NEWS: Apple sued over hot iPad shutdowns

On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:03:21 -0700, in
<[email protected]>, Alan Baker
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <040820100857476252%[email protected]>,
> nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
>> <[email protected]> wrote:

>> > Back into the kill filter you go.
>>
>> coward.
>
>Replied so that John can see.

[shrug]

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Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote in news:alangbaker-
[email protected]:

> I can't help but notice the complete absence of any references...
>
>

What the **** "references"? My post was first-hand information from an
N800 owner who's operated N800 in hot cars for years.

The temperature specs come from the Nokia website and you can also find
them on all the spec sheets on all the N800 evaluation sites. Do I have to
hold your hand to Engadget or Nokia?

--
iPhone 4 is to cellular technology what the Titanic is to cruise ships.

Larry

Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote in news:alangbaker-
[email protected]:

> Can you show that the iPad is actually *behaving* any differently than
> other similar devices?
>
>

Hell, that's easy! The "other similar devices" don't have class action
lawsuits from angry customers against them for overheating!

NEXT DEFLECTION!

--
iPhone 4 is to cellular technology what the Titanic is to cruise ships.

Larry

In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote in news:alangbaker-
> [email protected]:
>
> > I can't help but notice the complete absence of any references...
> >
> >
>
> What the **** "references"? My post was first-hand information from an
> N800 owner who's operated N800 in hot cars for years.

And this proves... ...what?

>
> The temperature specs come from the Nokia website and you can also find
> them on all the spec sheets on all the N800 evaluation sites. Do I have to
> hold your hand to Engadget or Nokia?

Really? They do, do they? Because I checked Nokia's website and couldn't
find them. Would you mind?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>

John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Don't be so defensive.
>

Apple fanboiz MUST be defensive. It's a requirement of being an Apple
fanboi that no matter what the company does or screws up, the fanboi legion
MUST defend the company with rationalizations and deflections even with
their lives! It reminds one of the Jews defending Holocaust or Christians
defending the Bible. It's more of a religious phenomenon, like these.

I have this hilarious picture of legions of Toyota fanboiz standing arm-in-
arm in front of the Toyota dealers with grim looks on their faces defending
Toyota with their very lives against the recent spate of product
recalls....(c;]

How does Jobs get the company devotion to the level of a religion, no
matter what? What a great psychological study for the marketing students
at a major university to study! They could sell it to BP!

--
iPhone 4 is to cellular technology what the Titanic is to cruise ships.

Larry

In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote in news:alangbaker-
> [email protected]:
>
> > Can you show that the iPad is actually *behaving* any differently than
> > other similar devices?
> >
> >
>
> Hell, that's easy! The "other similar devices" don't have class action
> lawsuits from angry customers against them for overheating!
>
> NEXT DEFLECTION!

That's not actual evidence of the iPad behaving differently, Larry. That
is evidence of *people* behaving differently.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>

In article <040820100900396583%[email protected]>,
nospam <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> 1. I have no personal interest in the iPad because it does not fit my
> > >> own needs (whether well engineered or not).
> > >
> > >'I've never had this kind of thermal issue with a
> > >cell phone or an Acer netbook even in pretty harsh conditions. The
> > >apologies here, starting with the "technical" nonsense posted by Steven,
> > >are a sorry commentary on Apple engineering.'
> > >
> > >That is taking a position.
> >
> > Indeed, but on the *apologies*, not on the engineering itself,
> > on which I have no opinion. Does that help?
>
> no, because you said 'sorry commentary on apple engineering' so you
> clearly *do* have an opinion, and a penchant for lying or being
> incredibly obtuse.

Yup. You can't believe an allegation of wrong doing is a "sorry
commentary" on someone's character unless you believe in the allegation.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>

Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote in news:alangbaker-
[email protected]:

> Can you show that iPads have the alleged issue?
>

Scott Cole & Associates
Michael Lubofsky, 510-891-9800
Fax: 510-891-7030
[email protected]
www.scalaw.com

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20011873-260.html

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...lawsuit-filed-
over-overheating-ipads.ars

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...th_new_lawsuit
_over_ipad_overheating_in_direct_sunlight.html

http://classactionlawsuitsinthenews....ction-lawsuit-
complaints/apple-ipad-overheating-class-action-lawsuit-complaint/

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives...ns_file_class-
action_lawsuit_against_ipad_overheating.html

http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2010/07...s-action-over-
ipad-overheating-sunlight

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2367089,00.asp

http://news.suite101.com/article.cfm...of-apple-ipad-
include-overheating-a267011

http://consumerist.com/2010/07/apple...does-not-work-
just-like-a-book-as-claimed.html

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...suit_claims_Ap
ple_s_iPad_overheats_in_minutes

http://blog.ziggytek.com/2010/07/28/...-class-action-
lawsuit-against-apple-for-overheating-ipad/

http://mac.blorge.com/2010/07/28/ove...ults-in-apple-
being-sued/

http://www.themoneytimes.com/feature...ers-sue-apple-
over-tablet039s-overheating-and-switch-problems-id-10122231.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sco...nounces-class-
action-lawsuit-for-ipad-overheating-false-advertising-2010-07-28

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...r-claims-ipad-
tablet-overheats-in-sunlight-warm-conditions.html

http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/a...ction-lawsuit-
for-overheating-ipads-20100728/

http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=10141

http://fonefrenzy.com/2010/07/27/law...pple-for-ipad-
overheating/

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...omments/26132/

http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2010/0...lawsuit-filed-
over.html

http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsu...suit-news/731-
apple-sued-over-overheating-ipad-

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/gam...uit.filed.over
heating.ipads/index.html

http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/07/27...against-apple-
alleges-that-ipads-get-too-hot-when-used-in-the-sun/

http://blog.legalzoom.com/legal-news...-alleged-ipad-
overheating/

http://techblips.dailyradar.com/stor...r-claims-ipad-
tablet-overheats-in/

http://www.ipadshouse.com/ipad-overh...against-apple/

http://www.theipadfan.com/ipad-overh...-court-debate/

http://onespot.sfgate.com/technology...39-apple-sued-
over-ipad-overheating/

http://www.worldtech24.com/software/...it-filed-over-
overheating-ipads

http://iphonehelp.in/2010/07/28/the-...e-lawsuit-for-
overheating-ipad/

http://itgrunts.com/2010/07/27/ipad-...ction-lawsuit-
against-ipads-filed/

Do you want some more cites, fanboi idiot?

--
iPhone 4 is to cellular technology what the Titanic is to cruise ships.

Larry

In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote in news:alangbaker-
> [email protected]:
>
> > Can you show that iPads have the alleged issue?
> >
>
> Scott Cole & Associates
> Michael Lubofsky, 510-891-9800
> Fax: 510-891-7030
> [email protected]
> www.scalaw.com
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20011873-260.html
>
> http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...lawsuit-filed-
> over-overheating-ipads.ars
>
> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...th_new_lawsuit
> _over_ipad_overheating_in_direct_sunlight.html
>
> http://classactionlawsuitsinthenews....ction-lawsuit-
> complaints/apple-ipad-overheating-class-action-lawsuit-complaint/
>
> http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives...ns_file_class-
> action_lawsuit_against_ipad_overheating.html
>
> http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2010/07...s-action-over-
> ipad-overheating-sunlight
>
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2367089,00.asp
>
> http://news.suite101.com/article.cfm...of-apple-ipad-
> include-overheating-a267011
>
> http://consumerist.com/2010/07/apple...does-not-work-
> just-like-a-book-as-claimed.html
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...suit_claims_Ap
> ple_s_iPad_overheats_in_minutes
>
> http://blog.ziggytek.com/2010/07/28/...-class-action-
> lawsuit-against-apple-for-overheating-ipad/
>
> http://mac.blorge.com/2010/07/28/ove...ults-in-apple-
> being-sued/
>
> http://www.themoneytimes.com/feature...ers-sue-apple-
> over-tablet039s-overheating-and-switch-problems-id-10122231.
>
> http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sco...nounces-class-
> action-lawsuit-for-ipad-overheating-false-advertising-2010-07-28
>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...r-claims-ipad-
> tablet-overheats-in-sunlight-warm-conditions.html
>
> http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/a...ction-lawsuit-
> for-overheating-ipads-20100728/
>
> http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=10141
>
> http://fonefrenzy.com/2010/07/27/law...pple-for-ipad-
> overheating/
>
> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...omments/26132/
>
> http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2010/0...lawsuit-filed-
> over.html
>
> http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsu...suit-news/731-
> apple-sued-over-overheating-ipad-
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/gam...uit.filed.over
> heating.ipads/index.html
>
> http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/07/27...against-apple-
> alleges-that-ipads-get-too-hot-when-used-in-the-sun/
>
> http://blog.legalzoom.com/legal-news...-alleged-ipad-
> overheating/
>
> http://techblips.dailyradar.com/stor...r-claims-ipad-
> tablet-overheats-in/
>
> http://www.ipadshouse.com/ipad-overh...against-apple/
>
> http://www.theipadfan.com/ipad-overh...-court-debate/
>
> http://onespot.sfgate.com/technology...39-apple-sued-
> over-ipad-overheating/
>
> http://www.worldtech24.com/software/...it-filed-over-
> overheating-ipads
>
> http://iphonehelp.in/2010/07/28/the-...e-lawsuit-for-
> overheating-ipad/
>
> http://itgrunts.com/2010/07/27/ipad-...ction-lawsuit-
> against-ipads-filed/
>
> Do you want some more cites, fanboi idiot?

All those prove is that a lawyer saw an opportunity to get a settlement.

It is evidence of *human* behavior, not iPad behaviour.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>

Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote in news:alangbaker-
[email protected]:

> All those prove is that a lawyer saw an opportunity to get a settlement.
>
> It is evidence of *human* behavior, not iPad behaviour.
>
> --
> Alan Baker
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
>
>

How much is Jobs paying you to defend the company?

--
iPhone 4 is to cellular technology what the Titanic is to cruise ships.

Larry

In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote in news:alangbaker-
> [email protected]:
>
> > All those prove is that a lawyer saw an opportunity to get a settlement.
> >
> > It is evidence of *human* behavior, not iPad behaviour.
> >
> > --
> > Alan Baker
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
> >
> >
>
> How much is Jobs paying you to defend the company?

How much are you being paid to malign it? Because whoever is doing it
should get a refund. Referencing the same lawsuit over and over doesn't
make it any more evidence of an actual problem.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>

In article <[email protected]>, Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote in news:alangbaker-
> [email protected]:
>
> > Can you show that iPads have the alleged issue?
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20011873-260.html
>
> http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...lawsuit-filed-
> over-overheating-ipads.ars

links for lawsuits snipped.


where are the thermal tests? how hot does it get? at what temperature
is the warning given? what *is* it's real world operating temperature
limits?

oh right, you don't have any *actual* evidence, just more idiocy.

John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> My only comment was that the issue is reminiscent of the fanless Mac.
> >> It is.
>
> >No, actually. That was not your "only comment". In fact, until this
> >moment, it was a comment of yours at all.
>
> Like the rest of your reply, which I've snipped for brevity ...


*********************
RUN JOHN RUN!
*********************

Merely par for the course when Navas has had his ass handed to
him....yet again.


The simplest of bottom lines is that if John really did have no
opinion and no dog in the hunt, he would have never posted any comment
whatsoever in the thread.



-hh

John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >This kind of trolling is par for the course for John Navas.
> >John is notoriously untruthful in the rec.photo* forums.
> >Slap him, then ignore him.
>
> Translation: *I don't buy into the bashing of compact digital cameras by
> those who wrongly claim a dSLR makes for a better photographer.

A "...dSLR makes for a better photographer"? I don't ever recall
ever making such a claim.
(Google: 'Your search - dSLR "better photographer" - did not match
any documents.')

It certainly would be interesting for Navas to ever be able to find a
citation where I said such a thing. I have, however, dared to say
that sometimes one's equipment can make a significant difference.
Here's an example that Navas chose to never comment on:

Using one camera's small built-in strobe:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2uz24y

Using another with a hot shoe, external strobe and beamer:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2revye



> Back into the kill filter you go.

Goody, although this is something like the 3rd or 4th time. Ironic
how Navas then whines about other peoples' products being broken and
inferior <g>.


-hh

Bottom Line, Apple is being sued again for a faulty product that
routinely overheats during normal usage.

Apple will continue to get sued until they learn to make products that
work.