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- 07-19-2004, 12:48 PM #1Bruce ChastainGuest
I'm trying to set up email on my Motorola phone and I can't find any
information about what the POP3 and SMTP server names should be set for?
This is presumably for GPRS, if that's important.
Also, does anyone know of a good link to a Cingular site that covers all the
various phone settings? I've already gotten a couple of wrong answers from
their 611 info line, and the Motorola manual doesn't include service
provider specific help.
Thanks,
Bruce.
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- 07-19-2004, 02:23 PM #2Røbert M.Guest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
In article <[email protected]>,
"Bruce Chastain" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm trying to set up email on my Motorola phone and I can't find any
> information about what the POP3 and SMTP server names should be set for?
> This is presumably for GPRS, if that's important.
mycingular.com
>
> Also, does anyone know of a good link to a Cingular site that covers all the
> various phone settings?
THERE ARE NONE.
> I've already gotten a couple of wrong answers from
> their 611 info line,
EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.
> and the Motorola manual doesn't include service
> provider specific help.
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce.
- 07-19-2004, 02:59 PM #3Bruce ChastainGuest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
> mycingular.com
Thanks.
> THERE ARE NONE.
> EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.
Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
choice of Cingular. Sigh.
Bruce.
- 07-19-2004, 03:32 PM #4Røbert M.Guest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
In article <[email protected]>,
"Bruce Chastain" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > mycingular.com
>
> Thanks.
>
> > THERE ARE NONE.
> > EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.
>
> Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
> choice of Cingular. Sigh.
Under any circumstances any cell phone is a poor platform
for handling email. Good Technology makes the best handheld
email device (IMHO) and works well on the Cingular Network.
- 07-19-2004, 04:35 PM #5Jason CothranGuest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
"Bruce Chastain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| I'm trying to set up email on my Motorola phone and I can't find any
| information about what the POP3 and SMTP server names should be set for?
| This is presumably for GPRS, if that's important.
|
| Also, does anyone know of a good link to a Cingular site that covers all
the
| various phone settings? I've already gotten a couple of wrong answers
from
| their 611 info line, and the Motorola manual doesn't include service
| provider specific help.
|
Check Cingular.howardforums.com and particularly the FAQ there. It is a very
active forum. Just be sure to search first, as the people there get bent out
of shape when you ask a question thats been asked several times. Chances are
you will find exactly what you are looking for there, already posted several
times. It is much more active than this newsgroup is. The FAQ there is where
you will likely find all the settings for your particular phone.
- 07-20-2004, 07:22 AM #6Bruce ChastainGuest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
"Jason Cothran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Check Cingular.howardforums.com and particularly the FAQ there. It is a
very
> active forum. Just be sure to search first, as the people there get bent
out
> of shape when you ask a question thats been asked several times. Chances
are
> you will find exactly what you are looking for there, already posted
several
> times. It is much more active than this newsgroup is. The FAQ there is
where
> you will likely find all the settings for your particular phone.
Thanks very much!
Bruce.
- 07-22-2004, 01:04 PM #7John NavasGuest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:35:12 -0400,
"Jason Cothran" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Check Cingular.howardforums.com and particularly the FAQ there. It is a very
>active forum. Just be sure to search first, as the people there get bent out
>of shape when you ask a question thats been asked several times. Chances are
>you will find exactly what you are looking for there, already posted several
>times. It is much more active than this newsgroup is. The FAQ there is where
>you will likely find all the settings for your particular phone.
With all due respect, I think it's better to search the Web and/or Usenet with
Google. Web forums tend to Balkanize the Internet.
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 07-22-2004, 01:06 PM #8John NavasGuest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Jul 2004
20:59:09 GMT, "Bruce Chastain" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> mycingular.com
>
>Thanks.
Designed for WAP. Won't help with POP3 or SMTP (for a mail client in your
phone).
>> THERE ARE NONE.
>> EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.
>
>Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
>choice of Cingular. Sigh.
Why? Both are quite decent.
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 07-22-2004, 01:10 PM #9John NavasGuest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Jul
2004 21:32:33 GMT, "Røbert M." <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Bruce Chastain" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > mycingular.com
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> > THERE ARE NONE.
>> > EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.
>>
>> Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
>> choice of Cingular. Sigh.
>
>Under any circumstances any cell phone is a poor platform
>for handling email. ...
Nonsense. A good cell phone (e.g., the better Sony Ericsson models) handle
email quite well, including ASMTP and IMAP4 in addition to POP3. I send and
receive email with my Z600 regularly. Works great.
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 07-22-2004, 01:26 PM #10John NavasGuest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Jul 2004
18:48:15 GMT, "Bruce Chastain" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm trying to set up email on my Motorola phone and I can't find any
>information about what the POP3 and SMTP server names should be set for?
>This is presumably for GPRS, if that's important.
The POP3 and SMTP settings come from the email provider, not the carrier.
While Cingular does provide email service, that service is WAP/Web-based, not
POP3/SMTP. Thus you'll need to use some other email provider (e.g., regular
ISP or email service).
Receiving email by POP3 (or IMAP4) is a simple matter of entering the right
settings from your email provider. Sending can be more difficult, because
many providers require some sort of authentication as an anti-spam measure,
and authentication can be problematic with a cell phone.
photo.mycingular.com can be used as an outgoing SMTP server if you're willing
to put up with a Cingular ad being tacked on to the end of your outgoing
messages.
>Also, does anyone know of a good link to a Cingular site that covers all the
>various phone settings? I've already gotten a couple of wrong answers from
>their 611 info line, and the Motorola manual doesn't include service
>provider specific help.
My website below has a link to Cingular's technical reference on phone data
settings --
<http://alliance.cingularinteractive....reSettings.pdf>
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 07-22-2004, 05:24 PM #11Bruce ChastainGuest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and
my
> >choice of Cingular. Sigh.
>
> Why? Both are quite decent.
If you say so John. I just upgraded from a Nokia phone which didn't require
configuration AT ALL to send and receive email (AT&T was the email host).
With this V400 and Cingular, I'm in acronym hell and total information
overload.
As best as I can tell, my old Nokia piggy-backed email on SMS, which worked
perfectly for what I wanted. I was assigned an email address by AT&T and I
could send and receive without configuring anything, usiing that assigned
email address.
With Cingular, I can't make the simpler email over SMS reliably (noted in
other threads), and the Cingular email requires (to get rid of the Cingular
spam on outgoing messages) an external SMTP and POP3 server, which is
hopelessly complicated to configure, and doesn't seem compatible with my
ISP's SMTP server (I believe due to authentication reasons, but that's just
a guess).
And even if I could get that to work, The V400 seems to be limited to
checking the POP3 server for email no more often than once every 30 minutes.
Totally unacceptable considering the near instantaneous delivery I got with
email over SMS I got with AT&T and the Nokia phone.
And even if I could get the V400 to poll more often, wouldn't I have to pay
for the bytes exchanged every time, even if there is no new email for me?
I'm extremely disappointed.
Bruce.
- 07-22-2004, 05:26 PM #12Bruce ChastainGuest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> My website below has a link to Cingular's technical reference on phone
data
> settings --
>
<http://alliance.cingularinteractive....ftwareSettings
..pdf>
Thanks very much for the info and links John. It'll probably take me a few
days to absorb a lot of the new terminology.
Bruce.
- 07-22-2004, 05:28 PM #13John S.Guest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
>With this V400 and Cingular, I'm in acronym hell and total information
>overload.
ANYTHING other than a Motorola would be a better choice - as you have found
out, unfortunatly!
--
John S.
e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
- 07-22-2004, 05:38 PM #14John NavasGuest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:24:32
GMT, "Bruce Chastain" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> >Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
>> >choice of Cingular. Sigh.
>>
>> Why? Both are quite decent.
>
>If you say so John.
I do, based on considerable experience.
>I just upgraded from a Nokia phone which didn't require
>configuration AT ALL to send and receive email (AT&T was the email host).
When you use a supported phone, OTA provisioning usually makes it a breeze.
>With this V400 and Cingular, I'm in acronym hell and total information
>overload.
Did Cingular sell you the phone? If so, boogie on in to a (real) Cingular
store and get it fixed. If not, then you have no one to blame but yourself.
>As best as I can tell, my old Nokia piggy-backed email on SMS, which worked
>perfectly for what I wanted. I was assigned an email address by AT&T and I
>could send and receive without configuring anything, usiing that assigned
>email address.
Email doesn't work "over SMS." Perhaps you're thinking of SMS-email
*gateways*.
>With Cingular, I can't make the simpler email over SMS reliably (noted in
>other threads),
Cingular's email-SMS gateway is reliable.
>and the Cingular email requires (to get rid of the Cingular
>spam on outgoing messages) an external SMTP and POP3 server, which is
>hopelessly complicated to configure, and doesn't seem compatible with my
>ISP's SMTP server (I believe due to authentication reasons, but that's just
>a guess).
That's not Cingular's fault. If you like ATTWS features better (I don't),
then go back to ATTWS.
>And even if I could get that to work, The V400 seems to be limited to
>checking the POP3 server for email no more often than once every 30 minutes.
>Totally unacceptable considering the near instantaneous delivery I got with
>email over SMS I got with AT&T and the Nokia phone.
That's SMS push, not phone checking. You're comparing apples and oranges.
A real email client is much more capable than email-SMS.
>And even if I could get the V400 to poll more often, wouldn't I have to pay
>for the bytes exchanged every time, even if there is no new email for me?
>
>I'm extremely disappointed.
It sounds like you didn't do your homework first. Features can and do vary by
carrier, and by type of hardware.
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 07-23-2004, 03:10 AM #15Mark E. DanielGuest
Re: POP3 and SMTP servers?
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> phone).
> >> THERE ARE NONE.
> >> EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.
> >
> >Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
> >choice of Cingular. Sigh.
> Why? Both are quite decent.
Cingular service is good. It works in most places I have tried here.
In areas where the in building signal is weak, the phone locks on attws
and roams fine. My only complaint so far is that my minutes show up as
none used. No activity on the account at all. I turned it on June 7th,
changed my plan to nation850 on July 2 and still no call detail now on
July 23rd. The only calls it ever showed were roaming on attws. No
native Cingular usage whatsoever. Yes I have made plenty of calls on
the phone.
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