How Long Until All GSM/No TDMA?

Is the end in sight for TDMA service under Cingular?
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Yes.


"(Pete Cresswell)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Is the end in sight for TDMA service under Cingular?
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> PeteCresswell

In article <[email protected]>,
"Paw-Paw" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes.

Top posting is bad.

So, if you can possibly expand on that, WHEN is the end coming for TDMA?

At some point, they'd have to tell me to go pound sand with my old
Nation account and Nokia 3360 phone--the one that works anywhere. They
haven't even come close to doing so.

I may be wrong but I have read here before about this subject. I think
people have said TDMA service will be around for about another 6-8 years...
Again thats what I have read here....It looks like 800amps is still around
in some parts and thats the old analog system......

sorry if I am wrong....correct me.....



"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Paw-Paw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yes.
>
> Top posting is bad.
>
> So, if you can possibly expand on that, WHEN is the end coming for TDMA?
>
> At some point, they'd have to tell me to go pound sand with my old
> Nation account and Nokia 3360 phone--the one that works anywhere. They
> haven't even come close to doing so.
>

>Is the end in sight for TDMA service under Cingular?

No.

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>So, if you can possibly expand on that, WHEN is the end coming for TDMA?

Probably not before I retire!

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John S.
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> It looks like 800amps is still around
> in some parts and thats the old analog system......

And in what parts is it no longer around? :-)

I am sure the FCC would be really interested to know about
any companies that are dropping AMPS coverage. :-O

"N9WOS" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > It looks like 800amps is still around
> > in some parts and thats the old analog system......
>
> And in what parts is it no longer around? :-)
>
> I am sure the FCC would be really interested to know about
> any companies that are dropping AMPS coverage. :-O

Exactly.

As AMPS is still the FCC mandated technology through the end of the
sunset period, a Cellular licensee's CGSA is defined entirely by the
extent of its AMPS footprint. Deployment of any alternative
technology (e.g. CDMA, GSM) in isolation is currently immaterial to
CGSA determination. And any complete removal of AMPS, resulting in a
decrease in coverage area, would prompt a major modification filing w/
the FCC. As such, the area previously served by AMPS would be
subtracted from the licensee's CGSA. The previously served area would
then be classified as unserved, upon which the original licensee would
forfeit all rights to deploy or provide any Cellular service - AMPS or
alternative - in the unserved area. And the unserved area would
become available for any potential entrant to submit application to
serve.

Thus, in order to avoid conceding any licensed geography, Cellular
licensees have to conscientiously maintain at least a bare minimum
AMPS capacity at each & every site whose 32 dBu contours define its
CGSA. The unfortunate caveat is that the FCC does not dictate what
proportion of the 25 MHz license must be dedicated to AMPS versus any
alternative technology, such that the bare minimum could potentially
decline to only one AMPS channel per relevant site/sector.

Andrew
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Bottom posting is DUMB. I hate scrolling down.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Paw-Paw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yes.
>
> Top posting is bad.
>
> So, if you can possibly expand on that, WHEN is the end coming for TDMA?
>
> At some point, they'd have to tell me to go pound sand with my old
> Nation account and Nokia 3360 phone--the one that works anywhere. They
> haven't even come close to doing so.
>

Since there is not FCC mandated continuance of tdma, it will
probably come soon after they have deployed gsm throughout their entire
network.
The next question is "How long until they launch WCDMA?, and "How
long until all WCDMA, no tdma?".

(Pete Cresswell) wrote:
> Is the end in sight for TDMA service under Cingular?

Oops, sorry, meant "all WCDMA, no gsm?".


Jerome Zelinske wrote:

> Since there is not FCC mandated continuance of tdma, it will
> probably come soon after they have deployed gsm throughout their entire
> network.
> The next question is "How long until they launch WCDMA?, and "How
> long until all WCDMA, no tdma?".
>
> (Pete Cresswell) wrote:
>
>> Is the end in sight for TDMA service under Cingular?
>
>

On Sat, 08 May 2004 05:42:42 GMT, "Truthicle" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Bottom posting is DUMB. I hate scrolling down.

Well, maybe if the people who post would clean up their posts and not
include each and every bit of the previous 10 messages including any
footer and header they find you wouldn't have that problem. If you
prefer to have your email exchanges like a game of Jeopardy that's
your choice.

If you cannot keep up with internet standards that have been in place
for years it's probably best that you don't get on the net and leave
it for people who do now how to use the net and are familiar with
email conventions.
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>Bottom posting is DUMB. I hate scrolling down.

Yeah, people are lazy and do not snip. At least with top posting you don't have
to find the end of the message. I find snipping all but a few lines works the
best.

7-11 just came out with a new prepaid plan that uses the Cingular TDMA network.
It's gonna be around for some time, although the capacity will continue to drop
over time.
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> Since there is not FCC mandated continuance of tdma, it will
> probably come soon after they have deployed gsm throughout their entire
> network.

It can use the same control channels as AMPS uses, and can
interchangeably operate on voice channels with no system changes.

So as long as they have AMPS, it would be stupid to get rid of TDMA.

> The next question is "How long until they launch WCDMA?, and "How
> long until all WCDMA, no GSM?".

And that is """"""assuming"""""" they go to WCDMA.
With they said they were not doing until they seen a market for it.
Which they currently do not.

So, at this time, GSM with EDGE is the end game.
That is their end target.

Well, I talked to the cingular rep in Alabama, and they will be rolling
out GSM there shortly.(In the next month) At that time, I would suspect
that they will stop selling TDMA phones into that market.

That would mean a slow death of the TDMA and amps in that market becuase
cingular only sells one Gait phone.

So, I would suspect that within a year or two, tdma will be withdrawn.

IMHO
Chip

N9WOS wrote:
>> Since there is not FCC mandated continuance of tdma, it will
>>probably come soon after they have deployed gsm throughout their entire
>>network.
>
>
> It can use the same control channels as AMPS uses, and can
> interchangeably operate on voice channels with no system changes.
>
> So as long as they have AMPS, it would be stupid to get rid of TDMA.
>
>
>> The next question is "How long until they launch WCDMA?, and "How
>>long until all WCDMA, no GSM?".
>
>
> And that is """"""assuming"""""" they go to WCDMA.
> With they said they were not doing until they seen a market for it.
> Which they currently do not.
>
> So, at this time, GSM with EDGE is the end game.
> That is their end target.
>
>