A: This is caused by the wrong cable or connection.
The problem is that not all Mini-B USB cables and connections are the
same -- some are 5-connection and some are 4-connection.
The reason is that Standard-A USB has only 4 connections, whereas Mini-B
USB has 5 connections, the extra connection being the device ID pin.
Some Mini-B USB cables omit the 5th connection.
Only 5-connection will work properly for Motorola charging (without a
Motorola USB driver). A correct cable or connection is what's needed.
Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?
A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
continuous use while charging.
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For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.
Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
* SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
* NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
$15 (plus shipping).
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Motorola mini USB (EMU) chargers for RAZR, KRZR (with power output if known):
* Wall "travel" (AC) charger (comes with the phone)
+ Motorola SPN5185/SPN5185A/SPN5185B/98604H: 550 mA (mid)
+ Motorola SPN5202/98605: 850 mA (fast)
* Car (12V) charger
+ Motorola SYN1630/SYN0847/98603H/VC700
* External rechargeable battery/charger
+ Motorola SPN5353/P790/98782H
* (5 pin) mini USB cable to computer: 500 mA
+ Motorola SKN6371C
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(For what it's worth, Motorola probably saves less than $1 in cost by
packaging slower chargers instead of fast chargers with its phones.)
John Navas wrote:
> charger?
>
> A: This is caused by the wrong cable or connection.
>
> The problem is that not all Mini-B USB cables and connections are the
> same -- some are 5-connection and some are 4-connection.
> The reason is that Standard-A USB has only 4 connections, whereas Mini-B
> USB has 5 connections, the extra connection being the device ID pin.
> Some Mini-B USB cables omit the 5th connection.
> Only 5-connection will work properly for Motorola charging (without a
> Motorola USB driver). A correct cable or connection is what's needed.
>
> ============================================================================
>
> Q: Why is charging of Motorola phones so slow on the travel charger?
>
> A: The standard travel charger packaged by Motorola with many current
> phones puts out insufficient power for fastest possible charging and for
> continuous use while charging.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> For example, charger SSW-0509 for the V551 puts out only 375 mA. The
> V551 detects this as a slow charger, and thus keeps the external display
> backlight off during charging. Worse, there's not enough current to
> keep up with use of the phone while charging, so while the phone is use,
> the battery will still be discharged even with the phone on the charger.
> With a fast charger the external display backlight is on during
> charging, and the phone can be used while the battery is charging.
>
> Motorola makes fast 1500 mA chargers that are compatible with these phones:
> * SPN4716* (where * might be "B" or "C"), also known as
> * NNTN4250 (nominally for Nextel, but also works with non-Nextel phones).
> These chargers are readily available from dealers and on eBay for under
> $15 (plus shipping).
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Motorola mini USB (EMU) chargers for RAZR, KRZR (with power output if known):
> * Wall "travel" (AC) charger (comes with the phone)
> + Motorola SPN5185/SPN5185A/SPN5185B/98604H: 550 mA (mid)
> + Motorola SPN5202/98605: 850 mA (fast)
> * Car (12V) charger
> + Motorola SYN1630/SYN0847/98603H/VC700
> * External rechargeable battery/charger
> + Motorola SPN5353/P790/98782H
> * (5 pin) mini USB cable to computer: 500 mA
> + Motorola SKN6371C
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> (For what it's worth, Motorola probably saves less than $1 in cost by
> packaging slower chargers instead of fast chargers with its phones.)
>
> ============================================================================
>
> Q: Where can I get USB modem drivers for Motorola cell phones?
>
> A: <http://developer.motorola.com/docstools/USB_Drivers/Handset_USB_Driver/>
> [registration required, but free]
>
> 1. UNinstall any existing driver in Device Manager before installing this
> driver.
>
> 2. Install this driver _before_ connecting cell phone.
How about putting this stuff on a web site somewhere. It's not
something we need to see on the newsgroup every few weeks!
In article <elmop-9BBEE9.12125829122008@mara100-84.onlink.net>, Elmo P.
Shagnasty <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> "Standard" by whose standard?
>
> If enough of us say that it's "standard usenet practice" to go beat the
> **** out of you and leave you for dead in the middle of the road, would
> you accept that?
OK, I'll let you have him first. But there's gonna be a long line
behind you.
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:12:58 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
<elmop-9BBEE9.12125829122008@mara100-84.onlink.net>:
>In article <qkvhl4ppc6jur05f8p0ue94dle9ku2bjtv@4ax.com>,
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> >How about putting this stuff on a web site somewhere. It's not
>>
>> <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>
>>
>> >something we need to see on the newsgroup every few weeks!
>>
>> It's standard Usenet practice,
>
>"Standard" by whose standard?
Usenet guidelines. You've never read them, have you?
>If enough of us say that it's "standard usenet practice" to go beat the
>**** out of you and leave you for dead in the middle of the road, would
>you accept that?
I don't pay attention to childish thugs and bullies.
--
Very best wishes for the holiday season and for the coming new year,
John
John Navas wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:12:58 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
> <elmop-9BBEE9.12125829122008@mara100-84.onlink.net>:
>
>> In article <qkvhl4ppc6jur05f8p0ue94dle9ku2bjtv@4ax.com>,
>> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> How about putting this stuff on a web site somewhere. It's not
>>> <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>
>>>
>>>> something we need to see on the newsgroup every few weeks!
>>> It's standard Usenet practice,
>> "Standard" by whose standard?
>
> Usenet guidelines. You've never read them, have you?
Do you have a link to these "Usenet guidelines"???
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:43:50 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in
> <btydnYhNUM-gY8XUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>
>> How about putting this stuff on a web site somewhere. It's not
>
> <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>
>
>> something we need to see on the newsgroup every few weeks!
>
> It's standard Usenet practice, and a snap to filter out.
For you, moron, it may be. The rest of us don't give a ****. ¿Comprende?
On 12/29/08 11:23 AM, in article 291220080923154675%rag@nospam.techline.com,
"Mr. Strat" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
> In article <btydnYhNUM-gY8XUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Richard B.
> Gilbert <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> How about putting this stuff on a web site somewhere. It's not
>> something we need to see on the newsgroup every few weeks!
>
> He's retarded. He's on a mission.
A mission that has badly gone astray.
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:12:58 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
> <elmop-9BBEE9.12125829122008@mara100-84.onlink.net>:
>
>> In article <qkvhl4ppc6jur05f8p0ue94dle9ku2bjtv@4ax.com>,
>> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> How about putting this stuff on a web site somewhere. It's not
>>>
>>> <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>
>>>
>>>> something we need to see on the newsgroup every few weeks!
>>>
>>> It's standard Usenet practice,
>>
>> "Standard" by whose standard?
>
> Usenet guidelines. You've never read them, have you?
>
>> If enough of us say that it's "standard usenet practice" to go beat the
>> **** out of you and leave you for dead in the middle of the road, would
>> you accept that?
>
> I don't pay attention to childish thugs and bullies.
Time you did.
> John Navas wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:12:58 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
>> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
>> <elmop-9BBEE9.12125829122008@mara100-84.onlink.net>:
>>
>>> In article <qkvhl4ppc6jur05f8p0ue94dle9ku2bjtv@4ax.com>,
>>> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> How about putting this stuff on a web site somewhere. It's not
>>>> <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>
>>>>
>>>>> something we need to see on the newsgroup every few weeks!
>>>> It's standard Usenet practice,
>>> "Standard" by whose standard?
>>
>> Usenet guidelines. You've never read them, have you?
>
> Do you have a link to these "Usenet guidelines"???
>
> <snip>
No. It's only in his mind: The dog told him to do it...
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:58:56 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in
<hfmdnd3nQZN1gMTUnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>John Navas wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:12:58 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
>> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
>> <elmop-9BBEE9.12125829122008@mara100-84.onlink.net>:
>>
>>> In article <qkvhl4ppc6jur05f8p0ue94dle9ku2bjtv@4ax.com>,
>>> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> How about putting this stuff on a web site somewhere. It's not
>>>> <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>
>>>>
>>>>> something we need to see on the newsgroup every few weeks!
>>>> It's standard Usenet practice,
>>> "Standard" by whose standard?
>>
>> Usenet guidelines. You've never read them, have you?
>
>Do you have a link to these "Usenet guidelines"???
"Google is your friend."
--
Very best wishes for the holiday season and for the coming new year,
John
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