set
> > for tomorrow without any repeats did show up in the Month view. It
> > did have an alert set, I have not yet tested for no-repeats/no-alerts.
> >
> Well, it seems to be a moot point now, but we disagree. While your
> "solution" works, it adds several steps to adding an entry on the device,
> making it somewhat inconvenient. Work-arounds are not "fixes" but only
> patches. I don't know about you, but I expect my $300+ things to work the
> way they're supposed to work.

You seem to be responding to messages you are not quoting. Please
re-read what I wrote, that you quoted above.

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Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Carl said:
>
>>> I did this update today, and I think it did. A quick test entry set
>>> for tomorrow without any repeats did show up in the Month view. It
>>> did have an alert set, I have not yet tested for
>>> no-repeats/no-alerts.
>>>
>> Well, it seems to be a moot point now, but we disagree. While your
>> "solution" works, it adds several steps to adding an entry on the
>> device, making it somewhat inconvenient. Work-arounds are not
>> "fixes" but only patches. I don't know about you, but I expect my
>> $300+ things to work the way they're supposed to work.
>
> You seem to be responding to messages you are not quoting. Please
> re-read what I wrote, that you quoted above.
>
You have a (partial) point. I may have been in a hurry and failed to see
your last paragraph, but I wasn't totally off base. I was responding to
this part of your post:
>
> Sure it does. Just create or edit the calendar entries created on the
> iPhone/Touch as I indicated and they'll show up properly in Outlook's
> Day/Week/Month view. I have not had any problems with syncing entries
> created in Outlook.
>
which I believe came from the same post, judged by the single carats before
each line and was quoted in my response.

So I'll plead guilty with an explanation your honor for the general error...
:-)

Anyway, hoping I'm now responding to the right thing, I'm glad your initial
experiments showed the updates improved the situation. Now if Apple would
allow Notes and Tasks syncing, it might actually have a useful product for
me. It is, undoubtedly, a fun device though- I'll grant it that.

Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Carl said:

> > You seem to be responding to messages you are not quoting. Please
> > re-read what I wrote, that you quoted above.
> >
> You have a (partial) point. I may have been in a hurry and failed to see
> your last paragraph, but I wasn't totally off base. I was responding to
> this part of your post:
> >
> > Sure it does. Just create or edit the calendar entries created on the
> > iPhone/Touch as I indicated and they'll show up properly in Outlook's
> > Day/Week/Month view. I have not had any problems with syncing entries
> > created in Outlook.
> >
> which I believe came from the same post, judged by the single carats before
> each line and was quoted in my response.

That part was itself quoted from a prior message, which I was
responding to with an update. That fact that I may have written both
is irrelevant.

> Anyway, hoping I'm now responding to the right thing, I'm glad your initial
> experiments showed the updates improved the situation. Now if Apple would
> allow Notes and Tasks syncing, it might actually have a useful product for
> me. It is, undoubtedly, a fun device though- I'll grant it that.

Despite Apple's claims, I would not classify the iPhone as a serious
tool for business/enterprise users. It is lacking several basic
features found by default in the other three platforms (Notes that sync
to Outlook, ToDo/Tasks at all, categories for Calendar and Contacts,
others). Some can be "worked around" via installable apps, but not
all, and should be there by default to be considered a business tool.

As it stands now, this is a consumer level device that can be adapted
to some business use.

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"imminent" death, but will instead (finding a vantage point or
monitoring camera) stick around and enjoy watching my adversary's
demise.

Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Carl said:
>
>>> You seem to be responding to messages you are not quoting. Please
>>> re-read what I wrote, that you quoted above.
>>>
>> You have a (partial) point. I may have been in a hurry and failed to
>> see your last paragraph, but I wasn't totally off base. I was
>> responding to this part of your post:
>>>
>>> Sure it does. Just create or edit the calendar entries created on
>>> the iPhone/Touch as I indicated and they'll show up properly in
>>> Outlook's Day/Week/Month view. I have not had any problems with
>>> syncing entries created in Outlook.
>>>
>> which I believe came from the same post, judged by the single carats
>> before each line and was quoted in my response.
>
> That part was itself quoted from a prior message, which I was
> responding to with an update. That fact that I may have written both
> is irrelevant.
>
>> Anyway, hoping I'm now responding to the right thing, I'm glad your
>> initial experiments showed the updates improved the situation. Now
>> if Apple would allow Notes and Tasks syncing, it might actually have
>> a useful product for me. It is, undoubtedly, a fun device though-
>> I'll grant it that.
>
> Despite Apple's claims, I would not classify the iPhone as a serious
> tool for business/enterprise users. It is lacking several basic
> features found by default in the other three platforms (Notes that
> sync to Outlook, ToDo/Tasks at all, categories for Calendar and
> Contacts, others). Some can be "worked around" via installable apps,
> but not all, and should be there by default to be considered a
> business tool.
>
> As it stands now, this is a consumer level device that can be adapted
> to some business use.
>
And now we are in 100% agreement. Your last paragraph says it all.