NEWS: Apple iPhone 4 available today amid early reports of hardware issues

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Multi-boot Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows XP Professional, Linux.

Good choice.

> >Me, I like the operating
> >systems where I can easily enable remote access to use with my phone so
that
> >throws out the cheap version of XP, the cheap version of Vista and the
cheap
> >version of Windows 7.
>
> VNC works on all of them.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing>

Are you telling me you can access your computer from your phone if all you
have is VNC on your computer?

I certainly didn't see anything about that on the URL you listed above.
Plus I have tried to get TSWeb to work from my mobile phone and it failed so
I don't expect VNC to work either.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...08(WS.10).aspx

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"Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Multi-boot Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows XP Professional, Linux.
>
> Good choice.
>
> > >Me, I like the operating
> > >systems where I can easily enable remote access to use with my phone so
> that
> > >throws out the cheap version of XP, the cheap version of Vista and the
> cheap
> > >version of Windows 7.
> >
> > VNC works on all of them.
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing>
>
> Are you telling me you can access your computer from your phone if all you
> have is VNC on your computer?
>
> I certainly didn't see anything about that on the URL you listed above.
> Plus I have tried to get TSWeb to work from my mobile phone and it failed
so
> I don't expect VNC to work either.
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...08(WS.10).aspx

I just did a search for "VNC WM6" and found out you need a viewer.

I don't need anything special at all for Remote Desktop Mobile to work and
if you are controlling XP Pro or later then you even get the sound
transferred to your phone.

"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> WinMo remote desktop app, and works with more
> versions of Windows (e.g. XP Home.) They offer paid and free versions of
> their service. The free version does remote desktop, but doesn't redirect
> the PC audio, and doesn't let you copy/paste files between the connected
> machines.

yuck. "doesn't redirect the PC audio." That is one of the neatest things
about Remote Desktop for mobile besides the full screen mode and how easy it
is to transfer files back and forth.

Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in news:ea72o.1$EJ7.0
@hurricane:

> True- both those are in the "Pro" paid service. I just have a heck of a
> time remoting in via cellular from some reason. (RDM works great at home
> on my own network via WiFi where I don't need it to!)
>
>

Todd, have you tried switching from the standard VNC ports to some oddball
port the sellphone carriers don't have throttled to prevent the service?

Remote desktop even runs faster on non standard ports through free wifi
because of the port throttling going on to lower bandwidth usage.


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iPhone 4 is to cellular technology what the Titanic is to cruise ships.

Larry

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:29:46 -0600, in
<[email protected]>, "Roger 2008"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Multi-boot Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows XP Professional, Linux.
>
>Good choice.
>
>> >Me, I like the operating
>> >systems where I can easily enable remote access to use with my phone so
>that
>> >throws out the cheap version of XP, the cheap version of Vista and the
>cheap
>> >version of Windows 7.
>>
>> VNC works on all of them.
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing>
>
>Are you telling me you can access your computer from your phone if all you
>have is VNC on your computer?
>
>I certainly didn't see anything about that on the URL you listed above.
>Plus I have tried to get TSWeb to work from my mobile phone and it failed so
>I don't expect VNC to work either.
>http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...08(WS.10).aspx


I use VNC on a netbook tethered to my mobile. Works quite nicely.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]

Meanwhile, at the alt.internet.wireless Job Justification Hearings, Todd
Allcock chose the tried and tested strategy of:

> dropping mobile support altogether! Thanks, MS!)

Quite a nice summary of MS's mobile strategy.

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:29:46 -0600, in
> <[email protected]>, "Roger 2008"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> Multi-boot Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows XP Professional, Linux.
> >
> >Good choice.
> >
> >> >Me, I like the operating
> >> >systems where I can easily enable remote access to use with my phone
so
> >that
> >> >throws out the cheap version of XP, the cheap version of Vista and the
> >cheap
> >> >version of Windows 7.
> >>
> >> VNC works on all of them.
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing>
> >
> >Are you telling me you can access your computer from your phone if all
you
> >have is VNC on your computer?
> >
> >I certainly didn't see anything about that on the URL you listed above.
> >Plus I have tried to get TSWeb to work from my mobile phone and it failed
so
> >I don't expect VNC to work either.
> >http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...08(WS.10).aspx
>
>
> I use VNC on a netbook tethered to my mobile. Works quite nicely.

I used TSWeb on a netbook tethered to my mobile and it worked quite nicely
but I like things I use from my phone itself without having to tether
anything to it.

But talking about VNC. I have a question for you. Can you setup VNC to
work with a one specific Host Header Name? BTW you can setup TSWeb to work
with one specific Host Header Name.

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:38:42 -0600, in
<[email protected]>, "Roger 2008"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>But talking about VNC. I have a question for you. Can you setup VNC to
>work with a one specific Host Header Name? BTW you can setup TSWeb to work
>with one specific Host Header Name.

Not sure what you mean by that?

--
John

"We have met the enemy and he is us" -Pogo

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:22:50 -0600, in
<[email protected]>, "Roger 2008"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:38:42 -0600, in
>> <[email protected]>, "Roger 2008"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >But talking about VNC. I have a question for you. Can you setup VNC to
>> >work with a one specific Host Header Name? BTW you can setup TSWeb to work
>> >with one specific Host Header Name.
>>
>> Not sure what you mean by that?
>
>TSWeb is a part of IIS so the following might help explain what a Host
>Header Name is:
>
>"How To Use Host Header Names to Configure Multiple Web Sites in Internet
>Information Services 5.0"
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308163

I know about hosting multiple websites on a single IP address (albeit
usually with Apache not [ugh] IIS), but still don't know what you're
trying to do. All you asked for originally was "remote access", and
since we were discussing PCs, not servers, I took that to mean remote
desktop, which is what VNC does. Now ( assuming you're not moving the
goalposts it sounds like you have a much different requirement, but
I'm still not clear what it is.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:38:42 -0600, in
> <[email protected]>, "Roger 2008"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >But talking about VNC. I have a question for you. Can you setup VNC to
> >work with a one specific Host Header Name? BTW you can setup TSWeb to
work
> >with one specific Host Header Name.
>
> Not sure what you mean by that?

TSWeb is a part of IIS so the following might help explain what a Host
Header Name is:

"How To Use Host Header Names to Configure Multiple Web Sites in Internet
Information Services 5.0"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308163

Since you have XP Pro then you have everything you need right now to test
out TSWeb. I even know someone that can help you setup TSWeb. :-)

Years ago when I messed with VNC all you had to do to get to the
name/password prompt was use an IP address with a port number. If it is
still like that then I'm still not interested in it.

BTW can we drop alt.cellular.cingular and alt.internet.wireless from this
thread? TIA

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:30:23 -0600, in
<[email protected]>, "Roger 2008"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:22:50 -0600, in
>>
>> I know about hosting multiple websites on a single IP address (albeit
>> usually with Apache not [ugh] IIS), but still don't know what you're
>> trying to do. All you asked for originally was "remote access", and
>> since we were discussing PCs, not servers, I took that to mean remote
>> desktop, which is what VNC does. Now ( assuming you're not moving the
>> goalposts it sounds like you have a much different requirement, but
>> I'm still not clear what it is.
>
>Here is my quote:
>"I like the operating systems where I can easily enable remote access to use
>with my phone"
>
>Then you started posting about VNC and I couldn't see how I could use VNC
>with "my phone" so I searched the internet and found I'd need a VNC viewer.
>
>Then you posted something about:"I use VNC on a netbook tethered to my
>mobile." Then I decided if you were going to talk about tethered to your
>mobile I'd mention how well TSWeb works when you tether a netbook to your
>mobile.
>
>Then while you were posting about VNC I decided to find out if anything
>changed in VNC since I messed with it years ago. Looks like TSWeb still has
>VNC beat in certain areas.
>
>----------------------------
>
>BTW since TSWeb is a web interface for Remote Desktop you can read more
>about TSWeb vs VNC at:
>
>VNC vs. pcAnywhere vs. Remote Desktop
>http://www.devhood.com/messages/mess...hread_id=16008
>

Still not clear. Must be dense. Sorry.

--
John

"We have met the enemy and he is us" -Pogo

Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in news:4Va2o.27152
[email protected]:

> At 23 Jul 2010 03:18:45 +0000 Larry wrote:
>> Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in news:ea72o.1$EJ7.0
>> @hurricane:
>>
>> > True- both those are in the "Pro" paid service. I just have a heck
> of a
>> > time remoting in via cellular from some reason. (RDM works great
at
> home
>> > on my own network via WiFi where I don't need it to!)
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Todd, have you tried switching from the standard VNC ports to some
> oddball
>> port the sellphone carriers don't have throttled to prevent the
service?
>
> No- but my cell service has all ports open AFAIK. T-Mo stopped port
> blocking a few years ago. I can't get in from open WiFi either- only
my
> own network.
>
> I've opened the port on my router's firewall (I think- this POS
> "Actiontec" combo DSL modem/WiFi router Qwest issues has nasty
counter-
> intuitive software. Several content servers that worked fine on my
last
> router don't work consistently with this one. I've only had this
thing a
> month, so I haven't had time to mess with it much.)
>
>> Remote desktop even runs faster on non standard ports through free
wifi
>> because of the port throttling going on to lower bandwidth usage.
>
> Part of my problem, probably, is the WinMo RD clent. There's no
option
> to change ports, and I'm not actually sure it resolves names, though
it's
> supposed to. Entering the computer's name when on network doesn't
work,
> but entering it's IP address does. To connect remotely I enter the
web
> address issued by my dynamic DNS redirector service- maybe I need to
> enter the numeric address directly.
>
>

It would be interesting to plug a PC running a port logger directly into
the main port of the DSL modem, then attack it with a port scanner from
some IP OFF the DSL company's system to see how many ports you could
actually call and/or ping from the attack computer. If you never saw a
connection attempt on port XXXX, you'd have evidence of port blocking
many of them are doing.



--
iPhone 4 is to cellular technology what the Titanic is to cruise ships.

Larry

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:22:50 -0600, in
>
> I know about hosting multiple websites on a single IP address (albeit
> usually with Apache not [ugh] IIS), but still don't know what you're
> trying to do. All you asked for originally was "remote access", and
> since we were discussing PCs, not servers, I took that to mean remote
> desktop, which is what VNC does. Now ( assuming you're not moving the
> goalposts it sounds like you have a much different requirement, but
> I'm still not clear what it is.

Here is my quote:
"I like the operating systems where I can easily enable remote access to use
with my phone"

Then you started posting about VNC and I couldn't see how I could use VNC
with "my phone" so I searched the internet and found I'd need a VNC viewer.

Then you posted something about:"I use VNC on a netbook tethered to my
mobile." Then I decided if you were going to talk about tethered to your
mobile I'd mention how well TSWeb works when you tether a netbook to your
mobile.

Then while you were posting about VNC I decided to find out if anything
changed in VNC since I messed with it years ago. Looks like TSWeb still has
VNC beat in certain areas.

----------------------------

BTW since TSWeb is a web interface for Remote Desktop you can read more
about TSWeb vs VNC at:

VNC vs. pcAnywhere vs. Remote Desktop
http://www.devhood.com/messages/mess...hread_id=16008

"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in news:4Va2o.27152
> [email protected]:
>
> It would be interesting to plug a PC running a port logger directly into
> the main port of the DSL modem, then attack it with a port scanner from
> some IP OFF the DSL company's system to see how many ports you could
> actually call and/or ping from the attack computer. If you never saw a
> connection attempt on port XXXX, you'd have evidence of port blocking
> many of them are doing.

Now that you mention a "port scanner" here is a good one that will work on
Todd's Sony Ericsson
http://www.cam.com/vxutil_pers.html

All it does is list the open ports and it is easy enough to setup IIS to
open any port or ports that you want to test.

"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> At 23 Jul 2010 22:59:47 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:
>
> Sadly, the vxUtil port scanner hangs on my X1 when using it via cellular.

I just tried vxUtil on my X1 and remembered that it is very slow on cellular
so I just scan one or two ports at a time.

vxUtil helped me find a problem a long time ago when I was trying to get
vxWeb to work on port 80 so I hadn't used it for a while myself. Plus, you
don't need an IP address to scan ports as you probably found out.

> Having said that, for overall useability, it really pales next to
> LogMeIn. With LMI I can zoom in and out and resize the desktop display.
> (And it doesn't rearrainge all of desktop icons!) I can really only
> imagine using RDM if I need PC audio to play over the mobile.

RDM certainly isn't for everything so I use pcAnywhere for mobile when I
want to connect to a computer with a lot of desktop icons and don't care
about the missing sound. pcAnywhere for mobile will not let you zoom in but
it will let you zoom out to see a screen much bigger than the screen on your
phone and pcAnywhere for mobile works with XP Home.

> Maybe I'm missing something, but when I remote in to my PC with RDM, the
> PC desktop switches to 800x480 to match the phone's screen size. (The
> display change is what moves the desktop icons around.)

But RDM looks just like a desktop computer when you go to full screen in
landscape mode and I like that part of it the most. My biggest complaint
about RDM is stereo sound is reduced to mono.