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- 05-25-2010, 12:03 PM #16Thomas T. VeldhouseGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:52:16 -0700, nospam <[email protected]> wrote
> in <240520101352167782%[email protected]>:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> You're actually making assumptions with no foundation.
>>
>>i'm going by what you wrote.
>>write more clearly next time.
>
> So it's my fault that you misinterpret what I'm writing?
You gave enough information to make logical deductions, but not factual
conclusions as to what you do. But, you clearly could simply tell us; but I
suspect it will prove embarrassing or you would have done so already.
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- 05-25-2010, 12:11 PM #17nospamGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
In article <[email protected]>, Thomas T. Veldhouse
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> You're actually making assumptions with no foundation.
> >>
> >>i'm going by what you wrote.
> >>write more clearly next time.
> >
> > So it's my fault that you misinterpret what I'm writing?
>
> You gave enough information to make logical deductions, but not factual
> conclusions as to what you do. But, you clearly could simply tell us; but I
> suspect it will prove embarrassing or you would have done so already.
spot on, and it's not the first time he's played these games. probably
won't be the last either.
- 05-25-2010, 12:11 PM #18John NavasGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
On 25 May 2010 17:54:57 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:
>In alt.cellular.verizon Paul Miner <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
>> <http://www.pcworld.com/article/196912/7_ways_android_2_2_froyo_tops_apples_iphone.html?tk=rss_news>
>>
>> The just-announced Android 2.2 (code-named Froyo) looks like a winner,
>> with plenty of capabilities that put it well beyond the iPhone. Here
>> are seven ways in which Android 2.2 is superior to the iPhone.
>>
>> [rest of story at link above]
>>
>> I'm guessing the Apple fans will say that each of the iPhone
>> limitations is a benefit in some way.
>
>OS 4.0 is due out in June or July (I forget which) and there are a lot of new
>features including application multitasking [not just push]. Android 2.2
>should really be compared to that as soon those will be the two largest
>competitors [excluding the blackberry which is in its own world].
In due course it will be, whatever OS 4.0 actually is, not the current
vaporware.
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Best regards,
John
If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?
- 05-25-2010, 12:16 PM #19nospamGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >OS 4.0 is due out in June or July (I forget which) and there are a lot of new
> >features including application multitasking [not just push]. Android 2.2
> >should really be compared to that as soon those will be the two largest
> >competitors [excluding the blackberry which is in its own world].
>
> In due course it will be, whatever OS 4.0 actually is, not the current
> vaporware.
it's not vaporware. it's been announced and is available to developers.
if anything, iphone os 4 will have *more* than that, as has been the
case in the past.
- 05-25-2010, 03:36 PM #20Thomas T. VeldhouseGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> In due course it will be, whatever OS 4.0 actually is, not the current
> vaporware.
It's not vaporware; it has been anounced by Apple. Vaporware defines the
rumor of software, but OS 4.0 is no rumor.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.
- 05-25-2010, 03:43 PM #21nospamGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
In article <[email protected]>, Thomas T. Veldhouse
<[email protected]> wrote:
> In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In due course it will be, whatever OS 4.0 actually is, not the current
> > vaporware.
>
> It's not vaporware; it has been anounced by Apple. Vaporware defines the
> rumor of software, but OS 4.0 is no rumor.
not only has it been announced but it has shipped to developers. apple
said the final version will ship in summer 2010 and it's not summer
yet. nothing vapor about it.
compare that to adobe flash for mobile, which was supposed to be done
*last* year and it's still not done.
- 05-25-2010, 04:18 PM #22Paul MinerGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
On 25 May 2010 21:36:29 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> In due course it will be, whatever OS 4.0 actually is, not the current
>> vaporware.
>
>It's not vaporware; it has been anounced by Apple. Vaporware defines the
>rumor of software, but OS 4.0 is no rumor.
Not true. Announcements certainly qualify as vaporware, although I
understand in this case something has actually shipped (to
developers).
--
Paul Miner
- 05-25-2010, 04:49 PM #23SMSGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
On 25/05/10 2:36 PM, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> In due course it will be, whatever OS 4.0 actually is, not the current
>> vaporware.
>
> It's not vaporware; it has been anounced by Apple. Vaporware defines the
> rumor of software, but OS 4.0 is no rumor.
And the hardware has been looked at too, whether or not Apple intended
for it to be.
- 05-25-2010, 04:53 PM #24John NavasGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
On Tue, 25 May 2010 15:49:36 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:
>On 25/05/10 2:36 PM, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>> In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> In due course it will be, whatever OS 4.0 actually is, not the current
>>> vaporware.
>>
>> It's not vaporware; it has been anounced by Apple. Vaporware defines the
>> rumor of software, but OS 4.0 is no rumor.
>
>And the hardware has been looked at too, whether or not Apple intended
>for it to be.
Irrelevant: prototype, not released, and nothing to do with the OS.
"Stay on target, Luke, stay on target!"
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Best regards,
John
"Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level
and then beat you with experience." -Dr. Alan Zimmerman
- 05-25-2010, 04:59 PM #25nospamGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
In article <[email protected]>, Paul Miner
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >> In due course it will be, whatever OS 4.0 actually is, not the current
> >> vaporware.
> >
> >It's not vaporware; it has been anounced by Apple. Vaporware defines the
> >rumor of software, but OS 4.0 is no rumor.
>
> Not true. Announcements certainly qualify as vaporware, although I
> understand in this case something has actually shipped (to
> developers).
4 betas so far and probably another before final release, expected in
june. it's definitely not vapor.
although android 2.2 was announced and a pre-release for nexus one
surfaced, the final release has not yet occurred and it might be a
while for some devices.
<http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-dr...id-2-2-in-the-
near-future-2186605/>
While I can¹t comment on specifics, we do expect DROID by Motorola
users will receive Android 2.2 as a software upgrade in the near
future.
near future?? (translated, 'vapor'). elsewhere in the article, it says
that htc is planning on the end of the year. sounds like even more
vapor.
if iphone os 4 is considered vapor (despite its imminent release in
just a couple of weeks), then android 2.2 must be considered even more
vapor. can't have it both ways.
more importantly, not all devices will run android 2.2, including the
t-mobile g1 which is currently being sold, *new*, right *now*.
- 05-25-2010, 05:05 PM #26nospamGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >And the hardware has been looked at too, whether or not Apple intended
> >for it to be.
>
> Irrelevant: prototype, not released, and nothing to do with the OS.
near final (dvt) and it will have more features than what has been
announced for iphone os 4.
> "Stay on target, Luke, stay on target!"
that goes for you too.
- 05-25-2010, 05:27 PM #27JustinGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote on [25 May 2010 21:36:29 GMT]:
> In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> In due course it will be, whatever OS 4.0 actually is, not the current
>> vaporware.
>
> It's not vaporware; it has been anounced by Apple. Vaporware defines the
> rumor of software, but OS 4.0 is no rumor.
Um, until it makes it to the consumer it is not released. Vaporware is
software or hardare that is announced but never released. Plenty
of vaporware has "shipped" to developers and review units.
- 05-26-2010, 08:14 AM #28Thomas T. VeldhouseGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
In alt.cellular.verizon nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Thomas T. Veldhouse
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > In due course it will be, whatever OS 4.0 actually is, not the current
>> > vaporware.
>>
>> It's not vaporware; it has been anounced by Apple. Vaporware defines the
>> rumor of software, but OS 4.0 is no rumor.
>
> not only has it been announced but it has shipped to developers. apple
> said the final version will ship in summer 2010 and it's not summer
> yet. nothing vapor about it.
>
> compare that to adobe flash for mobile, which was supposed to be done
> *last* year and it's still not done.
Steve Jobs doesn't seem to like Adobe much at all and it seems that Flash on
the iPod is influenced by this.
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.
- 05-26-2010, 08:19 AM #29Thomas T. VeldhouseGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
In alt.cellular.verizon nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Paul Miner
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> more importantly, not all devices will run android 2.2, including the
> t-mobile g1 which is currently being sold, *new*, right *now*.
Not all iPods that run 3.1.x will run 4.0 either. Only iPod Touch Gen 3 and
iPhone GS models (not sure about any previous iPhone model) will accept OS
4.0.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.
- 05-26-2010, 08:20 AM #30Thomas T. VeldhouseGuest
Re: 7 Ways Android 2.2 Froyo Tops Apple's iPhone
In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Irrelevant: prototype, not released, and nothing to do with the OS.
>
> "Stay on target, Luke, stay on target!"
Funny, considering you are one to often divert attention from the target.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.
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