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Old 03-03-2004, 05:05 PM   #1
Jack SaturnOwner
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7PM night = rumor or really going to happen?


I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March Cingular
was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
Is that fact or fiction?


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Old 03-03-2004, 07:41 PM   #2
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You posted to multiple newsgroups, are you trying to start a rumor or hoping
the Carriers will see this take it as a suggestion?

Scotty


"Jack SaturnOwner" <carqs123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:51865b53.0403031606.73330bb1@posting.google.c om...
> I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March Verizon
> was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
> Is that fact or fiction?



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Old 03-03-2004, 08:20 PM   #3
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I think he's just starting a rumor.


"Scott Nelson" <spamcop@bnmnetworks.net> wrote in message
news:wHw1c.40010$C65.38583@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> You posted to multiple newsgroups, are you trying to start a rumor or

hoping
> the Carriers will see this take it as a suggestion?
>
> Scotty
>
>
> "Jack SaturnOwner" <carqs123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:51865b53.0403031606.73330bb1@posting.google.c om...
> > I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March Verizon
> > was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
> > Is that fact or fiction?

>
>



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Old 03-04-2004, 02:40 AM   #4
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It would be nice if Verizon does the 7pm nights. Rumor or not, it still
would be ok with me, but, not like it's going to happen.



"BENJAMIN SKVERSKY" <bskversky@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:8gx1c.7334$YN5.4878@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> I think he's just starting a rumor.
>
>
> "Scott Nelson" <spamcop@bnmnetworks.net> wrote in message
> news:wHw1c.40010$C65.38583@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> > You posted to multiple newsgroups, are you trying to start a rumor or

> hoping
> > the Carriers will see this take it as a suggestion?
> >
> > Scotty
> >
> >
> > "Jack SaturnOwner" <carqs123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:51865b53.0403031606.73330bb1@posting.google.c om...
> > > I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March Verizon
> > > was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
> > > Is that fact or fiction?

> >
> >

>
>



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Old 03-04-2004, 07:55 AM   #5
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It would be nice for US and not them.

The other smaller carriers are doing it to be more competitive with
Verizon/Cingular. They are hoping to make up for the inconvenience of less
coverage area.
There is still rush hour traffic after 7 pm. Carriers don't make much money
from nights and weekends, they make most of their money from business users.
These same business users who commute home after work.

I don't think they are really thinking about doing this.

My .02 anyway ;-)

Scotty

"Someone" <No-spam-here@No-way.com> wrote in message
news:ac8610c373ebd2116976af342bc3cfd8@news.teranew s.com...
> It would be nice if Verizon does the 7pm nights. Rumor or not, it still
> would be ok with me, but, not like it's going to happen.
>
>
>
> "BENJAMIN SKVERSKY" <bskversky@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:8gx1c.7334$YN5.4878@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> > I think he's just starting a rumor.
> >
> >
> > "Scott Nelson" <spamcop@bnmnetworks.net> wrote in message
> > news:wHw1c.40010$C65.38583@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> > > You posted to multiple newsgroups, are you trying to start a rumor or

> > hoping
> > > the Carriers will see this take it as a suggestion?
> > >
> > > Scotty
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jack SaturnOwner" <carqs123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:51865b53.0403031606.73330bb1@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March Verizon
> > > > was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
> > > > Is that fact or fiction?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



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Old 03-04-2004, 08:23 AM   #6
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The western region was 8 pm until sometime in 2002. I can't change plans
now, or I lose 8 pm.

Verizon is very sly when they increase prices. It's usually by taking away
something that will cause more extra charges, rather than simply raising the
base price.

"Someone" <No-spam-here@No-way.com> wrote in message
news:ac8610c373ebd2116976af342bc3cfd8@news.teranew s.com...
> It would be nice if Verizon does the 7pm nights. Rumor or not, it still
> would be ok with me, but, not like it's going to happen.
>
>
>
> "BENJAMIN SKVERSKY" <bskversky@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:8gx1c.7334$YN5.4878@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> > I think he's just starting a rumor.
> >
> >
> > "Scott Nelson" <spamcop@bnmnetworks.net> wrote in message
> > news:wHw1c.40010$C65.38583@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> > > You posted to multiple newsgroups, are you trying to start a rumor or

> > hoping
> > > the Carriers will see this take it as a suggestion?
> > >
> > > Scotty
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jack SaturnOwner" <carqs123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:51865b53.0403031606.73330bb1@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March Verizon
> > > > was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
> > > > Is that fact or fiction?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



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Old 03-04-2004, 09:27 AM   #7
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"Scott Nelson" <spamcop@bnmnetworks.net> wrote in message
news:XrH1c.51916$C65.350@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> It would be nice for US and not them.
>
> The other smaller carriers are doing it to be more competitive with
> Verizon/Cingular. They are hoping to make up for the inconvenience of less
> coverage area.
> There is still rush hour traffic after 7 pm. Carriers don't make much

money
> from nights and weekends, they make most of their money from business

users.
> These same business users who commute home after work.
>
> I don't think they are really thinking about doing this.
>
> My .02 anyway ;-)
>
> Scotty


When I signed up for Cingular late last year, they had a 7/7 deal going.
For $7 per month per line, your 5000 N/W minutes start at 7PM Monday through
Friday. So unless they've nixed that deal very recently, 7PM nights are
more than just a rumor. I think it's worth the extra $7 per month, as most
of our calls are made between 7PM and ~ 8:30-ish.

Now if Cingular was going to offer 7PM for FREE, that would be nice. But I
haven't heard anything about that. Just thought I'd post that you can have
7PM on cingular if you want it. -Dave


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Old 03-04-2004, 10:12 AM   #8
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"Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message
news:TRH1c.18737$yZ1.7166@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
> The western region was 8 pm until sometime in 2002. I can't change plans
> now, or I lose 8 pm.
>
> Verizon is very sly when they increase prices. It's usually by taking away
> something that will cause more extra charges, rather than simply raising

the
> base price.


You're being magnanimous when you use the term "sly."

>
> "Someone" <No-spam-here@No-way.com> wrote in message
> news:ac8610c373ebd2116976af342bc3cfd8@news.teranew s.com...
> > It would be nice if Verizon does the 7pm nights. Rumor or not, it still
> > would be ok with me, but, not like it's going to happen.
> >
> >
> >
> > "BENJAMIN SKVERSKY" <bskversky@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:8gx1c.7334$YN5.4878@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> > > I think he's just starting a rumor.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Scott Nelson" <spamcop@bnmnetworks.net> wrote in message
> > > news:wHw1c.40010$C65.38583@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> > > > You posted to multiple newsgroups, are you trying to start a rumor

or
> > > hoping
> > > > the Carriers will see this take it as a suggestion?
> > > >
> > > > Scotty
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jack SaturnOwner" <carqs123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:51865b53.0403031606.73330bb1@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March

Verizon
> > > > > was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
> > > > > Is that fact or fiction?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



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Old 03-04-2004, 10:17 AM   #9
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I remember back in the day 1994 my first provider, Cellular One. They
had 7a to 7p was peak and 7p to 7a was non peak...I loved the hours but
if they had unlimited N/WKD like we do now .... :-)


Someone wrote:
> It would be nice if Verizon does the 7pm nights. Rumor or not, it still
> would be ok with me, but, not like it's going to happen.
>
>
>
> "BENJAMIN SKVERSKY" <bskversky@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:8gx1c.7334$YN5.4878@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
>
>>I think he's just starting a rumor.
>>
>>
>>"Scott Nelson" <spamcop@bnmnetworks.net> wrote in message
>>news:wHw1c.40010$C65.38583@nwrddc01.gnilink.net. ..
>>
>>>You posted to multiple newsgroups, are you trying to start a rumor or

>>
>>hoping
>>
>>>the Carriers will see this take it as a suggestion?
>>>
>>>Scotty
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jack SaturnOwner" <carqs123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:51865b53.0403031606.73330bb1@posting.googl e.com...
>>>
>>>>I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March Verizon
>>>>was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
>>>>Is that fact or fiction?
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>

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Old 03-07-2004, 04:46 PM   #10
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:27:46 -0500, "Dave C."
<spammersdie@ahorribledeath.now> chose to add this to the great equation of
life, the universe, and everything:

>When I signed up for Cingular late last year, they had a 7/7 deal going.
>For $7 per month per line, your 5000 N/W minutes start at 7PM Monday through
>Friday. So unless they've nixed that deal very recently, 7PM nights are
>more than just a rumor. I think it's worth the extra $7 per month, as most
>of our calls are made between 7PM and ~ 8:30-ish.
>
>Now if Cingular was going to offer 7PM for FREE, that would be nice. But I
>haven't heard anything about that. Just thought I'd post that you can have
>7PM on cingular if you want it. -Dave


Which is all fine and dandy, but the OP specified Verizon (which begs the
question of why he crossposted to the Cingular and Nextel groups).

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Old 03-07-2004, 05:45 PM   #11
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"David S" <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message
news:55dm40l37jqh5tbusi7bkd9nngtc2q4lot@4ax.com...

>
> Which is all fine and dandy, but the OP specified Verizon (which begs the
> question of why he crossposted to the Cingular and Nextel groups).
>


Actually, he tailored his message to the appropriate carrier in each
newsgroup.


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Old 03-07-2004, 08:29 PM   #12
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"Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:ZoidncblAPuhVdbdRVn-sA@adelphia.com...
>
> "David S" <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message
> news:55dm40l37jqh5tbusi7bkd9nngtc2q4lot@4ax.com...
>
> >
> > Which is all fine and dandy, but the OP specified Verizon (which begs

the
> > question of why he crossposted to the Cingular and Nextel groups).
> >

>
> Actually, he tailored his message to the appropriate carrier in each
> newsgroup.
>
>


I didn't see it different, and since we are replying to the original one,
how did multiple NG's get in the newsgroup list?


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Old 03-07-2004, 08:30 PM   #13
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"David S" <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message
news:55dm40l37jqh5tbusi7bkd9nngtc2q4lot@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:27:46 -0500, "Dave C."
> <spammersdie@ahorribledeath.now> chose to add this to the great equation

of
> life, the universe, and everything:
>
> >When I signed up for Cingular late last year, they had a 7/7 deal going.
> >For $7 per month per line, your 5000 N/W minutes start at 7PM Monday

through
> >Friday. So unless they've nixed that deal very recently, 7PM nights are
> >more than just a rumor. I think it's worth the extra $7 per month, as

most
> >of our calls are made between 7PM and ~ 8:30-ish.
> >
> >Now if Cingular was going to offer 7PM for FREE, that would be nice. But

I
> >haven't heard anything about that. Just thought I'd post that you can

have
> >7PM on cingular if you want it. -Dave

>
> Which is all fine and dandy, but the OP specified Verizon (which begs the
> question of why he crossposted to the Cingular and Nextel groups).
>
> --
> David Streeter


Here's some info on using the phrase "begs the question" correctly:

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Old 03-07-2004, 09:15 PM   #14
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c2gpab$1t8b3e$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> "Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:ZoidncblAPuhVdbdRVn-sA@adelphia.com...
> >
> > "David S" <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:55dm40l37jqh5tbusi7bkd9nngtc2q4lot@4ax.com...
> >
> > >
> > > Which is all fine and dandy, but the OP specified Verizon (which begs

> the
> > > question of why he crossposted to the Cingular and Nextel groups).
> > >

> >
> > Actually, he tailored his message to the appropriate carrier in each
> > newsgroup.
> >
> >

>
> I didn't see it different, and since we are replying to the original one,
> how did multiple NG's get in the newsgroup list?
>
>


As posted to the AT&T group:

From: carqs123@hotmail.com (Jack SaturnOwner)
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.attws
Subject: 7PM night = rumor or really going to happen
Date: 3 Mar 2004 16:05:09 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 3
Message-ID: <51865b53.0403031605.665efe96@posting.google.com >
NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.78.59.147
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1078358709 27793 127.0.0.1 (4 Mar 2004 00:05:09
GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 00:05:09 +0000 (UTC)


I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March AT+T
was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
Is that fact or fiction?


As posted to Nextel:

From: carqs123@hotmail.com (Jack SaturnOwner)
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.nextel
Subject: 7PM nights = rumor or really going to happen?
Date: 3 Mar 2004 16:06:45 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 3
Message-ID: <51865b53.0403031606.4e4edc87@posting.google.com >
NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.78.59.147
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1078358806 27902 127.0.0.1 (4 Mar 2004 00:06:46
GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 00:06:46 +0000 (UTC)


I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March Nextel
was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
Is that fact or fiction?

As you can see, he trolled all of the groups, adjusting the message for the
appropriate carrier.This is simply the one thread that lives on.


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Old 03-08-2004, 03:31 AM   #15
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"Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:XeidnVo0Mu3Qbtbd4p2dnA@adelphia.com...
>
> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c2gpab$1t8b3e$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > "Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news:ZoidncblAPuhVdbdRVn-sA@adelphia.com...
> > >
> > > "David S" <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:55dm40l37jqh5tbusi7bkd9nngtc2q4lot@4ax.com...
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Which is all fine and dandy, but the OP specified Verizon (which

begs
> > the
> > > > question of why he crossposted to the Cingular and Nextel groups).
> > > >
> > >
> > > Actually, he tailored his message to the appropriate carrier in each
> > > newsgroup.
> > >
> > >

> >
> > I didn't see it different, and since we are replying to the original

one,
> > how did multiple NG's get in the newsgroup list?
> >
> >

>
> As posted to the AT&T group:
>
> From: carqs123@hotmail.com (Jack SaturnOwner)
> Newsgroups: alt.cellular.attws
> Subject: 7PM night = rumor or really going to happen
> Date: 3 Mar 2004 16:05:09 -0800
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Lines: 3
> Message-ID: <51865b53.0403031605.665efe96@posting.google.com >
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.78.59.147
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1078358709 27793 127.0.0.1 (4 Mar 2004

00:05:09
> GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 00:05:09 +0000 (UTC)
>
>
> I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March AT+T
> was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
> Is that fact or fiction?
>
>
> As posted to Nextel:
>
> From: carqs123@hotmail.com (Jack SaturnOwner)
> Newsgroups: alt.cellular.nextel
> Subject: 7PM nights = rumor or really going to happen?
> Date: 3 Mar 2004 16:06:45 -0800
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Lines: 3
> Message-ID: <51865b53.0403031606.4e4edc87@posting.google.com >
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.78.59.147
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1078358806 27902 127.0.0.1 (4 Mar 2004

00:06:46
> GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 00:06:46 +0000 (UTC)
>
>
> I've heard rumors from sales people that some time in March Nextel
> was going to change the night and weekend minutes to 7PM.
> Is that fact or fiction?
>
> As you can see, he trolled all of the groups, adjusting the message for

the
> appropriate carrier.This is simply the one thread that lives on.
>
>


Ah, you are right. Went back to google to see the original post/thread
(www.google.com), and someone replied to a previous message, but added the
extra groups to the reply...Guess that's what got the three groups started.

Message 3 in thread
From: Scott Nelson (spamcop@bnmnetworks.net)
Subject: Re: 7PM night = rumor or really going to happen?
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.verizon, alt.cellular.nextel, alt.cellular.cingular
Date: 2004-03-03 18:41:34 PST


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