Cingular Phone on ATTWS

I recently upgraded to the AT&T GSM network. And though I'm very
pleased with the service I think I want a new phone. I wanted the
Samsung x426 but it wasn't in so I got the LG4015 instead. It's a good
phone but I like the screen and size of the Samsing a bit more (both
are larger). I really wanted a phone with caller ID on the outside but
didn't want to pay 200 bucks for it. My question is this, can a get a
Cingular phone, the Motorola V400 for example, and use it on the AT&T
network since to my understanding the AT&T network is the same as the
Cingular one? Cingular seems to have a much better collection of
phones than AT&T does. Anyone know for sure? Thanks.

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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Gary) wrote:

> I recently upgraded to the AT&T GSM network.

You mean you switched. Its debatable whether its an upgrade.

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In <[email protected]> on 22 Jul 2004 08:48:02
-0700, [email protected] (Gary) wrote:

>I recently upgraded to the AT&T GSM network. And though I'm very
>pleased with the service I think I want a new phone. I wanted the
>Samsung x426 but it wasn't in so I got the LG4015 instead. It's a good
>phone but I like the screen and size of the Samsing a bit more (both
>are larger). I really wanted a phone with caller ID on the outside but
>didn't want to pay 200 bucks for it. My question is this, can a get a
>Cingular phone, the Motorola V400 for example, and use it on the AT&T
>network since to my understanding the AT&T network is the same as the
>Cingular one? Cingular seems to have a much better collection of
>phones than AT&T does. Anyone know for sure? Thanks.

A locked Cingular phone won't work on ATTWS. An unlocked GSM phone with the
right bands will work on ATTWS. Since ATTWS (soon to be owned by Cingular) is
migrating to GSM 850, it's a good idea to get a phone which includes that
band.

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[email protected] (Gary) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip>
> My question is this, can a get a
> Cingular phone, the Motorola V400 for example, and use it on the AT&T
> network since to my understanding the AT&T network is the same as the
> Cingular one? Cingular seems to have a much better collection of
> phones than AT&T does. Anyone know for sure? Thanks.

yes

possible problems:

phone will need to be unlocked

you will need a AT&T sim

Cingular may want a 1 or 2 year contract with Early Termination Fee

Programing a unsupported phone on AT&T could leave you with a less than
fully working phone.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul 2004
13:39:28 -0500, Stanley Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

>Programing a unsupported phone on AT&T could leave you with a less than
>fully working phone.

Not if it's programmed properly.

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John Navis is correct.

I'm using an unlocked Cingular Nokia 6340i on the ATT GSM network. I just
put my ATT sim in it and everything works fine.


"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul
2004
> 13:39:28 -0500, Stanley Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Programing a unsupported phone on AT&T could leave you with a less than
> >fully working phone.
>
> Not if it's programmed properly.
>
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> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

Sorry John, my apologies. :-(

Should be: John Navas


"Tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John Navis is correct.
>
> I'm using an unlocked Cingular Nokia 6340i on the ATT GSM network. I just
> put my ATT sim in it and everything works fine.
>
>
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >
> > In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul
> 2004
> > 13:39:28 -0500, Stanley Reynolds <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >
> > >Programing a unsupported phone on AT&T could leave you with a less than
> > >fully working phone.
> >
> > Not if it's programmed properly.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> > John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
>
>

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul 2004
> 13:39:28 -0500, Stanley Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Programing a unsupported phone on AT&T could leave you with a less than
> >fully working phone.
>
> Not if it's programmed properly.

Doesnt answer the OP question. Can one pop an AT&T SIM into a standard
unlocked Cingular phone and expect it to fully work?

If not, how does an end user program it.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul
2004 20:19:31 GMT, "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul 2004
>> 13:39:28 -0500, Stanley Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Programing a unsupported phone on AT&T could leave you with a less than
>> >fully working phone.
>>
>> Not if it's programmed properly.
>
>Doesnt answer the OP question. Can one pop an AT&T SIM into a standard
>unlocked Cingular phone and expect it to fully work?

Yep.

>If not, how does an end user program it.

Simple: Put the SIM in an AT&T phone, and have it programmed OTA.

Do you know anything about GSM? [rhetorical question:]

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In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Do you know anything about GSM? [rhetorical question:]

Works well in my v600.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul
2004 22:22:04 GMT, "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Do you know anything about GSM? [rhetorical question:]
>
>Works well in my v600.

I didn't think so. Clueless about this too.

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In article <%[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul
> 2004 22:22:04 GMT, "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Do you know anything about GSM? [rhetorical question:]
> >
> >Works well in my v600.
>
> I didn't think so. Clueless about this too.

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul
2004 23:08:35 GMT, "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <%[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul
>> 2004 22:22:04 GMT, "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do you know anything about GSM? [rhetorical question:]
>> >
>> >Works well in my v600.
>>
>> I didn't think so. Clueless about this too.
>
>Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

Don't break your arm hanging yourself.

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John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

On 7/22/04 7:20 PM, in article [email protected], "John
Navas" <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul
> 2004 23:08:35 GMT, "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In article <%[email protected]>,
>> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul
>>> 2004 22:22:04 GMT, "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Do you know anything about GSM? [rhetorical question:]
>>>>
>>>> Works well in my v600.
>>>
>>> I didn't think so. Clueless about this too.
>>
>> Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
>
> Don't break your arm hanging yourself.

You still are a pompus ass, huh?

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In <BD25ED93.1860%[email protected]> on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:17:55 -0400,
Sneaker Freak <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 7/22/04 7:20 PM, in article [email protected], "John
>Navas" <[email protected]> wrote:

>You still are a pompus ass, huh?

And you? ;-)

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