Apple Goes Beyond Magic with the iPad 2!

ZnU <[email protected]> wrote:

> > the list of innovation is endless, so expect 90 million ipads sold in
> > 2012, thus $3500 looks cheap.
> >
> > you'll see!
>
> 90M iPads isn't nearly enough to drive Apple stock to $3500.

not ipads alone of course, but macs sales are growing 30% faster than
the windows world, the ipod touch is selling in the millions each
quarter, the iphone will sell around 60 million units this year, a
iphone nano will triple sales, then you need to add in all the billions
of apps, songs, books, movies sold... add adapters, applecare, etc

$3500 is achievable is my point.

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Todd Allcock wrote on [Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:03:59 -0700]:
> At 03 Mar 2011 05:18:05 +0000 Justin wrote:
>> Todd Allcock wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:03:59 -0700]:
>> > At 03 Mar 2011 02:32:44 +0000 Justin wrote:
>> >> Oxford wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:03:35 -0700]:
>> >> > Still $499
>> >>
>> >> Still way too expensive
>> >
>> >
>> > Perhaps, but $349 isn't. I almost pulled the trigger on a refurb
>>
>> For the smallest memory version? When a single video file can be over a
> GB
>> it's rather limited
>
>
> More is always better, but 16GB is sufficient for a trip, and you can
> change the content (or stream) when at home or in hotel.

Have you tried using internet in a hotel? It's always a crap shoot as to
the speed and what you can and can't connect to. What ports are blocked, etc.

Justin <[email protected]> writes:

> Todd Allcock wrote on [Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:03:59 -0700]:
>> At 03 Mar 2011 05:18:05 +0000 Justin wrote:
>>> Todd Allcock wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:03:59 -0700]:
>>> > At 03 Mar 2011 02:32:44 +0000 Justin wrote:
>>> >> Oxford wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:03:35 -0700]:
>>> >> > Still $499
>>> >>
>>> >> Still way too expensive
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Perhaps, but $349 isn't. I almost pulled the trigger on a refurb
>>>
>>> For the smallest memory version? When a single video file can be over a
>> GB
>>> it's rather limited
>>
>>
>> More is always better, but 16GB is sufficient for a trip, and you can
>> change the content (or stream) when at home or in hotel.
>
> Have you tried using internet in a hotel? It's always a crap shoot as to
> the speed and what you can and can't connect to. What ports are blocked, etc.

You really redefine cluelessness.

Of course some places might have rubbish setups. Most dont.

Hadron wrote on [Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:31:15 +0100]:
> Justin <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Todd Allcock wrote on [Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:03:59 -0700]:
>>> At 03 Mar 2011 05:18:05 +0000 Justin wrote:
>>>> Todd Allcock wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:03:59 -0700]:
>>>> > At 03 Mar 2011 02:32:44 +0000 Justin wrote:
>>>> >> Oxford wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:03:35 -0700]:
>>>> >> > Still $499
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Still way too expensive
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Perhaps, but $349 isn't. I almost pulled the trigger on a refurb
>>>>
>>>> For the smallest memory version? When a single video file can be over a
>>> GB
>>>> it's rather limited
>>>
>>>
>>> More is always better, but 16GB is sufficient for a trip, and you can
>>> change the content (or stream) when at home or in hotel.
>>
>> Have you tried using internet in a hotel? It's always a crap shoot as to
>> the speed and what you can and can't connect to. What ports are blocked, etc.
>
> You really redefine cluelessness.
>
> Of course some places might have rubbish setups. Most dont.

Most don't is a lie.

You won't know until you get there and end up screwed, anyway.

Oxford wrote:

> Hachiroku ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > the list of innovation is endless, so expect 90 million ipads sold in
>> > 2012, thus $3500 looks cheap.
>> >
>> > you'll see!
>>
>> How much are they paying you to shill? And, why are you including the
>> Verizon group? Can you use the damn thing as a phone?
>
> what's a shill?

You are, OxRetard

> i'm just a very helpful person getting the word out
> about innovations in the industry.

No, you are the absolut dumbest person one could meet on all of usenet.
You alone achieve making apple user look like the idiots most of them really
are

> why are you so against the best technology anyway?

Because it isn't the best. Never was, and never will be
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Friedrich Schiller

"Hachiroku ハチ�*ク" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

>How much are they paying you to shill? And, why are you including the
>Verizon group? Can you use the damn thing as a phone?

This moron (Oxy) is a deluded drooling fanboi.
Prone to wild speculation and making insanely ludicrous statements.

VZW group? To troll.

Apple should pay him to shut up.
His antics actually makes them look bad.

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:24:22 -0700, Oxford <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> >This Keynote was WAY beyond what anyone expected. The iPad 2 officially
>> >wins 90% of the tablet market for the next 10 years. Nobody is even
>> >remotely close to what was announced today.
>>
>> For the next 10 years? Then Apple is wasting its time working on the
>> iPad 3?
>
>not sure what you mean? of course apple will continue to race ahead,
>that's why i said ten years. the ipad 2 is just a stepping stone to the
>ipad 3 you moron.

I wasn't the one who said the iPad 2 officially wins 90% of the tablet
market for the next 10 years.

In ten years, the iPad 2 will be remembered as an incremental
improvement over the iPad, followed by other incremental improvements
after.

I wouldn't call others morons without looking in the mirror first.

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than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

On Mar 3, 3:43*am, ZnU <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> *Hachiroku �n�`���N <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 02:32:44 +0000, Justin wrote:
>
> > > Oxford wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:03:35 -0700]:
> > >> Steve Jobs today released a Revolution on top of a Revolution!
>
> > >> This Keynote was WAY beyond what anyone expected. The iPad 2 officially
> > >> wins 90% of the tablet market for the next 10 years. Nobody is even
> > >> remotely close to what was announced today.
>
> > >> 33% Thinner!
> > >> 2 Cameras / Back is HD
> > >> 1.3 Pounds
>
> > > So... still too heavy
>
> > >> 9 Times Faster Video
>
> > > Um, OK. What does this mean? 9 times faster video? so I can watch a 30
> > > minute show in 3 minutes?
>
> > >> Still $499
>
> > > Still way too expensive
>
> > This guy an Apple shill, or what?
>
> > And, does he know Apples are made at the SAME Foxconn plant in China that
> > makes, Dell, HP, Compaq and others?
>
> Some people seem to think you can just call up Foxconn and say "Give me
> a million tablets with the same components as the iPad. I'll e-mail some
> CAD files with the case design".
>

HAHAHAHAHA

Last week this Znu asshole said he was an expert at video engineering.
This week he's an expert at running a production line..... IN CHINA.

nospam wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Oxford
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> $3500 is achievable is my point.
>
> and you're a blithering idiot

Please don't insult the real blithering idiots out there by comparing them to
Oxford.

That guy singledhandly achieves that Mac users universally are regarded as
dimwitted cretins with no competence whatsoever

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Justin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Have you tried using internet in a hotel? It's always a crap shoot as to
> the speed and what you can and can't connect to. What ports are blocked, etc.

nonsense, most hotels & motels are fine with internet service. just make
sure you are using a mac. sounds like you are still using linux or
windows.

"Kirby Grant" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Apparently Apple took a lot of flack for their heavy-handed approach in
> changing the usage of the side switch. They've decided to make it
> customizable - all those pesky and noisy consumers must have been pretty
> convincing.

yes, apple is the king of listening to customers. apple was trying to
provide consistency with the ipod touch and iphone, but now there is the
option of locking orientation. sweet.

ZnU <[email protected]> wrote:

> > And, does he know Apples are made at the SAME Foxconn plant in China that
> > makes, Dell, HP, Compaq and others?
>
> Some people seem to think you can just call up Foxconn and say "Give me
> a million tablets with the same components as the iPad. I'll e-mail some
> CAD files with the case design".
>
> It doesn't work like that. Foxconn (and similar companies) don't make
> most of the components in the devices they assemble. Apple and other
> vendors have to find suppliers and make deals for each component. As a
> consequence of Apple's huge cash horde and the vast quantities they
> order of a given component (remember, Apple has a significant share of
> the market with only a few devices; the rest of the market is split over
> dozens of devices), favorable deals on key components can allow Apple
> access to items others don't have access to, or result in lower prices
> for Apple than others pay.
>
> This is a significant part of the reason other vendors are having such a
> hard time matching Apple's iPad pricing.
>
> And something like quality control, when a vendor has their products
> manufactured by Foxconn or similar, is specified _by the vendor_.
>
> This whole "Everything is made at Foxconn; it's all the same" argument
> has essentially no relationship to reality.

correct answer ZnU. a vendor can "also" specify build quality, apple
currently has the highest production standards and the sheer volume
keeps the costs low. the xoom is probably in the 80% range of an apple
ipad, but if they only sell 600,000 in 1 quarter, their costs are going
to be far higher compared to 6,000,000 units of the ipad.

nobody is going to beat apple in quality for years to come, the ethos of
"perfection" runs too deep inside apple.

Howard Brazee <[email protected]> wrote:

> >not sure what you mean? of course apple will continue to race ahead,
> >that's why i said ten years. the ipad 2 is just a stepping stone to the
> >ipad 3 you moron.
>
> I wasn't the one who said the iPad 2 officially wins 90% of the tablet
> market for the next 10 years.

yes, you got hung up on the "2", but as we all know there will be a 3,
4, 5... etc... that's why no competitors will be able to catch up at
this point. they are still on beta 0.8

> In ten years, the iPad 2 will be remembered as an incremental
> improvement over the iPad, followed by other incremental improvements
> after.

no, the Pad 2 was a massive improvement. 2 cameras, 2 times faster,
photobooth, 33% thinner, 1080p Mirroring, 3G on both Verizon and ATT,
hdmi out, etc.

> I wouldn't call others morons without looking in the mirror first.

i'm the one with the factual information, not you. so keep that in mind.

On 2011-03-03, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
> ZnU <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > And, does he know Apples are made at the SAME Foxconn plant in China that
>> > makes, Dell, HP, Compaq and others?
>>
>> Some people seem to think you can just call up Foxconn and say "Give me
>> a million tablets with the same components as the iPad. I'll e-mail some
>> CAD files with the case design".
>>
>> It doesn't work like that. Foxconn (and similar companies) don't make
>> most of the components in the devices they assemble. Apple and other
>> vendors have to find suppliers and make deals for each component. As a
>> consequence of Apple's huge cash horde and the vast quantities they
>> order of a given component (remember, Apple has a significant share of
>> the market with only a few devices; the rest of the market is split over
>> dozens of devices), favorable deals on key components can allow Apple
>> access to items others don't have access to, or result in lower prices
>> for Apple than others pay.
>>
>> This is a significant part of the reason other vendors are having such a
>> hard time matching Apple's iPad pricing.
>>
>> And something like quality control, when a vendor has their products
>> manufactured by Foxconn or similar, is specified _by the vendor_.
>>
>> This whole "Everything is made at Foxconn; it's all the same" argument
>> has essentially no relationship to reality.
>
> correct answer ZnU. a vendor can "also" specify build quality, apple
> currently has the highest production standards and the sheer volume

You keep saying that as if it were some sort of article of faith.

Meanwhile, plenty of us have direct experience to the contrary.

[deletia]

Foxconn is just an assembly line for other components from other
companies. They put the same standard parts together for a lot of
different vendors, including Apple.

Very little of an Apple is actually under Apple's control really.
This would be true even if Apple ran their own assembly plant in
Cupertino.

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On 2011-03-03, Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote:
> At 03 Mar 2011 15:25:42 +0000 Justin wrote:
>> Todd Allcock wrote on [Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:03:59 -0700]:
>> > At 03 Mar 2011 05:18:05 +0000 Justin wrote:
>> >> Todd Allcock wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:03:59 -0700]:
>> >> > At 03 Mar 2011 02:32:44 +0000 Justin wrote:
>> >> >> Oxford wrote on [Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:03:35 -0700]:
>> >> >> > Still $499
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Still way too expensive
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Perhaps, but $349 isn't. I almost pulled the trigger on a refurb
>> >>
>> >> For the smallest memory version? When a single video file can be
> over a
>> > GB
>> >> it's rather limited
>> >
>> >
>> > More is always better, but 16GB is sufficient for a trip, and you can
>> > change the content (or stream) when at home or in hotel.
>>
>> Have you tried using internet in a hotel? It's always a crap shoot as to
>> the speed and what you can and can't connect to. What ports are
> blocked, etc.
>>
>
> The glass is always half empty with you, isn't it?
>
> I use hotel WiFi quite often, thanks. I've never really had a problem
> with Netflix or LogMeIn, and if all else fails, there's always cell data.
>

...well, that leads to all sorts of complcations with roaming and the
possibility that you might come home to a 5 figure phone bill. Although
that's a problem with phone type devices in general. Although it's
aggrivated by always-on psuedo computers that like to chase their own tails.

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