reply to discussion
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 26
  1. #1
    SMS
    Guest
    AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    customers that they announced a few months ago:

    http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm

    I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    other entities that offer free wi-fi.

    It may be time to implement traffic shaping. At the very least I'd set
    up the routers to 802.11b only to slow access and discourage the
    downloading of huge video files.



    See More: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?




  2. #2
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    SMS wrote on [Wed, 04 May 2011 12:09:28 -0700]:
    > AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    > customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >
    > http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >
    > I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    > other entities that offer free wi-fi.
    >
    > It may be time to implement traffic shaping. At the very least I'd set
    > up the routers to 802.11b only to slow access and discourage the
    > downloading of huge video files.


    802.11b is still plenty fast enough to transfer video, however you get 10 people
    using it and it's going to be crawling.

    Traffic shaping by the few businesses that offer free wifi to customers
    is an extra expense and headache. These systems are usually setup
    to run themselves with the occasional unplug/plug back in routine as the
    only debugging method.





  3. #3
    Paul Miner
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    On Wed, 04 May 2011 12:09:28 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    >customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >
    >http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >
    >I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    >other entities that offer free wi-fi.


    I think you meant to say decreasing, not increasing.

    >It may be time to implement traffic shaping. At the very least I'd set
    >up the routers to 802.11b only to slow access and discourage the
    >downloading of huge video files.


    No need to do traffic shaping as a separate step. Get a few people
    actively using a wireless hotspot and traffic shaping happens
    automatically, if by traffic shaping you mean performance that drags
    down to nothing.

    --
    Paul Miner



  4. #4
    Larry Mobile
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:4dc1a468$0$22125
    [email protected]:

    > AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    > customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >
    > http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >
    > I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    > other entities that offer free wi-fi.
    >
    > It may be time to implement traffic shaping. At the very least I'd set
    > up the routers to 802.11b only to slow access and discourage the
    > downloading of huge video files.
    >


    802.11b is 11Mbps. Hardly throttling the pinholes sold as DSl broadband.



  5. #5
    Larry Mobile
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    Justin <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > These systems are usually setup
    > to run themselves with the occasional unplug/plug back in routine as the
    > only debugging method.
    >
    >


    When I implemented the 12Mbps down/3Mbps up cable internet for a local
    pizza shop, I added the smallest available UPS to the equipment list which
    has resulted in spotless service with no plug/unplug nonsense, usually
    caused by power glitches in restaurants.

    Works great....You can run a server at your table and noone else notices!




  6. #6
    The Ghost of General Lee
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    On Wed, 04 May 2011 12:09:28 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    >customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >
    >http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >
    >I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    >other entities that offer free wi-fi.
    >


    I don't think the caps apply to business accounts. I have a few
    customers who have AT&T DSL and none have told me they have received a
    cap notice.

    And from the story you referenced:

    "But AT&T isn't alone in instituting restrictions on residential
    broadband usage."



  7. #7
    NotMe
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?


    "The Ghost of General Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Wed, 04 May 2011 12:09:28 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    >>customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >>
    >>http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >>
    >>I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    >>other entities that offer free wi-fi.
    >>

    >
    > I don't think the caps apply to business accounts. I have a few
    > customers who have AT&T DSL and none have told me they have received a
    > cap notice.
    >
    > And from the story you referenced:
    >
    > "But AT&T isn't alone in instituting restrictions on residential
    > broadband usage."


    One step at a time.





  8. #8
    Ryan P.
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    On 5/4/2011 2:09 PM, SMS wrote:
    > AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    > customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >
    > http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >
    > I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    > other entities that offer free wi-fi.
    >
    > It may be time to implement traffic shaping. At the very least I'd set
    > up the routers to 802.11b only to slow access and discourage the
    > downloading of huge video files.


    If they can stick to it, 250GB is not really a cap... Except for the
    people constantly running torrents, I don't see who else that would effect.





  9. #9
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    Ryan P. wrote on [Thu, 05 May 2011 21:54:47 -0500]:
    > On 5/4/2011 2:09 PM, SMS wrote:
    >> AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    >> customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >>
    >> http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >>
    >> I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    >> other entities that offer free wi-fi.
    >>
    >> It may be time to implement traffic shaping. At the very least I'd set
    >> up the routers to 802.11b only to slow access and discourage the
    >> downloading of huge video files.

    >
    > If they can stick to it, 250GB is not really a cap... Except for the
    > people constantly running torrents, I don't see who else that would effect.


    Do we really need to go through this again?

    4 hours of HD streaming per day is 248GB.

    Stay at home spouse, kids, multiple streams running at once and you
    have hit your cap with ONLY video.





  10. #10
    Paul Miner
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    On Thu, 05 May 2011 21:54:47 -0500, "Ryan P."
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On 5/4/2011 2:09 PM, SMS wrote:
    >> AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    >> customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >>
    >> http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >>
    >> I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    >> other entities that offer free wi-fi.
    >>
    >> It may be time to implement traffic shaping. At the very least I'd set
    >> up the routers to 802.11b only to slow access and discourage the
    >> downloading of huge video files.

    >
    > If they can stick to it, 250GB is not really a cap... Except for the
    >people constantly running torrents, I don't see who else that would effect.


    Is it worth pointing out that torrents are only one of many scenarios
    that have the potential for usage of large amounts of data? Besides,
    at&t's DSL customers are capped at 150GB rather than 250GB.

    --
    Paul Miner



  11. #11
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    On 5/5/2011 7:54 PM, Ryan P. wrote:
    > On 5/4/2011 2:09 PM, SMS wrote:
    >> AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    >> customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >>
    >> http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >>
    >> I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    >> other entities that offer free wi-fi.
    >>
    >> It may be time to implement traffic shaping. At the very least I'd set
    >> up the routers to 802.11b only to slow access and discourage the
    >> downloading of huge video files.

    >
    > If they can stick to it, 250GB is not really a cap... Except for the
    > people constantly running torrents, I don't see who else that would effect.


    Both AT&T and Comcast don't want unlimited data being used to get around
    subscribing to digital HDTV service and buying movies. You could get to
    250GB downloading a lot of HD video. Netflix dreams of getting away from
    shipping DVDs by piggybacking on unlimited broadband data. Video on
    demand was not supposed to involve the USPS and a two day lag time.




  12. #12
    The Ghost of General Lee
    Guest

    Re: Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    On Thu, 05 May 2011 22:20:34 -0500, Paul Miner
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Thu, 05 May 2011 21:54:47 -0500, "Ryan P."
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>On 5/4/2011 2:09 PM, SMS wrote:
    >>> AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    >>> customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >>>
    >>> http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >>>
    >>> I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    >>> other entities that offer free wi-fi.
    >>>
    >>> It may be time to implement traffic shaping. At the very least I'd set
    >>> up the routers to 802.11b only to slow access and discourage the
    >>> downloading of huge video files.

    >>
    >> If they can stick to it, 250GB is not really a cap... Except for the
    >>people constantly running torrents, I don't see who else that would effect.

    >
    >Is it worth pointing out that torrents are only one of many scenarios
    >that have the potential for usage of large amounts of data? Besides,
    >at&t's DSL customers are capped at 150GB rather than 250GB.


    Not trying to excuse AT&T, but it's still better than the 60GB cap
    they were talking about when they instituted their cap test markets.



  13. #13
    Paul Miner
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    On Fri, 06 May 2011 05:16:18 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Thu, 05 May 2011 22:20:34 -0500, Paul Miner
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Is it worth pointing out that torrents are only one of many scenarios
    >>that have the potential for usage of large amounts of data? Besides,
    >>at&t's DSL customers are capped at 150GB rather than 250GB.

    >
    >Not trying to excuse AT&T, but it's still better than the 60GB cap
    >they were talking about when they instituted their cap test markets.


    Most definitely!

    --
    Paul Miner



  14. #14
    Ryan P.
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    On 5/5/2011 10:05 PM, Justin wrote:
    > Ryan P. wrote on [Thu, 05 May 2011 21:54:47 -0500]:
    >> On 5/4/2011 2:09 PM, SMS wrote:
    >>> AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    >>> customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >>>
    >>> http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >>>
    >>> I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    >>> other entities that offer free wi-fi.
    >>>
    >>> It may be time to implement traffic shaping. At the very least I'd set
    >>> up the routers to 802.11b only to slow access and discourage the
    >>> downloading of huge video files.

    >>
    >> If they can stick to it, 250GB is not really a cap... Except for the
    >> people constantly running torrents, I don't see who else that would effect.

    >
    > Do we really need to go through this again?
    >
    > 4 hours of HD streaming per day is 248GB.
    >
    > Stay at home spouse, kids, multiple streams running at once and you
    > have hit your cap with ONLY video.


    Now let's get back to reality, and look at people's actually data
    speeds. If you've got a typical 10Mb connection, you're only capable of
    downloading 4.7GB per hour, assuming you get 100% of your rated speed.
    That's 53 hours of transfer time before you could even theoretically
    reach 250GB.

    Let's also look at what any of these streaming services are actually
    streaming... They are NOT streaming you 248GB of data for 4 hours of movie.

    Unless you think that the average person has an ISP offering them
    507,904Mb service?

    The theoretical speed of Verizon's FIOS is 50Mb. The highest speed
    U-Verse offers is 24Mb.

    So how exactly is anybody supposed to use up 248GB in 4 hours?



  15. #15
    Ryan P.
    Guest

    Re: How will new AT&T DSL/Uverse Caps Affect Free Wi-Fi?

    On 5/5/2011 10:20 PM, Paul Miner wrote:
    > On Thu, 05 May 2011 21:54:47 -0500, "Ryan P."
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> On 5/4/2011 2:09 PM, SMS wrote:
    >>> AT&T is now implementing the capped bandwidth for broadband and DSL
    >>> customers that they announced a few months ago:
    >>>
    >>> http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/03/tech...caps/index.htm
    >>>
    >>> I wonder how this will affect the increasing number of businesses and
    >>> other entities that offer free wi-fi.
    >>>
    >>> It may be time to implement traffic shaping. At the very least I'd set
    >>> up the routers to 802.11b only to slow access and discourage the
    >>> downloading of huge video files.

    >>
    >> If they can stick to it, 250GB is not really a cap... Except for the
    >> people constantly running torrents, I don't see who else that would effect.

    >
    > Is it worth pointing out that torrents are only one of many scenarios
    > that have the potential for usage of large amounts of data? Besides,
    > at&t's DSL customers are capped at 150GB rather than 250GB.
    >


    I was referring to U-Verse, which will apparently be 250GB vs their
    DSL which will indeed be 150GB.

    I know data can get used up in a hurry.. Justin mentioned streaming HD
    video from some online provider. There is only so much bandwidth
    available per second to us, though.



  • Similar Threads







  • Quick Reply Quick Reply

    If you are already a member, please login above.