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- 01-09-2004, 03:49 PM #1XFFGuest
The cellular license maps for the north-central (great plains) states
have been posted earlier this week. This completes the initial puzzle
and we now have complete cellular license maps for the lower 48 states
available at http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html Take
a look and let me know if you have any comments or corrections.
Enjoy!
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- 01-09-2004, 07:25 PM #2Dean MGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
Wow. A lotta very nice work there.
Thank You!!
Dean
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XFF wrote:
> The cellular license maps for the north-central (great plains) states
> have been posted earlier this week. This completes the initial puzzle
> and we now have complete cellular license maps for the lower 48 states
> available at http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html Take
> a look and let me know if you have any comments or corrections.
> Enjoy!
- 01-10-2004, 05:53 AM #3Nathan AndersonGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
On 9 Jan 2004, XFF wrote:
> The cellular license maps for the north-central (great plains) states
> have been posted earlier this week. This completes the initial puzzle
> and we now have complete cellular license maps for the lower 48 states
> available at http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html Take
> a look and let me know if you have any comments or corrections.
> Enjoy!
Can Verizon just please buy out Inland Cellular's B-side licenses for
WA/ID? PLEASE?!?
BTW, good job on the map. ;-)
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- 01-10-2004, 07:32 AM #4Jerome ZelinskeGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
I guess I'm a little color blind in that I find it difficult to
tell the difference between cingular and uscellular. I am looking at
the maps that include WI.
XFF wrote:
> The cellular license maps for the north-central (great plains) states
> have been posted earlier this week. This completes the initial puzzle
> and we now have complete cellular license maps for the lower 48 states
> available at http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html Take
> a look and let me know if you have any comments or corrections.
> Enjoy!
- 01-10-2004, 08:27 AM #5Larry FortuneGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
GREAT Map....now for a stupid question...what is the difference between side
A and B?...I have never understood that.
Thanks for you information,
Larry
"XFF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The cellular license maps for the north-central (great plains) states
> have been posted earlier this week. This completes the initial puzzle
> and we now have complete cellular license maps for the lower 48 states
> available at http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html Take
> a look and let me know if you have any comments or corrections.
> Enjoy!
- 01-10-2004, 11:41 AM #6John CummingsGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
"Larry Fortune" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9ZTLb.14302$5V2.20501@attbi_s53...
> GREAT Map....now for a stupid question...what is the difference between
side
> A and B?...I have never understood that.
>
> Thanks for you information,
> Larry
>
> "XFF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > The cellular license maps for the north-central (great plains) states
> > have been posted earlier this week. This completes the initial puzzle
> > and we now have complete cellular license maps for the lower 48 states
> > available at http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html Take
> > a look and let me know if you have any comments or corrections.
> > Enjoy!
You can see the band plan here:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/cel.../bandplan.html
John C.
- 01-10-2004, 12:10 PM #7David R. GoyerGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
Great map! Thanks for all the work!
David R. Goyer
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"XFF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The cellular license maps for the north-central (great plains) states
> have been posted earlier this week. This completes the initial puzzle
> and we now have complete cellular license maps for the lower 48 states
> available at http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html Take
> a look and let me know if you have any comments or corrections.
> Enjoy!
- 01-10-2004, 12:16 PM #8Larry FortuneGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
Thanks...both good answers....so when I am in a city and say Verizon has one
side (A or B) is that the side I am using?
If Verizon has neither (A or B) is that when I use another provider either
in extended mode or roam?
"Larry Fortune" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9ZTLb.14302$5V2.20501@attbi_s53...
> GREAT Map....now for a stupid question...what is the difference between
side
> A and B?...I have never understood that.
>
> Thanks for you information,
> Larry
>
> "XFF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > The cellular license maps for the north-central (great plains) states
> > have been posted earlier this week. This completes the initial puzzle
> > and we now have complete cellular license maps for the lower 48 states
> > available at http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html Take
> > a look and let me know if you have any comments or corrections.
> > Enjoy!
>
>
- 01-10-2004, 12:37 PM #9Jerome ZelinskeGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
Or verizon pcs.
Larry Fortune wrote:
> Thanks...both good answers....so when I am in a city and say Verizon has one
> side (A or B) is that the side I am using?
>
> If Verizon has neither (A or B) is that when I use another provider either
> in extended mode or roam?
>
>
> "Larry Fortune" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:9ZTLb.14302$5V2.20501@attbi_s53...
>
>>GREAT Map....now for a stupid question...what is the difference between
>
> side
>
>>A and B?...I have never understood that.
>>
>>Thanks for you information,
>>Larry
>>
>>"XFF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>The cellular license maps for the north-central (great plains) states
>>>have been posted earlier this week. This completes the initial puzzle
>>>and we now have complete cellular license maps for the lower 48 states
>>>available at http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html Take
>>>a look and let me know if you have any comments or corrections.
>>>Enjoy!
>>
>>
>
>
- 01-10-2004, 02:26 PM #10John CummingsGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
"Larry Fortune" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:TjXLb.15986$5V2.24082@attbi_s53...
> Thanks...both good answers....so when I am in a city and say Verizon has
one
> side (A or B) is that the side I am using?
>
> If Verizon has neither (A or B) is that when I use another provider either
> in extended mode or roam?
Only if Verizon doesn't have a PCS system operating there
(Florida, Dallas, New Orleans, etc.).
John C.
- 01-10-2004, 03:54 PM #11XFFGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
"Larry Fortune" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<9ZTLb.14302$5V2.20501@attbi_s53>...
> GREAT Map....now for a stupid question...what is the difference between side
> A and B?...I have never understood that.
When the cellular spectrum was licensed in the early 80's, it was
split into two chunks of equal size (25 MHz each) and each chunk (one
of which is known as the A-side license and the other one as the
B-side license) was licensed independently to different companies to
spur competition and accelerate buildout and growth of the network.
Originally, the B-side license was given to the incumbent local
telephone company and the A-side license was auctioned off to the
highest bidder. Due to license aggregation, dis-aggregation, mergers,
and aquisitions, this distinction no longer exists and most major
wireless carriers hold both A-side and B-side licenses in different
markets.
In fact, out of the top 9 cellular carriers, 6 hold both A-side and
B-side licenses (VZW, Cingular, ALLTEL, USCC, Dobson, and RCC) whereas
3 only hold A-side licenses (ATTWS, WWCA, and Centennial). For
details on the frequency assignments for A-side and B-side see
http://tk.com/wireless/
- 01-10-2004, 04:00 PM #12XFFGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
Jerome Zelinske <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I guess I'm a little color blind in that I find it difficult to
> tell the difference between cingular and uscellular. I am looking at
> the maps that include WI.
In WI, USCC only holds A-side licenses and Cingular only holds B-side
licenses, so that should be easy to distinguish. In general, some of
these maps are pushing 10 to 15 or even 20 colors, so it's hard to
find a color scheme that provides sufficient contrast between each set
of adjacent colors. I have found that CRT monitors show the nuances
between similar colors better than LCD monitors, but your milage may
vary.
- 01-10-2004, 11:08 PM #13Larry W4CSCGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
Thanks for the pointer. Now I see why Nextel works so good in
Charleston, SC....
http://tk.com/wireless/smr/b026.shtml
On 10 Jan 2004 13:54:43 -0800, [email protected] (XFF) wrote:
>"Larry Fortune" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<9ZTLb.14302$5V2.20501@attbi_s53>...
>> GREAT Map....now for a stupid question...what is the difference between side
>> A and B?...I have never understood that.
>
>When the cellular spectrum was licensed in the early 80's, it was
>split into two chunks of equal size (25 MHz each) and each chunk (one
>of which is known as the A-side license and the other one as the
>B-side license) was licensed independently to different companies to
>spur competition and accelerate buildout and growth of the network.
>
>Originally, the B-side license was given to the incumbent local
>telephone company and the A-side license was auctioned off to the
>highest bidder. Due to license aggregation, dis-aggregation, mergers,
>and aquisitions, this distinction no longer exists and most major
>wireless carriers hold both A-side and B-side licenses in different
>markets.
>
>In fact, out of the top 9 cellular carriers, 6 hold both A-side and
>B-side licenses (VZW, Cingular, ALLTEL, USCC, Dobson, and RCC) whereas
>3 only hold A-side licenses (ATTWS, WWCA, and Centennial). For
>details on the frequency assignments for A-side and B-side see
>http://tk.com/wireless/
- 01-11-2004, 07:19 AM #14Jerome ZelinskeGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
Perhaps incorporating dots, stripes, hash marks, x's, etc., would
help.
XFF wrote:
> Jerome Zelinske <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>
>>I guess I'm a little color blind in that I find it difficult to
>>tell the difference between cingular and uscellular. I am looking at
>>the maps that include WI.
>
>
> In WI, USCC only holds A-side licenses and Cingular only holds B-side
> licenses, so that should be easy to distinguish. In general, some of
> these maps are pushing 10 to 15 or even 20 colors, so it's hard to
> find a color scheme that provides sufficient contrast between each set
> of adjacent colors. I have found that CRT monitors show the nuances
> between similar colors better than LCD monitors, but your milage may
> vary.
- 01-13-2004, 03:46 PM #15RichGuest
Re: Cellular License Maps complete for the lower 48 states
Russ wrote:
> [email protected] (XFF) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>The cellular license maps for the north-central (great plains) states
>>have been posted earlier this week. This completes the initial puzzle
>>and we now have complete cellular license maps for the lower 48 states
>>available at http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html Take
>>a look and let me know if you have any comments or corrections.
>>Enjoy!
>
>
> Great map. I'm wondering though why Sprint and Nextel don't show up at all.
These maps show the licenses for the Cellular Band (A and B side).
These are in the 800 MHz range. Nextel uses spectrum that isn't in the
cellular band - it is the SMR band. This is also near or in the 800 MHz
range, but different from the cellular band, so it not listed. Spring
(along with other carriers) use PCS band in the 1900 MHz range which
uses different licenses than the cellular band, and these maps don't
show that info either.
Rich
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