Multi Tasking and the iPhone

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in
news:gaf6bu$ohj$1@aioe.org:

> The 700MHz spectrum auction was open to any company with a large
> enough checkbook- where were the computer/internet companies that
> could save you from the "sellphone" monopolies? Where were Google,
> Microsoft, Apple, Yahoo, etc? They were on the sidelines letting
> Verizon and AT&T gobble up even more spectrum because there's no
> sustainable business model in undercutting the big cellular companies.
> (See "metro WiFi.") The cost of building and maintaining the
> infrastucture is just too high to make a living at building a network
> and tthinking you can sell it for less money and more profit than the
> incumbents.
>
>

Weren't the sellphone carriers overbidding on these frequency bands just to
bury them to prevent competition? Verizon has one little TV data
transmitter, conveniently located near their biggest stores to move product
without failing, here. It only works within a few miles of North
Charleston and is dead everywhere else. It doesn't look like they're
actually interested in selling them, at all, just enough to keep the band
occupied so noone else can get some 700 Mhz super wifi data network running
without their permission.

It's akin the the Verizon Seat Warmers VZW hires any time the FCC holds a
hearing so noone else can get into the conference room.....

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At 13 Sep 2008 02:15:10 +0000 Larry wrote:

> > The 700MHz spectrum auction was open to any company with a large
> > enough checkbook- where were the computer/internet companies that
> > could save you from the "sellphone" monopolies? Where were Google,
> > Microsoft, Apple, Yahoo, etc? They were on the sidelines letting
> > Verizon and AT&T gobble up even more spectrum because there's no
> > sustainable business model in undercutting the big cellular companies.
> > (See "metro WiFi.") The cost of building and maintaining the
> > infrastucture is just too high to make a living at building a network
> > and tthinking you can sell it for less money and more profit than the
> > incumbents.
> >
> >
>
> Weren't the sellphone carriers overbidding on these frequency bands just
to
> bury them to prevent competition?

The really didn't have to- no one else really showed up- the cable cos
bought a little, Echostar (DISH Network) bought some one-way (receive only)
frequencies, probably to supplement their DBS service with some terrestrial
component, but Verizon and AT&T bought the bulk of it with little
competition.

> Verizon has one little TV data
> transmitter, conveniently located near their biggest stores to move
product
> without failing, here. It only works within a few miles of North
> Charleston and is dead everywhere else. It doesn't look like they're
> actually interested in selling them, at all, just enough to keep the band
> occupied so noone else can get some 700 Mhz super wifi data network
running
> without their permission.


These auctions were for 20-25MHz chunks, similar to the 30MHz 800MHz
allocations. They ain't gonna waste that kind of spectrum on MobiTV!

Both Verizon and AT&T plan to roll out 4G data on their 700MHz spectrum in
the next couple of years. Still think WiMax is going to put them out of
business?

The 700MHz mobile TV Verizon offers is just using the 6MHz allocated for
UHF-TV channel 55, which Verizon bought the use of.

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in
news:gaff7k$ls4$3@aioe.org:

> Both Verizon and AT&T plan to roll out 4G data on their 700MHz
> spectrum in the next couple of years. Still think WiMax is going to
> put them out of business?
>
>

No, America will simply do without the kind of data service the Japanese
take for granted with the big old monopoly companies preventing anyone from
threatening their stranglehold on roaming data comms with the help of their
bribed FCC lawyers making damned sure no real competition ever happens.

That's the reality of comms in America....pay the big corporations or do
without. The days of the small comm companies is over. Motorola has
ruined the 2-way radio business. I have a friend who fought for 2 years to
get a UHF frequency to put a business band radio on. He had to hire
communications attorneys to conduct the "study" on a band that's nearly
dead. It's bull**** to sell business Motorola trunk systems to prevent
them from having their own equipment and NOT making Motorola monthly
payments to the big corporation.

I fully expect, at some point in time, there will be a change in the rules
that will eliminate you connecting to a free wifi, even in your home. Big
communications companies will be RENTING you service from the pole in the
yard.

Larry wrote:
> I fully expect, at some point in time, there will be a change in the rules
> that will eliminate you connecting to a free wifi, even in your home. Big
> communications companies will be RENTING you service from the pole in the
> yard.

Then will be back in 1969 when you had to rent your phone from
the teleco. And we know how THAT ending up after Carter.