GREAT start for App store for iPhone

60 million downloads in first month

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc

If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
per year before long.

"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:3ba0a4plofgf917p7e737clmmatbd598lu@4ax.com...
>
> 60 million downloads in first month
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
>
> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
> per year before long.

And how many of those were paid apps ? Or were all those the free flashlight
apps. All iPhones should have at a min of 5 flashlights installed on every
single one. Can't get enough of them.

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:22:59 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
>news:3ba0a4plofgf917p7e737clmmatbd598lu@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> 60 million downloads in first month
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
>>
>> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
>> per year before long.
>
>And how many of those were paid apps ? Or were all those the free flashlight
>apps. All iPhones should have at a min of 5 flashlights installed on every
>single one. Can't get enough of them.



Yoiu might could try reading the story instead of looking for excuses
to critize Apple. A month ago you were complaining of lack of
applications for the iPhone. Now there are apps, some free, some
selling very well, and still you complain.

"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:22:59 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
>>news:3ba0a4plofgf917p7e737clmmatbd598lu@4ax.com. ..
>>>
>>> 60 million downloads in first month
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
>>>
>>> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
>>> per year before long.
>>
>>And how many of those were paid apps ? Or were all those the free
>>flashlight
>>apps. All iPhones should have at a min of 5 flashlights installed on every
>>single one. Can't get enough of them.
>
>
>
> Yoiu might could try reading the story instead of looking for excuses
> to critize Apple. A month ago you were complaining of lack of
> applications for the iPhone. Now there are apps, some free, some
> selling very well, and still you complain.

Correct. When they repeat the same app over and over again. Like I said,
can't get enough of them flashlight apps.

Maybe I should get one to see how many of them Flashlights I can load onto
it. muhahaha.

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> Not complain, really, but just relishing the irony- when fanbois like
> Oxford defended the lack of installable apps a year ago, they loved
> pointing out how the majority of the TENS of thousands of aps available for
> other platforms were essentially worthless (which, frankly, is very true.)

i knew you would come around to my point of view it was only a matter
of time...

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-93EC9B.21442011082008@news.qwest.net...
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>> Not complain, really, but just relishing the irony- when fanbois like
>> Oxford defended the lack of installable apps a year ago, they loved
>> pointing out how the majority of the TENS of thousands of aps available
>> for
>> other platforms were essentially worthless (which, frankly, is very
>> true.)
>
> i knew you would come around to my point of view it was only a matter
> of time...

Clueless = Oxturd.

On Aug 11, 8:01*am, Ron <roncliff...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> 60 million downloads in first month
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
>
> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
> per year before long.

Apple sold 3 million 3G iPhones from July 11 to August. The iPhone has
stunned onlookers in being a smash hit even in Japan where anti Apple
pundits said it would never sell against more sophisticated phones.
This is creating huge shock waves in the highly competitive Japanese
telecom industry. The non iPhone carriers lost net customers to the
iPhone carrier for the first time in Japanese history. Go figure.

Now investors are worried that Apple will not be physically able to
meet demand in the Global market this year which will affect all
carriers in some way. It is the patented interface that is killing the
competition. People just don't care that the iPhone is missing some
feature found in another phone, they want the iPhone for themselves.
Some even carry two phones just to be able to have the iPhone in
Japan. They don't seem to care that is a little odd.

Kevin Weaver wrote:
> "Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
> news:apony-93EC9B.21442011082008@news.qwest.net...
>> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not complain, really, but just relishing the irony- when fanbois
>>> like Oxford defended the lack of installable apps a year ago, they
>>> loved pointing out how the majority of the TENS of thousands of aps
>>> available for
>>> other platforms were essentially worthless (which, frankly, is very
>>> true.)
>>
>> i knew you would come around to my point of view it was only a
>> matter of time...
>
> Clueless = Oxturd.
>
I think he was being facetious here Kevin (which would demonstrate a good sense of humor), but maybe it's me who got beat on that assumption...? :-)

Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 11 Aug 2008 21:44:50 -0600 Oxford wrote:
>>> when fanbois like
>>> Oxford defended the lack of installable apps a year ago, they loved
>>> pointing out how the majority of the TENS of thousands of aps
>>> available for other platforms were essentially worthless (which,
>>> frankly, is very true.)
>>
>> i knew you would come around to my point of view it was only a
>> matter of time...
>
>
> What's the old joke, Ox? Even a broken clock is right twice a day?
>
>
> The difference between you and I is that I don't ignore or deny the
> flaws in the products and platforms I use. No product is perfect or
> the right one for everyone. Yet you spin every flaw in your precious
> iPhone as either an advantage ("flash eats batteries") or unnecessary
> ("you don't need cut and paste, data just flows between apps.")
>
"The difference between you and ME" would be correct here Todd, "between"
being a preposition. Being that I have nothing productive to add to this
thread, but feel like typing just to see myself talk, I thought I'd sit
around and look for grammatical errors to correct. :-)

4phun wrote:
> On Aug 11, 8:01 am, Ron <roncliff...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>> 60 million downloads in first month
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
>>
>> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
>> per year before long.
>
> Apple sold 3 million 3G iPhones from July 11 to August. The iPhone has
> stunned onlookers in being a smash hit even in Japan where anti Apple
> pundits said it would never sell against more sophisticated phones.
> This is creating huge shock waves in the highly competitive Japanese
> telecom industry. The non iPhone carriers lost net customers to the
> iPhone carrier for the first time in Japanese history. Go figure.
>
> Now investors are worried that Apple will not be physically able to
> meet demand in the Global market this year which will affect all
> carriers in some way. It is the patented interface that is killing the
> competition. People just don't care that the iPhone is missing some
> feature found in another phone, they want the iPhone for themselves.
> Some even carry two phones just to be able to have the iPhone in
> Japan. They don't seem to care that is a little odd.
>
Why not resolve this the way I did, by getting a Touch instead? Why two
phones which is, by many standards, a "little odd"?

At 12 Aug 2008 08:55:33 -0400 Carl wrote:

> > The difference between you and I is that I don't ignore or deny the
> > flaws in the products and platforms I use. No product is perfect or
> > the right one for everyone. Yet you spin every flaw in your precious
> > iPhone as either an advantage ("flash eats batteries") or unnecessary
> > ("you don't need cut and paste, data just flows between apps.")
> >
> "The difference between you and ME" would be correct here Todd, "between"
> being a preposition. Being that I have nothing productive to add to this
> thread, but feel like typing just to see myself talk, I thought I'd sit
> around and look for grammatical errors to correct. :-)


Then you should certainly have a field day with my postings! ;-)

Ron wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:22:59 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
>> news:3ba0a4plofgf917p7e737clmmatbd598lu@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> 60 million downloads in first month
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
>>>
>>> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1
>>> Billion per year before long.
>>
>> And how many of those were paid apps ? Or were all those the free
>> flashlight apps. All iPhones should have at a min of 5 flashlights
>> installed on every single one. Can't get enough of them.
>
>
>
> Yoiu might could try reading the story instead of looking for excuses
> to critize Apple. A month ago you were complaining of lack of
> applications for the iPhone. Now there are apps, some free, some
> selling very well, and still you complain.
>
Really though, a large, large number of them are not truly useful and way
too many of them are games. I would estimate that about 22 of the top 25
downloads are games. This may say something about who the iPhone is
appealing to. However, I can't say that there aren't a number of reasonably
useful apps available. There are a few. Too few. None of the many task
managers, for example, tackle the challenge of syncing with MS Outlook, but
all assume that task-managing is a new idea for iPhone users. No one has
accepted the challenge of getting the iPhone/Touch to PRINT, something which
caused my office staff to reject it as a viable adjunct to our wifi desktop
system.

None of this is to say that 60B downloads isn't great for Apple as a
business entity, and certainly points to the iPhone/Touch and the App Store
as huge successes. But who are they appealing to? Certainly not us
business-inclined users. Certainly not to people who actually want to be
able to make any real-world USE out of the built-in calendar and contact
apps, nor to people who want it to work in conjunction with their already
existing computer system. Game-players, video-watchers, music listeners
perhaps. Kids. People who spend the day in their room with X-box.

I am no pundit, but I'll take the risk and speculate that if Apple doesn't
address those shortcomings, it will find interest in its product waning as
the fad that it currently is, and serious users moving on to other devices.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:02:20 -0400, "Carl"
<crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

>4phun wrote:
>> On Aug 11, 8:01 am, Ron <roncliff...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>> 60 million downloads in first month
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
>>>
>>> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1 Billion
>>> per year before long.
>>
>> Apple sold 3 million 3G iPhones from July 11 to August. The iPhone has
>> stunned onlookers in being a smash hit even in Japan where anti Apple
>> pundits said it would never sell against more sophisticated phones.
>> This is creating huge shock waves in the highly competitive Japanese
>> telecom industry. The non iPhone carriers lost net customers to the
>> iPhone carrier for the first time in Japanese history. Go figure.
>>
>> Now investors are worried that Apple will not be physically able to
>> meet demand in the Global market this year which will affect all
>> carriers in some way. It is the patented interface that is killing the
>> competition. People just don't care that the iPhone is missing some
>> feature found in another phone, they want the iPhone for themselves.
>> Some even carry two phones just to be able to have the iPhone in
>> Japan. They don't seem to care that is a little odd.
>>
>Why not resolve this the way I did, by getting a Touch instead? Why two
>phones which is, by many standards, a "little odd"?
>


Because the iPhone is an excellent phone, a wonderful iPod, and
a fully functional Internet device, all perfectly integrated; which
all work together intuitively.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:26:27 -0400, "Carl"
<crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

>Ron wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:22:59 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
>> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
>>> news:3ba0a4plofgf917p7e737clmmatbd598lu@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> 60 million downloads in first month
>>>>
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/bs_nm/apple_ceo_dc
>>>>
>>>> If sales continue on their upward trend it will be selling $1
>>>> Billion per year before long.
>>>
>>> And how many of those were paid apps ? Or were all those the free
>>> flashlight apps. All iPhones should have at a min of 5 flashlights
>>> installed on every single one. Can't get enough of them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yoiu might could try reading the story instead of looking for excuses
>> to critize Apple. A month ago you were complaining of lack of
>> applications for the iPhone. Now there are apps, some free, some
>> selling very well, and still you complain.
>>
>Really though, a large, large number of them are not truly useful and way
>too many of them are games. I would estimate that about 22 of the top 25
>downloads are games. This may say something about who the iPhone is
>appealing to. However, I can't say that there aren't a number of reasonably
>useful apps available. There are a few. Too few. None of the many task
>managers, for example, tackle the challenge of syncing with MS Outlook, but
>all assume that task-managing is a new idea for iPhone users. No one has
>accepted the challenge of getting the iPhone/Touch to PRINT, something which
>caused my office staff to reject it as a viable adjunct to our wifi desktop
>system.
>
>None of this is to say that 60B downloads isn't great for Apple as a
>business entity, and certainly points to the iPhone/Touch and the App Store
>as huge successes. But who are they appealing to? Certainly not us
>business-inclined users. Certainly not to people who actually want to be
>able to make any real-world USE out of the built-in calendar and contact
>apps, nor to people who want it to work in conjunction with their already
>existing computer system. Game-players, video-watchers, music listeners
>perhaps. Kids. People who spend the day in their room with X-box.
>
>I am no pundit, but I'll take the risk and speculate that if Apple doesn't
>address those shortcomings, it will find interest in its product waning as
>the fad that it currently is, and serious users moving on to other devices.
>

Care to put yopur money where your mouth is and buy PUTs on Apple
stock, as it would go down if any of your off-base predictions came
true..

Again read the story, there are expensive Medical programs that are
selling way beyond anyones epectations.

At 12 Aug 2008 08:29:00 -0500 Ron wrote:

> >Why not resolve this the way I did, by getting a Touch instead? Why two
> >phones which is, by many standards, a "little odd"?
> >
>
>
> Because the iPhone is an excellent phone, a wonderful iPod, and
> a fully functional Internet device, all perfectly integrated; which
> all work together intuitively.


Did you copy that off the brochure?

How (from one non-iPhone owner to another!) is it "an excellent phone?"
I'm not picking on the iPhone in particular here, but all large form-factor
touchscreen phones.

I'll give you the other bullet points- it's an excellent iPod and
webtablet, but I've yet to meet a touchscreen device that was as easy to
dial as a 12-key phone, as rugged as a cheap candy-bar phone, or as
"comfortable" as a clamshell (i.e. Razr.)

I love my Windows Mobile handset, but never would I describe it as an
"excellent phone" despite the fact that it has reasonably good sound
quality and reception, simply because it's touchscreen makes it inherently
more awkward to use than any number of cheap phone-centric devices.

However, to answer Carl's "why not just use a Touch" question, I'd answer
"data ubiquity." The Touch is limited to WiFi only, whereas the iPhone has
the entire GSM network as a safety net. It's hard to show everyone exactly
how ubercool you are if the i"Phone" you whip out in front of your friends
isn't connected...