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  1. #1
    Jeremy
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    The real answer to the OP is that he consult an ATTORNEY who is qualified to
    answer his legal question, not post an inquiry on USENET, and then receive
    conflicting responses, most or all of which came from unqualified
    individuals.

    The OP is raising a matter of contract law, not a technical question about
    phone service.

    If he is unable to resolve the issue informally, through the Customer
    Service Department, or senior management, then he ought to pay a few bucks
    and get the straight scoop from an attorney.

    All this legal speculation may make for interesting reading, but none of it
    can be considered sound advice, as it represents only unqualified OPINIONS
    of well-meaning people that do not have law degrees.

    I would be interested in hearing what his attorney advised him, based upon
    his state's laws, regarding his ability to break the contract.





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  2. #2
    John Navas
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    Re: Stop Practicing Law On USENTE!

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    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 03 Aug 2004
    14:20:48 GMT, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >The real answer to the OP is that he consult an ATTORNEY who is qualified to
    >answer his legal question, not post an inquiry on USENET, and then receive
    >conflicting responses, most or all of which came from unqualified
    >individuals.
    >
    >The OP is raising a matter of contract law, not a technical question about
    >phone service.
    >
    >If he is unable to resolve the issue informally, through the Customer
    >Service Department, or senior management, then he ought to pay a few bucks
    >and get the straight scoop from an attorney.


    The problem is that the amount at stake ($70) is too small to make that
    worthwhile -- the "few bucks" (ha!) to an attorney would probably be far more
    than the recovery. The more practical recourse is to the BBB. Even Small
    Claims probably isn't worth it.

    >All this legal speculation may make for interesting reading, but none of it
    >can be considered sound advice, as it represents only unqualified OPINIONS
    >of well-meaning people that do not have law degrees.


    I think not spending more than the amount at issue is sound advice. ;-)

    >I would be interested in hearing what his attorney advised him, based upon
    >his state's laws, regarding his ability to break the contract.


    I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. :-)

    To be clear, I am not a lawyer, and I don't presume to give legal advice. I'm
    simply expressing my personal opinion about the most prudent course of action,
    just as you are.

    USENTE?

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    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  3. #3
    Robert
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    Re: Stop Practicing Law On USENTE!

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > The real answer to the OP is that he consult an ATTORNEY who is qualified to
    > answer his legal question, not post an inquiry on USENET, and then receive
    > conflicting responses, most or all of which came from unqualified
    > individuals.
    >
    > The OP is raising a matter of contract law, not a technical question about
    > phone service.
    >
    > If he is unable to resolve the issue informally, through the Customer
    > Service Department, or senior management, then he ought to pay a few bucks
    > and get the straight scoop from an attorney.


    Nope a non judgemental letter to one's State's Attorney General, with a
    certfied copy to of the HQ of the Carrier in question will get good
    results if the carrier is at fault.


    Typically Customer Service departments don't have the authority to waive
    ETF except in a precious few cases.



  4. #4
    Jeremy
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    Re: Stop Practicing Law On USENTE!


    "Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > The real answer to the OP is that he consult an ATTORNEY who is

    qualified to
    > > answer his legal question, not post an inquiry on USENET, and then

    receive
    > > conflicting responses, most or all of which came from unqualified
    > > individuals.
    > >
    > > The OP is raising a matter of contract law, not a technical question

    about
    > > phone service.
    > >
    > > If he is unable to resolve the issue informally, through the Customer
    > > Service Department, or senior management, then he ought to pay a few

    bucks
    > > and get the straight scoop from an attorney.

    >
    > Nope a non judgemental letter to one's State's Attorney General, with a
    > certfied copy to of the HQ of the Carrier in question will get good
    > results if the carrier is at fault.
    >
    >
    > Typically Customer Service departments don't have the authority to waive
    > ETF except in a precious few cases.


    Are you suggesting that the OP become, essentially, a "Do-It-Yourselfer?"
    The Attorney General will not give him legal advice. It is doubtful that a
    dispute over whether or not this issue falls under the Consumer Protection
    laws. It sounds more like a disagreement over the provisions of the
    contract.

    He needs an attorney. You can bet that ATTWS is being guided by their own
    attorneys' advice, not the advice of non-attorneys on USENET.





  5. #5
    John Navas
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    Re: Stop Practicing Law On USENTE!

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 03 Aug 2004
    16:33:09 GMT, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> The real answer to the OP is that he consult an ATTORNEY who is qualified to
    >> answer his legal question, not post an inquiry on USENET, and then receive
    >> conflicting responses, most or all of which came from unqualified
    >> individuals.
    >>
    >> The OP is raising a matter of contract law, not a technical question about
    >> phone service.
    >>
    >> If he is unable to resolve the issue informally, through the Customer
    >> Service Department, or senior management, then he ought to pay a few bucks
    >> and get the straight scoop from an attorney.

    >
    >Nope a non judgemental letter to one's State's Attorney General, with a
    >certfied copy to of the HQ of the Carrier in question will get good
    >results if the carrier is at fault.


    The carrier wasn't at fault.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



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