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  1. #1
    Ron
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    60 million downloads in first month

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc

    If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
    per year before long.



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  2. #2
    Kevin Weaver
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    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone


    "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > 60 million downloads in first month
    >
    > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
    >
    > If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
    > per year before long.


    And how many of those were paid apps ? Or were all those the free flashlight
    apps. All iPhones should have at a min of 5 flashlights installed on every
    single one. Can't get enough of them.




  3. #3
    Ron
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    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone

    On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:22:59 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> 60 million downloads in first month
    >>
    >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
    >>
    >> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
    >> per year before long.

    >
    >And how many of those were paid apps ? Or were all those the free flashlight
    >apps. All iPhones should have at a min of 5 flashlights installed on every
    >single one. Can't get enough of them.




    Yoiu might could try reading the story instead of looking for excuses
    to critize Apple. A month ago you were complaining of lack of
    applications for the iPhone. Now there are apps, some free, some
    selling very well, and still you complain.



  4. #4
    Kevin Weaver
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    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone


    "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:22:59 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]...
    >>>
    >>> 60 million downloads in first month
    >>>
    >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
    >>>
    >>> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
    >>> per year before long.

    >>
    >>And how many of those were paid apps ? Or were all those the free
    >>flashlight
    >>apps. All iPhones should have at a min of 5 flashlights installed on every
    >>single one. Can't get enough of them.

    >
    >
    >
    > Yoiu might could try reading the story instead of looking for excuses
    > to critize Apple. A month ago you were complaining of lack of
    > applications for the iPhone. Now there are apps, some free, some
    > selling very well, and still you complain.


    Correct. When they repeat the same app over and over again. Like I said,
    can't get enough of them flashlight apps.

    Maybe I should get one to see how many of them Flashlights I can load onto
    it. muhahaha.




  5. #5
    Oxford
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    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone

    Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Not complain, really, but just relishing the irony- when fanbois like
    > Oxford defended the lack of installable apps a year ago, they loved
    > pointing out how the majority of the TENS of thousands of aps available for
    > other platforms were essentially worthless (which, frankly, is very true.)


    i knew you would come around to my point of view it was only a matter
    of time...



  6. #6
    Kevin Weaver
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    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone


    "Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Not complain, really, but just relishing the irony- when fanbois like
    >> Oxford defended the lack of installable apps a year ago, they loved
    >> pointing out how the majority of the TENS of thousands of aps available
    >> for
    >> other platforms were essentially worthless (which, frankly, is very
    >> true.)

    >
    > i knew you would come around to my point of view it was only a matter
    > of time...


    Clueless = Oxturd.




  7. #7
    4phun
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    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone

    On Aug 11, 8:01*am, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
    > 60 million downloads in first month
    >
    > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
    >
    > If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
    > per year before long.


    Apple sold 3 million 3G iPhones from July 11 to August. The iPhone has
    stunned onlookers in being a smash hit even in Japan where anti Apple
    pundits said it would never sell against more sophisticated phones.
    This is creating huge shock waves in the highly competitive Japanese
    telecom industry. The non iPhone carriers lost net customers to the
    iPhone carrier for the first time in Japanese history. Go figure.

    Now investors are worried that Apple will not be physically able to
    meet demand in the Global market this year which will affect all
    carriers in some way. It is the patented interface that is killing the
    competition. People just don't care that the iPhone is missing some
    feature found in another phone, they want the iPhone for themselves.
    Some even carry two phones just to be able to have the iPhone in
    Japan. They don't seem to care that is a little odd.





  8. #8
    Carl
    Guest

    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone

    Kevin Weaver wrote:
    > "Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Not complain, really, but just relishing the irony- when fanbois
    >>> like Oxford defended the lack of installable apps a year ago, they
    >>> loved pointing out how the majority of the TENS of thousands of aps
    >>> available for
    >>> other platforms were essentially worthless (which, frankly, is very
    >>> true.)

    >>
    >> i knew you would come around to my point of view it was only a
    >> matter of time...

    >
    > Clueless = Oxturd.
    >

    I think he was being facetious here Kevin (which would demonstrate a good sense of humor), but maybe it's me who got beat on that assumption...? :-)




  9. #9
    Carl
    Guest

    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone

    Todd Allcock wrote:
    > At 11 Aug 2008 21:44:50 -0600 Oxford wrote:
    >>> when fanbois like
    >>> Oxford defended the lack of installable apps a year ago, they loved
    >>> pointing out how the majority of the TENS of thousands of aps
    >>> available for other platforms were essentially worthless (which,
    >>> frankly, is very true.)

    >>
    >> i knew you would come around to my point of view it was only a
    >> matter of time...

    >
    >
    > What's the old joke, Ox? Even a broken clock is right twice a day?
    >
    >
    > The difference between you and I is that I don't ignore or deny the
    > flaws in the products and platforms I use. No product is perfect or
    > the right one for everyone. Yet you spin every flaw in your precious
    > iPhone as either an advantage ("flash eats batteries") or unnecessary
    > ("you don't need cut and paste, data just flows between apps.")
    >

    "The difference between you and ME" would be correct here Todd, "between"
    being a preposition. Being that I have nothing productive to add to this
    thread, but feel like typing just to see myself talk, I thought I'd sit
    around and look for grammatical errors to correct. :-)





  10. #10
    Carl
    Guest

    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone

    4phun wrote:
    > On Aug 11, 8:01 am, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> 60 million downloads in first month
    >>
    >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
    >>
    >> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
    >> per year before long.

    >
    > Apple sold 3 million 3G iPhones from July 11 to August. The iPhone has
    > stunned onlookers in being a smash hit even in Japan where anti Apple
    > pundits said it would never sell against more sophisticated phones.
    > This is creating huge shock waves in the highly competitive Japanese
    > telecom industry. The non iPhone carriers lost net customers to the
    > iPhone carrier for the first time in Japanese history. Go figure.
    >
    > Now investors are worried that Apple will not be physically able to
    > meet demand in the Global market this year which will affect all
    > carriers in some way. It is the patented interface that is killing the
    > competition. People just don't care that the iPhone is missing some
    > feature found in another phone, they want the iPhone for themselves.
    > Some even carry two phones just to be able to have the iPhone in
    > Japan. They don't seem to care that is a little odd.
    >

    Why not resolve this the way I did, by getting a Touch instead? Why two
    phones which is, by many standards, a "little odd"?





  11. #11
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone

    At 12 Aug 2008 08:55:33 -0400 Carl wrote:

    > > The difference between you and I is that I don't ignore or deny the
    > > flaws in the products and platforms I use. No product is perfect or
    > > the right one for everyone. Yet you spin every flaw in your precious
    > > iPhone as either an advantage ("flash eats batteries") or unnecessary
    > > ("you don't need cut and paste, data just flows between apps.")
    > >

    > "The difference between you and ME" would be correct here Todd, "between"
    > being a preposition. Being that I have nothing productive to add to this
    > thread, but feel like typing just to see myself talk, I thought I'd sit
    > around and look for grammatical errors to correct. :-)



    Then you should certainly have a field day with my postings! ;-)






  12. #12
    Carl
    Guest

    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone

    Ron wrote:
    > On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:22:59 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>>
    >>> 60 million downloads in first month
    >>>
    >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
    >>>
    >>> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1
    >>> Billion per year before long.

    >>
    >> And how many of those were paid apps ? Or were all those the free
    >> flashlight apps. All iPhones should have at a min of 5 flashlights
    >> installed on every single one. Can't get enough of them.

    >
    >
    >
    > Yoiu might could try reading the story instead of looking for excuses
    > to critize Apple. A month ago you were complaining of lack of
    > applications for the iPhone. Now there are apps, some free, some
    > selling very well, and still you complain.
    >

    Really though, a large, large number of them are not truly useful and way
    too many of them are games. I would estimate that about 22 of the top 25
    downloads are games. This may say something about who the iPhone is
    appealing to. However, I can't say that there aren't a number of reasonably
    useful apps available. There are a few. Too few. None of the many task
    managers, for example, tackle the challenge of syncing with MS Outlook, but
    all assume that task-managing is a new idea for iPhone users. No one has
    accepted the challenge of getting the iPhone/Touch to PRINT, something which
    caused my office staff to reject it as a viable adjunct to our wifi desktop
    system.

    None of this is to say that 60B downloads isn't great for Apple as a
    business entity, and certainly points to the iPhone/Touch and the App Store
    as huge successes. But who are they appealing to? Certainly not us
    business-inclined users. Certainly not to people who actually want to be
    able to make any real-world USE out of the built-in calendar and contact
    apps, nor to people who want it to work in conjunction with their already
    existing computer system. Game-players, video-watchers, music listeners
    perhaps. Kids. People who spend the day in their room with X-box.

    I am no pundit, but I'll take the risk and speculate that if Apple doesn't
    address those shortcomings, it will find interest in its product waning as
    the fad that it currently is, and serious users moving on to other devices.





  13. #13
    Ron
    Guest

    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:02:20 -0400, "Carl"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >4phun wrote:
    >> On Aug 11, 8:01 am, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> 60 million downloads in first month
    >>>
    >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
    >>>
    >>> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
    >>> per year before long.

    >>
    >> Apple sold 3 million 3G iPhones from July 11 to August. The iPhone has
    >> stunned onlookers in being a smash hit even in Japan where anti Apple
    >> pundits said it would never sell against more sophisticated phones.
    >> This is creating huge shock waves in the highly competitive Japanese
    >> telecom industry. The non iPhone carriers lost net customers to the
    >> iPhone carrier for the first time in Japanese history. Go figure.
    >>
    >> Now investors are worried that Apple will not be physically able to
    >> meet demand in the Global market this year which will affect all
    >> carriers in some way. It is the patented interface that is killing the
    >> competition. People just don't care that the iPhone is missing some
    >> feature found in another phone, they want the iPhone for themselves.
    >> Some even carry two phones just to be able to have the iPhone in
    >> Japan. They don't seem to care that is a little odd.
    >>

    >Why not resolve this the way I did, by getting a Touch instead? Why two
    >phones which is, by many standards, a "little odd"?
    >



    Because the iPhone is an excellent phone, a wonderful iPod, and
    a fully functional Internet device, all perfectly integrated; which
    all work together intuitively.



  14. #14
    Ron
    Guest

    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:26:27 -0400, "Carl"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Ron wrote:
    >> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:22:59 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:[email protected]...
    >>>>
    >>>> 60 million downloads in first month
    >>>>
    >>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
    >>>>
    >>>> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1
    >>>> Billion per year before long.
    >>>
    >>> And how many of those were paid apps ? Or were all those the free
    >>> flashlight apps. All iPhones should have at a min of 5 flashlights
    >>> installed on every single one. Can't get enough of them.

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Yoiu might could try reading the story instead of looking for excuses
    >> to critize Apple. A month ago you were complaining of lack of
    >> applications for the iPhone. Now there are apps, some free, some
    >> selling very well, and still you complain.
    >>

    >Really though, a large, large number of them are not truly useful and way
    >too many of them are games. I would estimate that about 22 of the top 25
    >downloads are games. This may say something about who the iPhone is
    >appealing to. However, I can't say that there aren't a number of reasonably
    >useful apps available. There are a few. Too few. None of the many task
    >managers, for example, tackle the challenge of syncing with MS Outlook, but
    >all assume that task-managing is a new idea for iPhone users. No one has
    >accepted the challenge of getting the iPhone/Touch to PRINT, something which
    >caused my office staff to reject it as a viable adjunct to our wifi desktop
    >system.
    >
    >None of this is to say that 60B downloads isn't great for Apple as a
    >business entity, and certainly points to the iPhone/Touch and the App Store
    >as huge successes. But who are they appealing to? Certainly not us
    >business-inclined users. Certainly not to people who actually want to be
    >able to make any real-world USE out of the built-in calendar and contact
    >apps, nor to people who want it to work in conjunction with their already
    >existing computer system. Game-players, video-watchers, music listeners
    >perhaps. Kids. People who spend the day in their room with X-box.
    >
    >I am no pundit, but I'll take the risk and speculate that if Apple doesn't
    >address those shortcomings, it will find interest in its product waning as
    >the fad that it currently is, and serious users moving on to other devices.
    >


    Care to put yopur money where your mouth is and buy PUTs on Apple
    stock, as it would go down if any of your off-base predictions came
    true..

    Again read the story, there are expensive Medical programs that are
    selling way beyond anyones epectations.



  15. #15
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: GREAT start for App store for iPhone

    At 12 Aug 2008 08:29:00 -0500 Ron wrote:

    > >Why not resolve this the way I did, by getting a Touch instead? Why two
    > >phones which is, by many standards, a "little odd"?
    > >

    >
    >
    > Because the iPhone is an excellent phone, a wonderful iPod, and
    > a fully functional Internet device, all perfectly integrated; which
    > all work together intuitively.



    Did you copy that off the brochure?

    How (from one non-iPhone owner to another!) is it "an excellent phone?"
    I'm not picking on the iPhone in particular here, but all large form-factor
    touchscreen phones.

    I'll give you the other bullet points- it's an excellent iPod and
    webtablet, but I've yet to meet a touchscreen device that was as easy to
    dial as a 12-key phone, as rugged as a cheap candy-bar phone, or as
    "comfortable" as a clamshell (i.e. Razr.)

    I love my Windows Mobile handset, but never would I describe it as an
    "excellent phone" despite the fact that it has reasonably good sound
    quality and reception, simply because it's touchscreen makes it inherently
    more awkward to use than any number of cheap phone-centric devices.

    However, to answer Carl's "why not just use a Touch" question, I'd answer
    "data ubiquity." The Touch is limited to WiFi only, whereas the iPhone has
    the entire GSM network as a safety net. It's hard to show everyone exactly
    how ubercool you are if the i"Phone" you whip out in front of your friends
    isn't connected...





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