Apple Goes Beyond Magic with the iPad 2!

Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote:

> Frankly, considering the iPad's success, I'm surprised more serious
> competition hasn't arrived, though Google's partially to blame for
> disallowing non-cellular tablets access to Google apps and services like
> the Android Market.

well, the iPad's success is all about tight software integration,
hardware miniaturization and squeezing component costs to the bone, no
other companies have that skill set, plus apple has been working on
tablets for 29 years so they have far deeper expertise to build devices
like the ipad 2.

yes, google was late to the party, but even today they aren't keeping
pace. 100 apps for Android tablets? 65,000 for the iPad? the biggest
complaint of honeycomb is where are the apps? and without developer
interest or $ incentive, their probably won't be many apps made for
android tables. (save custom enterprise apps)

so it's looking like android devices are going to end up like the
creative nomad, diamond rio, iriver, zune, etc. lots of "designs" but
all failures in the market.

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Justin <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Perhaps, but $349 isn't. I almost pulled the trigger on a refurb
>
> For the smallest memory version? When a single video file can be over a GB
> it's rather limited

but you rarely store video on an ipad, you just stream everything from
your airport basestation. trying to "store" video is pointless in this
day and age, just leave it on your server or cloud account.

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 05:25:12 +0000, Justin wrote:

>> nobody really cares who assembles it, what matters is the precision
>> engineering and ecosystem it works within. the iPad is about 6 years
>> ahead of anyone else, so you still need to learn what we are talking
>> about.
>
> You mean like the new Macbooks and their stripped screws, unlocked ZIF
> sockets and way too much thermal paste?


Like I told him, I fix Foxconn stuff all day. The best one was a Dell unit
shipped direct from the Foxconn facility. WOuldn't power up, just kept
throwing codes and recycling. I went to replace the mobo, and removed the
heatsink and fan, and...EMPTY socket...maybe it stuck to the heatsink...it
CAN'T! The 755 socket prevents it from coming off with the heatsink!

Excellent QC, I tell ya!

Bottom line: yes, I DO care who it's made by! And I WOULD pay more for a
made in USA unit. You can do all the magnificent engineering you want, but
if it's made by people that just don't or aren't allowed to care, WTF GOOD
is it?!?!?!

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:35:09 -0700, Oxford wrote:

> nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > > like here:
>> > > > > AAPL will become a $3500 stock, just watch.
>> >
>> > you'll see, yes, it's a few years off, but will happen.
>>
>> how much would you like to wager on that?
>
> how about $1000?
>
> it was $18 just 11 years ago, so it will easily be $3500 in the next 14
> years if not before.
>
> apple will be the centerpiece of "wireless paper" so that's a $6 Trillion
> business alone, then volkswagon announced today each of their new
> microbus' will include an ipad embedded into the dashboard.
>
> http://www.slashgear.com/volkswagon-...icrobus-021373
> 33/
>
> then the FAA just announced pilots can use iPads for their maps! SWEET!
>
> http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/02/faa-ipad
>
> the list of innovation is endless, so expect 90 million ipads sold in
> 2012, thus $3500 looks cheap.
>
> you'll see!


How much are they paying you to shill? And, why are you including the
Verizon group? Can you use the damn thing as a phone?

In article <[email protected]>,
Hachiroku ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 02:32:44 +0000, Justin wrote:
>
> > Oxford wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:03:35 -0700]:
> >> Steve Jobs today released a Revolution on top of a Revolution!
> >>
> >> This Keynote was WAY beyond what anyone expected. The iPad 2 officially
> >> wins 90% of the tablet market for the next 10 years. Nobody is even
> >> remotely close to what was announced today.
> >>
> >> 33% Thinner!
> >> 2 Cameras / Back is HD
> >> 1.3 Pounds
> >
> > So... still too heavy
> >
> >> 9 Times Faster Video
> >
> > Um, OK. What does this mean? 9 times faster video? so I can watch a 30
> > minute show in 3 minutes?
> >
> >> Still $499
> >
> > Still way too expensive
>
>
> This guy an Apple shill, or what?
>
> And, does he know Apples are made at the SAME Foxconn plant in China that
> makes, Dell, HP, Compaq and others?

Some people seem to think you can just call up Foxconn and say "Give me
a million tablets with the same components as the iPad. I'll e-mail some
CAD files with the case design".

It doesn't work like that. Foxconn (and similar companies) don't make
most of the components in the devices they assemble. Apple and other
vendors have to find suppliers and make deals for each component. As a
consequence of Apple's huge cash horde and the vast quantities they
order of a given component (remember, Apple has a significant share of
the market with only a few devices; the rest of the market is split over
dozens of devices), favorable deals on key components can allow Apple
access to items others don't have access to, or result in lower prices
for Apple than others pay.

This is a significant part of the reason other vendors are having such a
hard time matching Apple's iPad pricing.

And something like quality control, when a vendor has their products
manufactured by Foxconn or similar, is specified _by the vendor_.

This whole "Everything is made at Foxconn; it's all the same" argument
has essentially no relationship to reality.

--
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes

In article <[email protected]>,
Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > like here:
> > > > > > AAPL will become a $3500 stock, just watch.
> > >
> > > you'll see, yes, it's a few years off, but will happen.
> >
> > how much would you like to wager on that?
>
> how about $1000?
>
> it was $18 just 11 years ago, so it will easily be $3500 in the next
> 14 years if not before. apple will be the centerpiece of "wireless
> paper" so that's a $6 Trillion business alone,

On what basis?

> then volkswagon announced today each of their new microbus' will
> include an ipad embedded into the dashboard.
>
> http://www.slashgear.com/volkswagon-...d-microbus-021
> 373 33/

It's a concept car with no specific plans for actual production.

> then the FAA just announced pilots can use iPads for their maps!
> SWEET!
>
> http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/02/faa-ipad

Neat, but nut exactly a huge market in terms of unit sales.

> the list of innovation is endless, so expect 90 million ipads sold in
> 2012, thus $3500 looks cheap.
>
> you'll see!

90M iPads isn't nearly enough to drive Apple stock to $3500.

--
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes

In article <[email protected]>, Oxford
<[email protected]> wrote:

> but you rarely store video on an ipad, you just stream everything from
> your airport basestation. trying to "store" video is pointless in this
> day and age, just leave it on your server or cloud account.

yea that works out so well on a plane, or in a car (for passengers).

In article <[email protected]>, Oxford
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > > > like here:
> > > > > > AAPL will become a $3500 stock, just watch.
> > >
> > > you'll see, yes, it's a few years off, but will happen.
> >
> > how much would you like to wager on that?
>
> how about $1000?

do you have that much?

> it was $18 just 11 years ago, so it will easily be $3500 in the next 14
> years if not before.

for a stock to go up tenfold is unusual. it's very unlikely it will do
it a second time.

In article <[email protected]>, Oxford
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > > it sure isn't the motorola xoom, which costs $800.
> >
> > Doesn't matter, both cost way too much.
>
> which basically means you are clueless about technology. $499 for a
> device like this is equivalent to $650,000 some 20 years ago.

and you're clueless about inflation.

> so sounds like you need to get a job and be responsible.

sounds like you should.

On 2-Mar-2011, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> Steve Jobs today released a Revolution on top of a Revolution!
>
> This Keynote was WAY beyond what anyone expected. The iPad 2 officially
> wins 90% of the tablet market for the next 10 years. Nobody is even
> remotely close to what was announced today.
>
> 33% Thinner!
> 2 Cameras / Back is HD
> 1.3 Pounds
> 9 Times Faster Video
> Smart Magnetic Covers
> 1080p Mirroring
> 10-18 hours of battery life
> Wireless Video into your Television
> Up to 64GB of SSD
> Supports Facetime to iPhone, iPod Touch and Macs
> 3G on both Verizon and ATT
> Three-axis gyroscope
> Still $499
>
> Be sure to WATCH the Video on the main link below, it really illustrates
> what just happened. Again, watch the video...
>
> http://www.apple.com/ipad/
>
> http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
>
> http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/
>
> http://www.apple.com/ipad/built-in-apps/
> http://www.apple.com/ipad/ios4/
>
> http://www.apple.com/ipad/smart-cover/
>
> general keynote details here:
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/02/l...-ipad-2-event/
>
> They go on sale in 10 days, March 11th. $499
>
> If you haven't started making money on the iPad Revolution, here is the
> link to start making millions:
>
> http://developer.apple.com/technologies/ios/

Apparently Apple took a lot of flack for their heavy-handed approach in
changing the usage of the side switch. They've decided to make it
customizable - all those pesky and noisy consumers must have been pretty
convincing.

Oxford wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:35:09 -0700]:
> nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > > like here:
>> > > > > AAPL will become a $3500 stock, just watch.
>> >
>> > you'll see, yes, it's a few years off, but will happen.
>>
>> how much would you like to wager on that?
>
> how about $1000?
>
> it was $18 just 11 years ago, so it will easily be $3500 in the next 14
> years if not before.

Hahahaha

After Jobs dies next year, it will plummet

Oxford wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:38:44 -0700]:
> Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > it sure isn't the motorola xoom, which costs $800.
>>
>> Doesn't matter, both cost way too much.
>
> which basically means you are clueless about technology. $499 for a
> device like this is equivalent to $650,000 some 20 years ago.

Wow, that much? How many fart apps does that play?

> so sounds like you need to get a job and be responsible.

I think responsible is not buying such a limited and expensive
toy

Oxford wrote on [Thu, 03 Mar 2011 00:00:45 -0700]:
> Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > Perhaps, but $349 isn't. I almost pulled the trigger on a refurb
>>
>> For the smallest memory version? When a single video file can be over a GB
>> it's rather limited
>
> but you rarely store video on an ipad, you just stream everything from
> your airport basestation. trying to "store" video is pointless in this
> day and age, just leave it on your server or cloud account.

I guess you never leave the house?

What do you do when you are going on a trip and want a couple of movies for
the flight or for passing the time in the hotel at night?

ZnU wrote on [Thu, 03 Mar 2011 03:43:13 -0500]:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Hachiroku ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> And something like quality control, when a vendor has their products
> manufactured by Foxconn or similar, is specified _by the vendor_.

So, if apple is asking for poor QC on their macbooks, are their ipads
going to have the same problems?

Hachiroku ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <[email protected]> wrote:

> > the list of innovation is endless, so expect 90 million ipads sold in
> > 2012, thus $3500 looks cheap.
> >
> > you'll see!
>
> How much are they paying you to shill? And, why are you including the
> Verizon group? Can you use the damn thing as a phone?

what's a shill? i'm just a very helpful person getting the word out
about innovations in the industry. why are you so against the best
technology anyway?