Inside the Apple iPad - Photos

In article <[email protected]>, Lewis
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >> iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi, that was added in version 9,
>
> > no it does not.
>
> Odd that my ibook G4 just synced today's purchases from my MacPro over
> wifi then, isn't it?

except that we're talking about syncing to an ipod/iphone.

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nospam <[email protected]> wrote:

> > iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi, that was added in version 9,
>
> no it does not.

you are incorrect... read the link... wifi syncing was added in iTunes 9.

http://theappleblog.com/2009/09/11/i...-home-sharing/

In article
<apony-AE24FB.23504730042010@dialup-4.167.115.65.dial1.houston1.level3.n
et>, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> > > iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi, that was added in version 9,
> >
> > no it does not.
>
> you are incorrect... read the link... wifi syncing was added in iTunes 9.

not to ipods which is what this is about.

nospam wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Lewis
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi, that was added in version 9,
>>
>> > no it does not.
>>
>> Odd that my ibook G4 just synced today's purchases from my MacPro over
>> wifi then, isn't it?
>
> except that we're talking about syncing to an ipod/iphone.

I guess he flunked reading comprehension.

--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"

Interesting combination of Oxford fanboy blather:

> sure, but there isn't much need for a usb port with everything on apple
> products being wireless... usb is a legacy port, like scsi don't forget.

> iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi, that was added in version 9, yes, it
> hasn't been rolled down to the small devices because of slow wifi speed
> (802.11g) & battery concerns, but it's there.

On the one hand, the fanboy says that USB is "legacy" and "not needed".
On the other hand he admits that USB is needed because the iToy's WiFi is
too slow and the iToy has inadequate battery capacity.

What he really means is "it's shiny and made by Apple."

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

In article <[email protected]>,
Mark Crispin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Interesting combination of Oxford fanboy blather:
>
> > sure, but there isn't much need for a usb port with everything on apple
> > products being wireless... usb is a legacy port, like scsi don't forget.
>
> > iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi, that was added in version 9, yes, it
> > hasn't been rolled down to the small devices because of slow wifi speed
> > (802.11g) & battery concerns, but it's there.
>
> On the one hand, the fanboy says that USB is "legacy" and "not needed".
> On the other hand he admits that USB is needed because the iToy's WiFi is
> too slow and the iToy has inadequate battery capacity.
>
> What he really means is "it's shiny and made by Apple."
>
> -- Mark --
>
Wireless would be nice, and I wish it had that wireless syncing with
iTunes, but yes it would be slower than USB.

As to battery life, well it is nothing short of excellent on the iPad.

Your iToy must be something made by someone else...

--
Lloyd

On Apr 28, 3:11*pm, MuahMan <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 2:18*pm, JEDIDIAH <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 2010-04-28, wetpixel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > In article <[email protected]>, owl <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > In article <[email protected]>, owl <[email protected]>
> > >> > wrote:
>
> > >> >> Do you understand the concept of "hit or miss"? *(see below).
>
> > >> > yes i do, and it's not hit or miss at all.
>
> > >> > usb can't provide enough power for a lot of devices, including
> > >> > bus-powered hard drives. why is that ok but the ipad isn't?
>
> > >> Whether or not it's "ok" is irrelevant. *It either works for all USB ports
> > >> or it doesn't. *The fact is that it does not work for all USB ports. *That
> > >> makes it "hit or miss".
>
> > > No, that means you have to know something about two possible states for
> > > your USB ports before you can know where to charge it more efficiently:
>
> > * * It's too bad they didn't ship it with one of those dual head USB plugs
> > that come with some drives. You can get more power for the device that way.
> > It's a pretty simple work around really. You would have thought it would
> > have occured to Apple.
>
> > > You need to know whether they are high-power USB ports or not.
>
> > > 'nospam' is also pointing out that people have had to check this for
> > > many other USB devices, as well; it's not a new factor in using USB.
>
> > --
>
> > * * * * Some people have this nutty idea that in 1997 * * * * * * * *|||
> > * * * * reading to a hard disk and writing to a hard disk * * * * * / | \
> > * * * * both at the same time was something worth patenting.
>
> Apple likes to add 1 feature a month and resell the same product to
> the Mactards dozens of times. They are brainwashed cultists so it's
> not that hard.

You did say that you bought two iPhones, a Mac Mini, and an iMac
didn't you?

In article
<[email protected]>,
KDT <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Apr 28, 3:11*pm, MuahMan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Apr 28, 2:18*pm, JEDIDIAH <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 2010-04-28, wetpixel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > In article <[email protected]>, owl <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> > In article <[email protected]>, owl <[email protected]>
> > > >> > wrote:
> >
> > > >> >> Do you understand the concept of "hit or miss"? *(see below).
> >
> > > >> > yes i do, and it's not hit or miss at all.
> >
> > > >> > usb can't provide enough power for a lot of devices, including
> > > >> > bus-powered hard drives. why is that ok but the ipad isn't?
> >
> > > >> Whether or not it's "ok" is irrelevant. *It either works for all USB
> > > >> ports
> > > >> or it doesn't. *The fact is that it does not work for all USB ports.
> > > >> *That
> > > >> makes it "hit or miss".
> >
> > > > No, that means you have to know something about two possible states for
> > > > your USB ports before you can know where to charge it more efficiently:
> >
> > > * * It's too bad they didn't ship it with one of those dual head USB
> > > plugs
> > > that come with some drives. You can get more power for the device that
> > > way.
> > > It's a pretty simple work around really. You would have thought it would
> > > have occured to Apple.
> >
> > > > You need to know whether they are high-power USB ports or not.
> >
> > > > 'nospam' is also pointing out that people have had to check this for
> > > > many other USB devices, as well; it's not a new factor in using USB.
> >
> > > --
> >
> > > * * * * Some people have this nutty idea that in 1997 * * * * * * * *|||
> > > * * * * reading to a hard disk and writing to a hard disk * * * * * / | \
> > > * * * * both at the same time was something worth patenting.
> >
> > Apple likes to add 1 feature a month and resell the same product to
> > the Mactards dozens of times. They are brainwashed cultists so it's
> > not that hard.
>
> You did say that you bought two iPhones, a Mac Mini, and an iMac
> didn't you?

He did....

That noise you hear in the background is the tap dance he is warming up
to skirt around that!

--
Lloyd

In article
<[email protected]>,
KDT <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Apr 28, 3:11*pm, MuahMan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Apr 28, 2:18*pm, JEDIDIAH <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 2010-04-28, wetpixel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > In article <[email protected]>, owl <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> > In article <[email protected]>, owl <[email protected]>
> > > >> > wrote:
> >
> > > >> >> Do you understand the concept of "hit or miss"? *(see below).
> >
> > > >> > yes i do, and it's not hit or miss at all.
> >
> > > >> > usb can't provide enough power for a lot of devices, including
> > > >> > bus-powered hard drives. why is that ok but the ipad isn't?
> >
> > > >> Whether or not it's "ok" is irrelevant. *It either works for all USB
> > > >> ports
> > > >> or it doesn't. *The fact is that it does not work for all USB ports.
> > > >> *That
> > > >> makes it "hit or miss".
> >
> > > > No, that means you have to know something about two possible states for
> > > > your USB ports before you can know where to charge it more efficiently:
> >
> > > * * It's too bad they didn't ship it with one of those dual head USB
> > > plugs
> > > that come with some drives. You can get more power for the device that
> > > way.
> > > It's a pretty simple work around really. You would have thought it would
> > > have occured to Apple.
> >
> > > > You need to know whether they are high-power USB ports or not.
> >
> > > > 'nospam' is also pointing out that people have had to check this for
> > > > many other USB devices, as well; it's not a new factor in using USB.
> >
> > > --
> >
> > > * * * * Some people have this nutty idea that in 1997 * * * * * * * *|||
> > > * * * * reading to a hard disk and writing to a hard disk * * * * * / | \
> > > * * * * both at the same time was something worth patenting.
> >
> > Apple likes to add 1 feature a month and resell the same product to
> > the Mactards dozens of times. They are brainwashed cultists so it's
> > not that hard.
>
> You did say that you bought two iPhones, a Mac Mini, and an iMac
> didn't you?

That's what he said.

Of course, he's also said he's a bonus baby living off the proceeds of
the Pratt half of the Pratt & Whitney money. Except for the little fact
that Pratt & Whitneywas never actually owned by anyone named Pratt.

And we now know that he lives in a tiny bungalow in a old folks housing
development.

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

In article <[email protected]>, Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:

> nospam <[email protected]> wrote in news:290420100004559184%
> [email protected]d:
>
> >> What I'd really like to see is an iPad power adapter with multiple USB
> >> ports, so that I can charge my iPad, iPhone and BT headset all off the
> >> same adapter. I can get multiple-USB walwarts in the market already,
> >> but nothing that will power the iPad properly.
> >
> > i'm sure there will be ipad capable power adapters soon enough.
> >
> >
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-USB-2-0-HUB...eed-MAC-Power-
> Supply-/390174498079?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ad8365d1f
>
> $20, 10 USB ports, full speed hub, 500ma per port for charging, $20
>
> Even works off a 5V car power supply in the mobile....not included.
> AC power supply is included.
>
> Oh, wait....There's no USB port on iPad to plug into it....damn!
> Never mind......


Wait... are you seriously thinking you can make the iPad look bad
because you can find accessories that are not appropriate for it?

You could spend all day just making a category list like that --
entirely pointless, but wow, so many kinds of items!

Mouse chargers
pocket protectors
cable management systems
spare HDMI cables
canned air
floor sweepers
magnetic business card holders
flashlights

and there is simply no provision at all for replacements:
stylus tri-packs
spare bulbs
lint baskets
grease pencils

I really don't know why you think a portable device needs to be tied
down to a desktop-accessory USB hub. Is it because you still think this
is a replacement for a computer?

In article <[email protected]>, Oxford
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > sure, but there isn't much need for a usb port with everything on apple
> > > products being wireless... usb is a legacy port, like scsi don't forget.
> >
> >
> > That explains iTunes' ability to sync wirelessly over WiFi...
> >
> > ...oh, wait a minute, I meant Zune's ability...
>
> iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi, that was added in version 9, yes, it
> hasn't been rolled down to the small devices because of slow wifi speed
> (802.11g) & battery concerns, but it's there.
>
> http://www.apple.com/itunes/features/#bonjoursharing
>
> http://theappleblog.com/2009/09/11/i...-home-sharing/

That isn't about synching, but sharing the Library of different
computers among authorized computers.

Synching is a different process entirely.

In article <[email protected]>, Lewis
<[email protected]> wrote:

> In message <300420102323506040%[email protected]>
> nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>, Oxford
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi, that was added in version 9,
>
> > no it does not.
>
> Odd that my ibook G4 just synced today's purchases from my MacPro over
> wifi then, isn't it?

Again, that is about something other than the synching of settings and
data that an iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad need to do.

In article <[email protected]>,
Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi, that was added in version 9,
>
> > no it does not.
>
> Odd that my ibook G4 just synced today's purchases from my MacPro over
> wifi then, isn't it?

Indeed. How did this sync take place? Did you copy of iTunes just
detect your iPhone on the network and started to sync automatically?
Or was it a manual sync? How long did the sync take?


--
Sandman[.net]

In article <[email protected]>, Sandman
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > >> iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi, that was added in version 9,
> >
> > > no it does not.
> >
> > Odd that my ibook G4 just synced today's purchases from my MacPro over
> > wifi then, isn't it?
>
> Indeed. How did this sync take place? Did you copy of iTunes just
> detect your iPhone on the network and started to sync automatically?
> Or was it a manual sync? How long did the sync take?

he's talking about between two computers, not syncing to an iphone.

In article <130520100858306295%[email protected]>,
nospam <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Sandman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >> iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi, that was added in version 9,
> > >
> > > > no it does not.
> > >
> > > Odd that my ibook G4 just synced today's purchases from my MacPro over
> > > wifi then, isn't it?
> >
> > Indeed. How did this sync take place? Did you copy of iTunes just
> > detect your iPhone on the network and started to sync automatically?
> > Or was it a manual sync? How long did the sync take?
>
> he's talking about between two computers, not syncing to an iphone.

Actually, he was talking about the iPad:

DevilsPGD:
"The iPad has a Dock Connector port which has USB pinouts, but no
USB port."

Oxford:
"there isn't much need for a usb port with everything on apple
products being wireless"

Todd Allcock:
"That explains iTunes' ability to sync wirelessly over WiFi...
...oh, wait a minute, I meant Zune's ability..."

Oxford:
"iTunes syncs wirelessly over WiFi"

It was clear that he didn't actually talk about syncing, but it was
disingenious to make it appear that it did wireless syncing but
instead switching the subject to syncing between computers, and not
the iPad at all.


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Sandman[.net]