FAQ: Why is my GPRS, EDGE, or UMTS so slow?

Q: Why is my GPRS, EDGE, or UMTS so slow?

A1: Handsets (and PC Cards) do not all have the same data performance. In
general, all reasonably recent GPRS/EDGE-capable devices from Ericsson and
Sony Ericsson support Class 8 (4+1) and Class 10 (4+2, max of 5), whereas most
Nokia devices are limited to slower Class 4 (3+1) and Class 6 (3+2, max 4).
Motorola has both Class 4 and Class 8 devices. (The first number is the max
downlink slots, and the number after the "+" is the max uplink slots.) This
can translate into a substantial difference in throughput -- if supported by
the carrier, Class 8 is 33% faster on downlink than Class 4.

A2: Connections between handsets and "tethered" devices (e.g., notebook
computer, PDA) are typically implemented as a serial port, either real or
virtual, and port speed usually defaults to 115 Kbps. (My own Bluetooth stack
is implemented as a virtual serial port that will go as fast as 921.6 Kbps,
but which runs at only 115.2 Kbps by default.) While 115 Kbps is generally
fast enough for GPRS and CDMA 1X, it can be a bottleneck for EDGE, UMTS, and
CDMA EV-DO. In general, I recommend port speed of 230 Kbps for GPRS and CDMA
1X, 460 Kbps for EDGE, and 920 Kbps for UMTS and CMDA EV-DO.
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› See More: FAQ: Why is my GPRS, EDGE, or UMTS so slow?

>Q: Why is my GPRS, EDGE, or UMTS so slow?
>
>A1: Handsets (and PC Cards) do not all have the same data performance. In
>general, all reasonably recent GPRS/EDGE-capable devices from Ericsson and
>Sony Ericsson support Class 8 (4+1) and Class 10 (4+2, max of 5), whereas most
>Nokia devices are limited to slower Class 4 (3+1) and Class 6 (3+2, max 4).
>Motorola has both Class 4 and Class 8 devices. (The first number is the max
>downlink slots, and the number after the "+" is the max uplink slots.) This
>can translate into a substantial difference in throughput -- if supported by
>the carrier, Class 8 is 33% faster on downlink than Class 4.
>
>A2: Connections between handsets and "tethered" devices (e.g., notebook
>computer, PDA) are typically implemented as a serial port, either real or
>virtual, and port speed usually defaults to 115 Kbps. (My own Bluetooth stack
>is implemented as a virtual serial port that will go as fast as 921.6 Kbps,
>but which runs at only 115.2 Kbps by default.) While 115 Kbps is generally
>fast enough for GPRS and CDMA 1X, it can be a bottleneck for EDGE, UMTS, and
>CDMA EV-DO. In general, I recommend port speed of 230 Kbps for GPRS and CDMA
>1X, 460 Kbps for EDGE, and 920 Kbps for UMTS and CMDA EV-DO.

John, do you know where I might find a one-stop reference to which
GPRS Class various Ericsson and Sony Ericsson phones support? I'm
specifically interested in the Ericsson T39 and Sony Ericsson G610.
Thanks in advance!

Brian Dipert
Technical Editor: Mass Storage, Memory, Multimedia, PC Core Logic and Peripherals, and Programmable Logic
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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 30 Sep 2004 04:35:33
GMT, Brian Dipert <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>>Q: Why is my GPRS, EDGE, or UMTS so slow?
>>
>>A1: Handsets (and PC Cards) do not all have the same data performance. In
>>general, all reasonably recent GPRS/EDGE-capable devices from Ericsson and
>>Sony Ericsson support Class 8 (4+1) and Class 10 (4+2, max of 5), whereas most
>>Nokia devices are limited to slower Class 4 (3+1) and Class 6 (3+2, max 4).
>>Motorola has both Class 4 and Class 8 devices. (The first number is the max
>>downlink slots, and the number after the "+" is the max uplink slots.) This
>>can translate into a substantial difference in throughput -- if supported by
>>the carrier, Class 8 is 33% faster on downlink than Class 4.
>>
>>A2: Connections between handsets and "tethered" devices (e.g., notebook
>>computer, PDA) are typically implemented as a serial port, either real or
>>virtual, and port speed usually defaults to 115 Kbps. (My own Bluetooth stack
>>is implemented as a virtual serial port that will go as fast as 921.6 Kbps,
>>but which runs at only 115.2 Kbps by default.) While 115 Kbps is generally
>>fast enough for GPRS and CDMA 1X, it can be a bottleneck for EDGE, UMTS, and
>>CDMA EV-DO. In general, I recommend port speed of 230 Kbps for GPRS and CDMA
>>1X, 460 Kbps for EDGE, and 920 Kbps for UMTS and CMDA EV-DO.
>
>John, do you know where I might find a one-stop reference to which
>GPRS Class various Ericsson and Sony Ericsson phones support? I'm
>specifically interested in the Ericsson T39 and Sony Ericsson G610.
>Thanks in advance!

T39m: http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/gprs/class.shtml

--
Best regards,
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>

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ALL Ariel Sharon's servants , Thugs & Murderers.


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Special Syrian Assassins of Assef Shawkat & Roustom Ghazali Working for
Sharon and the Worst NEOCONS.

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Karl Rove's White House " Murder, Inc."

By Wayne Madsen .
Online Journal Contributing Writer .

OCT, 2004- On September 15, 2001, just four days after the 9-11 attacks,
CIA Director George Tenet provided President [sic] Bush with a Top Secret
"Worldwide Attack Matrix"-a virtual license to kill targets deemed to be a
threat to the United States in some 80 countries around the world. The Tenet
plan, which was subsequently approved by Bush, essentially reversed the
executive orders of four previous U.S. administrations that expressly
prohibited political assassinations.

According to high level European intelligence officials, Bush's counselor,
Karl Rove, used the new presidential authority to silence a popular Lebanese
Christian politician who was planning to offer irrefutable evidence that
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon authorized the massacre of hundreds of
Palestinian men, women, and children in the Beirut refugee camps of Sabra
and Shatilla in 1982. In addition, Sharon provided the Lebanese forces who
carried out the grisly task. At the time of the massacres, Elie Hobeika was
intelligence chief of Lebanese Christian forces in Lebanon who were battling
Palestinians and other Muslim groups in a bloody civil war. He was also the
chief liaison to Israeli Defense Force (IDF) personnel in Lebanon. An
official Israeli inquiry into the massacre at the camps, the Kahan
Commission, merely found Sharon "indirectly" responsible for the slaughter
and fingered Hobeika as the chief instigator.

The Kahan Commission never called on Hobeika to offer testimony in his
defense. However, in response to charges brought against Sharon before a
special war crimes court in Belgium, Hobeika was urged to testify against
Sharon, according to well-informed Lebanese sources. Hobeika was prepared to
offer a different version of events than what was contained in the Kahan
report. A 1993 Belgian law permitting human rights prosecutions was unusual
in that non-Belgians could be tried for violations against other
non-Belgians in a Belgian court. Under pressure from the Bush
administration, the law was severely amended and the extra territoriality
provisions were curtailed.

Hobeika headed the Lebanese forces intelligence agency since the mid- 1970s
and he soon developed close ties to the CIA. He was a frequent visitor to
the CIA's headquarters at Langley, Virginia. After the Syrian invasion of
Lebanon in 1990, Hobeika held a number of cabinet positions in the Lebanese
government, a proxy for the Syrian occupation authorities. He also served in
the parliament. In July 2001, Hobeika called a press conference and
announced he was prepared to testify against Sharon in Belgium and revealed
that he had evidence of what actually occurred in Sabra and Shatilla.
Hobeika also indicated that Israel had flown members of the South Lebanon
Army (SLA) into Beirut International Airport in an Israeli Air Force C130
transport plane. In full view of dozens of witnesses, including members of
the Lebanese army and others, SLA troops under the command of Major Saad
Haddad were slipped into the camps to commit the massacres. The SLA troops
were under the direct command of Ariel Sharon and an Israeli Mossad agent
provocateur named Rafi Eitan. Hobeika offered evidence that a former U.S.
ambassador to Lebanon was aware of the Israeli plot. In addition, the IDF
had placed a camera in a strategic position to film the Sabra and Shatilla
massacres. Hobeika was going to ask that the footage be released as part of
the investigation of Sharon.

After announcing he was willing to testify against Sharon, Hobeika became
fearful for his safety and began moves to leave Lebanon. Hobeika was not
aware that his threats to testify against Sharon had triggered a series of
fateful events that reached well into the White House and Sharon's office.

On January 24, 2002, Hobeika's car was blown up by a remote controlled bomb
placed in a parked Mercedes along a street in the Hazmieh section of Beirut.
The bomb exploded when Hobeika and his three associates, Fares Souweidan,
Mitri Ajram, and Waleed Zein, were driving their Range Rover past the
TNT-laden Mercedes at 9:40 am Beirut time. The Range Rover's four passengers
were killed in the explosion. In case Hobeika's car had taken another route

through the neighborhood, two additional parked cars, located at two other
choke points, were also rigged with TNT. The powerful bomb wounded a number
of other people on the street. Other parked cars were destroyed and
buildings and homes were damaged. The Lebanese president, prime minister,
and interior minister all claimed that Israeli agents were behind the
attack.

It is noteworthy that the State Department's list of global terrorist
incidents for 2002 worldwide failed to list the car bombing attack on
Hobeika and his party. The White House wanted to ensure the attack was
censored from the report. The reason was simple: the attack ultimately had
Washington's fingerprints on it.

High level European intelligence sources now report that Karl Rove
personally coordinated Hobeika's assassination. The hit on Hobeika employed
Syrian intelligence agents. Syrian President Bashar Assad was trying to
curry favor with the Bush administration in the aftermath of 9-11 and was
more than willing to help the White House. In addition, Assad's father,
Hafez Assad, had been an ally of Bush's father during Desert Storm, a period
that saw Washington give a "wink and a nod" to Syria's occupation of
Lebanon. Rove wanted to help Sharon avoid any political embarrassment from
an in absentia trial in Brussels where Hobeika would be a star witness. Rove
and Sharon agreed on the plan to use Syrian Military Intelligence agents to
assassinate Hobeika. Rove saw Sharon as an indispensable ally of Bush in
ensuring the loyalty of the Christian evangelical and Jewish voting blocs in
the United States. Sharon saw the plan to have the United States coordinate
the hit as a way to mask all connections to Jerusalem.

The Syrian hit team was ordered by Assef Shawkat, the number two man in
Syrian military intelligence and a good friend and brother in law of Syrian
President Bashar Assad. Assad's intelligence services had already cooperated
with U.S. intelligence in resorting to unconventional methods to extract
information from al Qaeda detainees deported to Syria from the United States
and other countries in the wake of 9-11. The order to take out Hobeika was
transmitted by Shawkat to Roustom Ghazali, the head of Syrian military
intelligence in Beirut. Ghazali arranged for the three remote controlled
cars to be parked along Hobeika's route in Hazmieh; only few hundred yards
from the Barracks of Syrian Special Forces which are stationed in the area
near the Presidential palace , the ministry of Defense and various
Government and officers quarters . This particular area is covered 24/7 by a
very sophisticated USA multi-agency surveillance system to monitor Syrian
and Lebanese security activities and is a " Choice " area to live in for its
perceived high security .... [Courtesy of the Special Collections Services.]
.... SCS... ; CIA & NSA & DIA....


The plan to kill Hobeika had all the necessary caveats and built-in denial
mechanisms. If the Syrians were discovered beforehand or afterwards, Karl
Rove and his associates in the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans would be
ensured plausible deniability.

Hobeika's CIA intermediary in Beirut, a man only referred to as "Jason" by
Hobeika, was a frequent companion of the Lebanese politician during official
and off-duty hours. During Hobeika's election campaigns for his
parliamentary seat, Jason was often in Hobeika's office offering support and
advice. After Hobeika's assassination, Jason became despondent over the
death of his colleague. Eventually, Jason disappeared abruptly from Lebanon
and reportedly later emerged in Pakistan.

Karl Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika may not have been
the last "hit" he ordered to help out Sharon. In March 2002, a few months
after Hobeika's assassination, another Lebanese Christian with knowledge of
Sharon's involvement in the Sabra and Shatilla massacres was gunned down
along with his wife in Sao Paulo, Brazil. A bullet fired at Michael Nassar's
car flattened one of his tires. Nassar pulled into a gasoline station for
repairs. A professional assassin, firing a gun with a silencer, shot Nassar
and his wife in the head, killing them both instantly. The assailant fled
and was never captured. Nassar was also involved with the Phalange militia
at Sabra and Shatilla. Nassar was also reportedly willing to testify against
Sharon in Belgium and, as a nephew of SLA Commander General Antoine Lahd,
may have had important evidence to bolster Hobeika's charge that Sharon
ordered SLA forces into the camps to wipe out the Palestinians.

Based on what European intelligence claims is concrete intelligence on
Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika, the Bush administration
can now add political assassination to its laundry list of other misdeeds,
from lying about the reasons to go to war to the torture tactics in
violation of the Geneva Conventions that have been employed by the Pentagon
and "third country" nationals at prisons in Iraq and Guantanamo Bay.

Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and
columnist. He served in the National Security Agency (NSA) during the Reagan
administration and wrote the introduction to Forbidden Truth. He is the
co-author, with John Stanton, of "America's Nightmare: The Presidency of
George Bush II." His forthcoming book is titled: "Jaded Tasks: Big Oil,
Black Ops, and Brass Plates." Madsen can be reached at:
[email protected]

This is some of the evidence for you and for the World ....
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Not to mention hundreds of private companies and governments. Anyway...
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Lines 10-36
of my logfiles show a lot of interest in this article:

# grep sid=1052 /encrypted/logs/access_log|awk '{print $1,$7}'|sed -n
'10,36p'

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gateway-fincen.uscg.mil /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
crawler2.googlebot.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
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crawler13.googlebot.com /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
fw1-b.osis.gov /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
bouncer.nics.gov.uk /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
beluha.ssu.gov.ua /modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052
zukprxpro02.zreo.compaq.com
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WE WILL REMEMBER....

" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

The Group of Killers who planted the bombs to KILL Marwan Hamade are
the Same Group of Killer Murderers Belonging to a Special Unit in the
Syrian Military Intelligence Apparatus, I.E. a Group of thugs and
Bloodthirthty Killers ordered by Assef Shawkat in person.

The orders get carried out by the chief Killer Roustom Ghazali...
This is the same unit which murdered Mr. Elie Hobeika,
Waleed Zein, Fares Sweidan and Mitri Ajram, on January 24th 2002.
The American Administartion of G.W.Bush keeps these Killers in Place
for all the wrong reasons of course, they utlimately hold the
responsibility of these crimes together with the Syrian Murderers.

Assassination Notes: Jumblat's Strains with Syria, U.S.Seem Easing....
*************************************************************************


Marwan Hamadeh's survival of the assassination attempt seems to have
strangely eased Walid Jumblat's strain with both the United States and
Syria. These are the anecdotes of the tragic event:
1-Syria's Vice President Abdul Halim Khaddam embraced and kissed Jumblat
as he hurriedly arrived from Damascus at the AUH. It was the first
gesture of peace-making since Jumblat clashed with the Assad regime over
strong-arming the Lebanese parliament to rubberstamp Lahoud's extension.

2-Although the Bush administration had withdrawn Jumblat's open-ended
U.S. visa, American ambassador Jeffrey Feltmen was the second foreign
diplomat to rush to the AUH after French ambassador Phillipe Le
Courtier. Feltmen shook hands with Jumblat and then conveyed well-wishes
to Hamadeh at his hospital bed for a speedy recovery.

3-Assistant Undersecretary of State David Satterfield, a former
ambassador to Beirut, called Jumblat by telephone from Washington to
convey the State Department's sorrow over Hamadeh's episode. State
Department deputy spokesman Adam Ereli strongly condemned Hamadeh's
assassination attempt as "vicious terrorist attack."

4-French President Jacques Chirac, who was in conference with German
Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder in Strasburg, called Premier Hariri by
telephone in Paris to deplore what he termed "this terrorist act."
Hamadeh is a French national because his mother was French.

5- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan expressed "serious concern" over
the Beirut car-bomb attempt to assassinate Marwan Hamadeh, reiterating
his "abhorrence of such violent acts."

6-Gen. Aoun called from his Paris exile on Syria's and Lebanon's
intelligence services to quickly "investigate and unmask this crime,
especially that they are the prime suspects."



Cases In Point....

The CIA 'old guard' goes to war with Bush
By Phillip Sherwell in Washington
A powerful "old guard" faction in the Central Intelligence Agency has
launched an unprecedented campaign to undermine the Bush administration
with a battery of damaging leaks and briefings about Iraq.

The White House is incensed by the increasingly public sniping from some
senior intelligence officers who, it believes, are conducting a partisan
operation to swing the election on November 2 in favour of John Kerry,
the Democratic candidate, and against George W Bush.

Head to head: Bush and Kerry Jim Pavitt, a 31-year CIA veteran who
retired as a departmental chief in August, said that he cannot recall a
time of such "viciousness and vindictiveness" in a battle between the
White House and the agency.

John Roberts, a conservative security analyst, commented bluntly: "When
the President cannot trust his own CIA, the nation faces dire consequences."

Relations between the White House and the agency are widely regarded as
being at their lowest ebb since the hopelessly botched Bay of Pigs
invasion of Cuba by CIA-sponsored exiles under President John F Kennedy
in 1961.

There is anger within the CIA that it has taken all the blame for the
failings of pre-war intelligence on Saddam Hussein's weapons programmes.

Former senior CIA officials argue that so-called "neo-conservative"
hawks such as the vice president, Dick Cheney, the secretary of defence,
Donald Rumsfeld, and his number three at the defence department, Douglas
Feith, have prompted the ill-feeling by demanding "politically
acceptable" results from the agency and rejecting conclusions they did
not like. Yet Colin Powell, the less hardline secretary of state, has
also been scathing in his criticism of pre-war intelligence briefings.

The leaks are also a shot across the bows of Porter Goss, the agency's
new director and a former Republican congressman. He takes over with
orders from the White House to end the in-fighting and revamp the
troubled spy agency as part of a radical overhaul of the American
intelligence world.

Bill Harlow, the former CIA spokesman who left with the former director
George Tenet in July, acknowledged that there had been leaks from within
the agency. "The intelligence community has been made the scapegoat for
all the failings over Iraq," he said. "It deserves some of the blame,
but not all of it. People are chafing at that, and that's the background
to these leaks."

Fighting to defend their patch ahead of the future review, anti-Bush CIA
operatives have ensured that Iraq remains high on the election campaign
agenda long after Republican strategists such as Karl Rove, the
President's closest adviser, had hoped that it would fade from the front
pages.

In the latest clash, a senior former CIA agent revealed that Mr Cheney
"blew up" when a report into links between the Saddam regime and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi, the terrorist behind the kidnappings and beheadings of
hostages in Iraq, including the Briton Kenneth Bigley, proved inconclusive.

Other recent leaks have included the contents of classified reports
drawn up by CIA analysts before the invasion of Iraq, warning the White
House about the dangers of post-war instability. Specifically, the
reports said that rogue Ba'athist elements might team up with terrorist
groups to wage a guerrilla war.

Critics of the White House include officials who have served in previous
Republican administrations such as Vince Cannistraro, a former CIA head
of counter-terrorism and member of the National Security Council under
Ronald Reagan.

"These have been an extraordinary four years for the CIA and the
political pressure to come up with the right results has been enormous,
particularly from Vice-President Cheney.

"I'm afraid that the agency is guilty of bending over backwards to
please the administration. George Tenet was desperate to give them what
they wanted and that was a complete disaster."

With the simmering rows breaking out in public, the Wall Street Journal
declared in an editorial that the administration was now fighting two
insurgencies: one in Iraq and one at the CIA.

In a difficult week for President Bush leading up to Friday's
presidential debate, the CIA-led Iraqi Survey Group confirmed that
Saddam had had no weapons of mass destruction, while Mr Rumsfeld
distanced himself from the administration's long-held assertion of ties
between Saddam and the al-Qaeda terror network.

Earlier, unguarded comments by Paul Bremer, the former American
administrator of Iraq who said that America "never had enough troops on
the ground", had given the row about post-war strategy on the ground
fresh impetus.

With just 23 days before the country votes for its next president, both
sides are braced for further bruising encounters.

*******************************************************************

Israel, Syria battle over U.S. ties
Israel and Syria are trading furious charges over who is trying to
undermine whom as Syria seeks to curry favor with the Bush
administration.

at http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041...2216-3348r.htm


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http://www.fpa.org/thread_msg2597/t...TML/000194.html


***Special CONFIRMED Report. ****Assassins; who put Al-Qaeda to Shame.
The Number three most powerful man , after Dick Cheney & G.W. BUSH .

ALL Ariel Sharon's servants , Thugs & Murderers.


Karl ROVE & Ariel Sharon banking on their Syrian killers & Murderers &
Special Syrian Assassins of Assef Shawkat & Roustom Ghazali Working for
Sharon and the Worst NEOCONS.

Special I.C.C. Investigation; The Hague NL. & Belgium .Etc. Etc.....
****************************************************


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Rove's Thugs & Killers.]....@[email protected].....& the republican Rags....
***********************************************************


Karl Rove's White House " Murder, Inc."

By Wayne Madsen .
Online Journal Contributing Writer .

OCT, 2004- On September 15, 2001, just four days after the 9-11 attacks,
CIA Director George Tenet provided President [sic] Bush with a Top Secret
"Worldwide Attack Matrix"-a virtual license to kill targets deemed to be a
threat to the United States in some 80 countries around the world. The Tenet
plan, which was subsequently approved by Bush, essentially reversed the
executive orders of four previous U.S. administrations that expressly
prohibited political assassinations.

According to high level European intelligence officials, Bush's counselor,
Karl Rove, used the new presidential authority to silence a popular Lebanese
Christian politician who was planning to offer irrefutable evidence that
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon authorized the massacre of hundreds of
Palestinian men, women, and children in the Beirut refugee camps of Sabra
and Shatilla in 1982. In addition, Sharon provided the Lebanese forces who
carried out the grisly task. At the time of the massacres, Elie Hobeika was
intelligence chief of Lebanese Christian forces in Lebanon who were battling
Palestinians and other Muslim groups in a bloody civil war. He was also the
chief liaison to Israeli Defense Force (IDF) personnel in Lebanon. An
official Israeli inquiry into the massacre at the camps, the Kahan
Commission, merely found Sharon "indirectly" responsible for the slaughter
and fingered Hobeika as the chief instigator.

The Kahan Commission never called on Hobeika to offer testimony in his
defense. However, in response to charges brought against Sharon before a
special war crimes court in Belgium, Hobeika was urged to testify against
Sharon, according to well-informed Lebanese sources. Hobeika was prepared to
offer a different version of events than what was contained in the Kahan
report. A 1993 Belgian law permitting human rights prosecutions was unusual
in that non-Belgians could be tried for violations against other
non-Belgians in a Belgian court. Under pressure from the Bush
administration, the law was severely amended and the extra territoriality
provisions were curtailed.

Hobeika headed the Lebanese forces intelligence agency since the mid- 1970s
and he soon developed close ties to the CIA. He was a frequent visitor to
the CIA's headquarters at Langley, Virginia. After the Syrian invasion of
Lebanon in 1990, Hobeika held a number of cabinet positions in the Lebanese
government, a proxy for the Syrian occupation authorities. He also served in
the parliament. In July 2001, Hobeika called a press conference and
announced he was prepared to testify against Sharon in Belgium and revealed
that he had evidence of what actually occurred in Sabra and Shatilla.
Hobeika also indicated that Israel had flown members of the South Lebanon
Army (SLA) into Beirut International Airport in an Israeli Air Force C130
transport plane. In full view of dozens of witnesses, including members of
the Lebanese army and others, SLA troops under the command of Major Saad
Haddad were slipped into the camps to commit the massacres. The SLA troops
were under the direct command of Ariel Sharon and an Israeli Mossad agent
provocateur named Rafi Eitan. Hobeika offered evidence that a former U.S.
ambassador to Lebanon was aware of the Israeli plot. In addition, the IDF
had placed a camera in a strategic position to film the Sabra and Shatilla
massacres. Hobeika was going to ask that the footage be released as part of
the investigation of Sharon.

After announcing he was willing to testify against Sharon, Hobeika became
fearful for his safety and began moves to leave Lebanon. Hobeika was not
aware that his threats to testify against Sharon had triggered a series of
fateful events that reached well into the White House and Sharon's office.

On January 24, 2002, Hobeika's car was blown up by a remote controlled bomb
placed in a parked Mercedes along a street in the Hazmieh section of Beirut.
The bomb exploded when Hobeika and his three associates, Fares Souweidan,
Mitri Ajram, and Waleed Zein, were driving their Range Rover past the
TNT-laden Mercedes at 9:40 am Beirut time. The Range Rover's four passengers
were killed in the explosion. In case Hobeika's car had taken another route

through the neighborhood, two additional parked cars, located at two other
choke points, were also rigged with TNT. The powerful bomb wounded a number
of other people on the street. Other parked cars were destroyed and
buildings and homes were damaged. The Lebanese president, prime minister,
and interior minister all claimed that Israeli agents were behind the
attack.

It is noteworthy that the State Department's list of global terrorist
incidents for 2002 worldwide failed to list the car bombing attack on
Hobeika and his party. The White House wanted to ensure the attack was
censored from the report. The reason was simple: the attack ultimately had
Washington's fingerprints on it.

High level European intelligence sources now report that Karl Rove
personally coordinated Hobeika's assassination. The hit on Hobeika employed
Syrian intelligence agents. Syrian President Bashar Assad was trying to
curry favor with the Bush administration in the aftermath of 9-11 and was
more than willing to help the White House. In addition, Assad's father,
Hafez Assad, had been an ally of Bush's father during Desert Storm, a period
that saw Washington give a "wink and a nod" to Syria's occupation of
Lebanon. Rove wanted to help Sharon avoid any political embarrassment from
an in absentia trial in Brussels where Hobeika would be a star witness. Rove
and Sharon agreed on the plan to use Syrian Military Intelligence agents to
assassinate Hobeika. Rove saw Sharon as an indispensable ally of Bush in
ensuring the loyalty of the Christian evangelical and Jewish voting blocs in
the United States. Sharon saw the plan to have the United States coordinate
the hit as a way to mask all connections to Jerusalem.

The Syrian hit team was ordered by Assef Shawkat, the number two man in
Syrian military intelligence and a good friend and brother in law of Syrian
President Bashar Assad. Assad's intelligence services had already cooperated
with U.S. intelligence in resorting to unconventional methods to extract
information from al Qaeda detainees deported to Syria from the United States
and other countries in the wake of 9-11. The order to take out Hobeika was
transmitted by Shawkat to Roustom Ghazali, the head of Syrian military
intelligence in Beirut. Ghazali arranged for the three remote controlled
cars to be parked along Hobeika's route in Hazmieh; only few hundred yards
from the Barracks of Syrian Special Forces which are stationed in the area
near the Presidential palace , the ministry of Defense and various
Government and officers quarters . This particular area is covered 24/7 by a
very sophisticated USA multi-agency surveillance system to monitor Syrian
and Lebanese security activities and is a " Choice " area to live in for its
perceived high security .... [Courtesy of the Special Collections Services.]
.... SCS... ; CIA & NSA & DIA....


The plan to kill Hobeika had all the necessary caveats and built-in denial
mechanisms. If the Syrians were discovered beforehand or afterwards, Karl
Rove and his associates in the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans would be
ensured plausible deniability.

Hobeika's CIA intermediary in Beirut, a man only referred to as "Jason" by
Hobeika, was a frequent companion of the Lebanese politician during official
and off-duty hours. During Hobeika's election campaigns for his
parliamentary seat, Jason was often in Hobeika's office offering support and
advice. After Hobeika's assassination, Jason became despondent over the
death of his colleague. Eventually, Jason disappeared abruptly from Lebanon
and reportedly later emerged in Pakistan.

Karl Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika may not have been
the last "hit" he ordered to help out Sharon. In March 2002, a few months
after Hobeika's assassination, another Lebanese Christian with knowledge of
Sharon's involvement in the Sabra and Shatilla massacres was gunned down
along with his wife in Sao Paulo, Brazil. A bullet fired at Michael Nassar's
car flattened one of his tires. Nassar pulled into a gasoline station for
repairs. A professional assassin, firing a gun with a silencer, shot Nassar
and his wife in the head, killing them both instantly. The assailant fled
and was never captured. Nassar was also involved with the Phalange militia
at Sabra and Shatilla. Nassar was also reportedly willing to testify against
Sharon in Belgium and, as a nephew of SLA Commander General Antoine Lahd,
may have had important evidence to bolster Hobeika's charge that Sharon
ordered SLA forces into the camps to wipe out the Palestinians.

Based on what European intelligence claims is concrete intelligence on
Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika, the Bush administration
can now add political assassination to its laundry list of other misdeeds,
from lying about the reasons to go to war to the torture tactics in
violation of the Geneva Conventions that have been employed by the Pentagon
and "third country" nationals at prisons in Iraq and Guantanamo Bay.

Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and
columnist. He served in the National Security Agency (NSA) during the Reagan
administration and wrote the introduction to Forbidden Truth. He is the
co-author, with John Stanton, of "America's Nightmare: The Presidency of
George Bush II." His forthcoming book is titled: "Jaded Tasks: Big Oil,
Black Ops, and Brass Plates." Madsen can be reached at:
[email protected]

This is some of the evidence for you and for the World ....
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" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

The Group of Killers who planted the bombs to KILL Marwan Hamade are
the Same Group of Killer Murderers Belonging to a Special Unit in the
Syrian Military Intelligence Apparatus, I.E. a Group of thugs and
Bloodthirthty Killers ordered by Assef Shawkat in person.

The orders get carried out by the chief Killer Roustom Ghazali...
This is the same unit which murdered Mr. Elie Hobeika,
Waleed Zein, Fares Sweidan and Mitri Ajram, on January 24th 2002.
The American Administartion of G.W.Bush keeps these Killers in Place
for all the wrong reasons of course, they utlimately hold the
responsibility of these crimes together with the Syrian Murderers.

Assassination Notes: Jumblat's Strains with Syria, U.S.Seem Easing....
*************************************************************************


Marwan Hamadeh's survival of the assassination attempt seems to have
strangely eased Walid Jumblat's strain with both the United States and
Syria. These are the anecdotes of the tragic event:
1-Syria's Vice President Abdul Halim Khaddam embraced and kissed Jumblat
as he hurriedly arrived from Damascus at the AUH. It was the first
gesture of peace-making since Jumblat clashed with the Assad regime over
strong-arming the Lebanese parliament to rubberstamp Lahoud's extension.

2-Although the Bush administration had withdrawn Jumblat's open-ended
U.S. visa, American ambassador Jeffrey Feltmen was the second foreign
diplomat to rush to the AUH after French ambassador Phillipe Le
Courtier. Feltmen shook hands with Jumblat and then conveyed well-wishes
to Hamadeh at his hospital bed for a speedy recovery.

3-Assistant Undersecretary of State David Satterfield, a former
ambassador to Beirut, called Jumblat by telephone from Washington to
convey the State Department's sorrow over Hamadeh's episode. State
Department deputy spokesman Adam Ereli strongly condemned Hamadeh's
assassination attempt as "vicious terrorist attack."

4-French President Jacques Chirac, who was in conference with German
Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder in Strasburg, called Premier Hariri by
telephone in Paris to deplore what he termed "this terrorist act."
Hamadeh is a French national because his mother was French.

5- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan expressed "serious concern" over
the Beirut car-bomb attempt to assassinate Marwan Hamadeh, reiterating
his "abhorrence of such violent acts."

6-Gen. Aoun called from his Paris exile on Syria's and Lebanon's
intelligence services to quickly "investigate and unmask this crime,
especially that they are the prime suspects."



Cases In Point....

The CIA 'old guard' goes to war with Bush
By Phillip Sherwell in Washington
A powerful "old guard" faction in the Central Intelligence Agency has
launched an unprecedented campaign to undermine the Bush administration
with a battery of damaging leaks and briefings about Iraq.

The White House is incensed by the increasingly public sniping from some
senior intelligence officers who, it believes, are conducting a partisan
operation to swing the election on November 2 in favour of John Kerry,
the Democratic candidate, and against George W Bush.

Head to head: Bush and Kerry Jim Pavitt, a 31-year CIA veteran who
retired as a departmental chief in August, said that he cannot recall a
time of such "viciousness and vindictiveness" in a battle between the
White House and the agency.

John Roberts, a conservative security analyst, commented bluntly: "When
the President cannot trust his own CIA, the nation faces dire consequences."

Relations between the White House and the agency are widely regarded as
being at their lowest ebb since the hopelessly botched Bay of Pigs
invasion of Cuba by CIA-sponsored exiles under President John F Kennedy
in 1961.

There is anger within the CIA that it has taken all the blame for the
failings of pre-war intelligence on Saddam Hussein's weapons programmes.

Former senior CIA officials argue that so-called "neo-conservative"
hawks such as the vice president, Dick Cheney, the secretary of defence,
Donald Rumsfeld, and his number three at the defence department, Douglas
Feith, have prompted the ill-feeling by demanding "politically
acceptable" results from the agency and rejecting conclusions they did
not like. Yet Colin Powell, the less hardline secretary of state, has
also been scathing in his criticism of pre-war intelligence briefings.

The leaks are also a shot across the bows of Porter Goss, the agency's
new director and a former Republican congressman. He takes over with
orders from the White House to end the in-fighting and revamp the
troubled spy agency as part of a radical overhaul of the American
intelligence world.

Bill Harlow, the former CIA spokesman who left with the former director
George Tenet in July, acknowledged that there had been leaks from within
the agency. "The intelligence community has been made the scapegoat for
all the failings over Iraq," he said. "It deserves some of the blame,
but not all of it. People are chafing at that, and that's the background
to these leaks."

Fighting to defend their patch ahead of the future review, anti-Bush CIA
operatives have ensured that Iraq remains high on the election campaign
agenda long after Republican strategists such as Karl Rove, the
President's closest adviser, had hoped that it would fade from the front
pages.

In the latest clash, a senior former CIA agent revealed that Mr Cheney
"blew up" when a report into links between the Saddam regime and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi, the terrorist behind the kidnappings and beheadings of
hostages in Iraq, including the Briton Kenneth Bigley, proved inconclusive.

Other recent leaks have included the contents of classified reports
drawn up by CIA analysts before the invasion of Iraq, warning the White
House about the dangers of post-war instability. Specifically, the
reports said that rogue Ba'athist elements might team up with terrorist
groups to wage a guerrilla war.

Critics of the White House include officials who have served in previous
Republican administrations such as Vince Cannistraro, a former CIA head
of counter-terrorism and member of the National Security Council under
Ronald Reagan.

"These have been an extraordinary four years for the CIA and the
political pressure to come up with the right results has been enormous,
particularly from Vice-President Cheney.

"I'm afraid that the agency is guilty of bending over backwards to
please the administration. George Tenet was desperate to give them what
they wanted and that was a complete disaster."

With the simmering rows breaking out in public, the Wall Street Journal
declared in an editorial that the administration was now fighting two
insurgencies: one in Iraq and one at the CIA.

In a difficult week for President Bush leading up to Friday's
presidential debate, the CIA-led Iraqi Survey Group confirmed that
Saddam had had no weapons of mass destruction, while Mr Rumsfeld
distanced himself from the administration's long-held assertion of ties
between Saddam and the al-Qaeda terror network.

Earlier, unguarded comments by Paul Bremer, the former American
administrator of Iraq who said that America "never had enough troops on
the ground", had given the row about post-war strategy on the ground
fresh impetus.

With just 23 days before the country votes for its next president, both
sides are braced for further bruising encounters.

*******************************************************************

Israel, Syria battle over U.S. ties
Israel and Syria are trading furious charges over who is trying to
undermine whom as Syria seeks to curry favor with the Bush
administration.

at http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041...2216-3348r.htm


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> Special Syrian Assassins of Assef Shawkat & Roustom Ghazali Working for
> Sharon and the Worst NEOCONS.
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> Karl Rove's White House " Murder, Inc."
>
> By Wayne Madsen .
> Online Journal Contributing Writer .
>
> OCT, 2004- On September 15, 2001, just four days after the 9-11 attacks,
> CIA Director George Tenet provided President [sic] Bush with a Top Secret
> "Worldwide Attack Matrix"-a virtual license to kill targets deemed to be a
> threat to the United States in some 80 countries around the world. The
> Tenet plan, which was subsequently approved by Bush, essentially reversed
> the executive orders of four previous U.S. administrations that expressly
> prohibited political assassinations.
>
> According to high level European intelligence officials, Bush's counselor,
> Karl Rove, used the new presidential authority to silence a popular
> Lebanese Christian politician who was planning to offer irrefutable
> evidence that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon authorized the massacre
> of hundreds of Palestinian men, women, and children in the Beirut refugee
> camps of Sabra and Shatilla in 1982. In addition, Sharon provided the
> Lebanese forces who carried out the grisly task. At the time of the
> massacres, Elie Hobeika was intelligence chief of Lebanese Christian
> forces in Lebanon who were battling Palestinians and other Muslim groups
> in a bloody civil war. He was also the chief liaison to Israeli Defense
> Force (IDF) personnel in Lebanon. An official Israeli inquiry into the
> massacre at the camps, the Kahan Commission, merely found Sharon
> "indirectly" responsible for the slaughter and fingered Hobeika as the
> chief instigator.
>
> The Kahan Commission never called on Hobeika to offer testimony in his
> defense. However, in response to charges brought against Sharon before a
> special war crimes court in Belgium, Hobeika was urged to testify against
> Sharon, according to well-informed Lebanese sources. Hobeika was prepared
> to offer a different version of events than what was contained in the
> Kahan report. A 1993 Belgian law permitting human rights prosecutions was
> unusual in that non-Belgians could be tried for violations against other
> non-Belgians in a Belgian court. Under pressure from the Bush
> administration, the law was severely amended and the extra territoriality
> provisions were curtailed.
>
> Hobeika headed the Lebanese forces intelligence agency since the mid-
> 1970s and he soon developed close ties to the CIA. He was a frequent
> visitor to the CIA's headquarters at Langley, Virginia. After the Syrian
> invasion of Lebanon in 1990, Hobeika held a number of cabinet positions in
> the Lebanese government, a proxy for the Syrian occupation authorities. He
> also served in the parliament. In July 2001, Hobeika called a press
> conference and announced he was prepared to testify against Sharon in
> Belgium and revealed that he had evidence of what actually occurred in
> Sabra and Shatilla. Hobeika also indicated that Israel had flown members
> of the South Lebanon Army (SLA) into Beirut International Airport in an
> Israeli Air Force C130 transport plane. In full view of dozens of
> witnesses, including members of the Lebanese army and others, SLA troops
> under the command of Major Saad Haddad were slipped into the camps to
> commit the massacres. The SLA troops were under the direct command of
> Ariel Sharon and an Israeli Mossad agent provocateur named Rafi Eitan.
> Hobeika offered evidence that a former U.S. ambassador to Lebanon was
> aware of the Israeli plot. In addition, the IDF had placed a camera in a
> strategic position to film the Sabra and Shatilla massacres. Hobeika was
> going to ask that the footage be released as part of the investigation of
> Sharon.
>
> After announcing he was willing to testify against Sharon, Hobeika became
> fearful for his safety and began moves to leave Lebanon. Hobeika was not
> aware that his threats to testify against Sharon had triggered a series of
> fateful events that reached well into the White House and Sharon's office.
>
> On January 24, 2002, Hobeika's car was blown up by a remote controlled
> bomb placed in a parked Mercedes along a street in the Hazmieh section of
> Beirut. The bomb exploded when Hobeika and his three associates, Fares
> Souweidan, Mitri Ajram, and Waleed Zein, were driving their Range Rover
> past the TNT-laden Mercedes at 9:40 am Beirut time. The Range Rover's four
> passengers were killed in the explosion. In case Hobeika's car had taken
> another route
>
> through the neighborhood, two additional parked cars, located at two other
> choke points, were also rigged with TNT. The powerful bomb wounded a
> number of other people on the street. Other parked cars were destroyed and
> buildings and homes were damaged. The Lebanese president, prime minister,
> and interior minister all claimed that Israeli agents were behind the
> attack.
>
> It is noteworthy that the State Department's list of global terrorist
> incidents for 2002 worldwide failed to list the car bombing attack on
> Hobeika and his party. The White House wanted to ensure the attack was
> censored from the report. The reason was simple: the attack ultimately had
> Washington's fingerprints on it.
>
> High level European intelligence sources now report that Karl Rove
> personally coordinated Hobeika's assassination. The hit on Hobeika
> employed Syrian intelligence agents. Syrian President Bashar Assad was
> trying to curry favor with the Bush administration in the aftermath of
> 9-11 and was more than willing to help the White House. In addition,
> Assad's father, Hafez Assad, had been an ally of Bush's father during
> Desert Storm, a period that saw Washington give a "wink and a nod" to
> Syria's occupation of Lebanon. Rove wanted to help Sharon avoid any
> political embarrassment from an in absentia trial in Brussels where
> Hobeika would be a star witness. Rove and Sharon agreed on the plan to use
> Syrian Military Intelligence agents to assassinate Hobeika. Rove saw
> Sharon as an indispensable ally of Bush in ensuring the loyalty of the
> Christian evangelical and Jewish voting blocs in the United States. Sharon
> saw the plan to have the United States coordinate the hit as a way to mask
> all connections to Jerusalem.
>
> The Syrian hit team was ordered by Assef Shawkat, the number two man in
> Syrian military intelligence and a good friend and brother in law of
> Syrian President Bashar Assad. Assad's intelligence services had already
> cooperated with U.S. intelligence in resorting to unconventional methods
> to extract information from al Qaeda detainees deported to Syria from the
> United States and other countries in the wake of 9-11. The order to take
> out Hobeika was transmitted by Shawkat to Roustom Ghazali, the head of
> Syrian military intelligence in Beirut. Ghazali arranged for the three
> remote controlled cars to be parked along Hobeika's route in Hazmieh; only
> few hundred yards from the Barracks of Syrian Special Forces which are
> stationed in the area near the Presidential palace , the ministry of
> Defense and various Government and officers quarters . This particular
> area is covered 24/7 by a very sophisticated USA multi-agency surveillance
> system to monitor Syrian and Lebanese security activities and is a "
> Choice " area to live in for its perceived high security .... [Courtesy of
> the Special Collections Services.] ... SCS... ; CIA & NSA & DIA....
>
>
> The plan to kill Hobeika had all the necessary caveats and built-in denial
> mechanisms. If the Syrians were discovered beforehand or afterwards, Karl
> Rove and his associates in the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans would be
> ensured plausible deniability.
>
> Hobeika's CIA intermediary in Beirut, a man only referred to as "Jason" by
> Hobeika, was a frequent companion of the Lebanese politician during
> official and off-duty hours. During Hobeika's election campaigns for his
> parliamentary seat, Jason was often in Hobeika's office offering support
> and advice. After Hobeika's assassination, Jason became despondent over
> the death of his colleague. Eventually, Jason disappeared abruptly from
> Lebanon and reportedly later emerged in Pakistan.
>
> Karl Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika may not have been
> the last "hit" he ordered to help out Sharon. In March 2002, a few months
> after Hobeika's assassination, another Lebanese Christian with knowledge
> of Sharon's involvement in the Sabra and Shatilla massacres was gunned
> down along with his wife in Sao Paulo, Brazil. A bullet fired at Michael
> Nassar's car flattened one of his tires. Nassar pulled into a gasoline
> station for repairs. A professional assassin, firing a gun with a
> silencer, shot Nassar and his wife in the head, killing them both
> instantly. The assailant fled and was never captured. Nassar was also
> involved with the Phalange militia at Sabra and Shatilla. Nassar was also
> reportedly willing to testify against Sharon in Belgium and, as a nephew
> of SLA Commander General Antoine Lahd, may have had important evidence to
> bolster Hobeika's charge that Sharon ordered SLA forces into the camps to
> wipe out the Palestinians.
>
> Based on what European intelligence claims is concrete intelligence on
> Rove's involvement in the assassination of Hobeika, the Bush
> administration can now add political assassination to its laundry list of
> other misdeeds, from lying about the reasons to go to war to the torture
> tactics in violation of the Geneva Conventions that have been employed by
> the Pentagon and "third country" nationals at prisons in Iraq and
> Guantanamo Bay.
>
> Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and
> columnist. He served in the National Security Agency (NSA) during the
> Reagan administration and wrote the introduction to Forbidden Truth. He is
> the co-author, with John Stanton, of "America's Nightmare: The Presidency
> of George Bush II." His forthcoming book is titled: "Jaded Tasks: Big Oil,
> Black Ops, and Brass Plates." Madsen can be reached at:
> [email protected]
>
> This is some of the evidence for you and for the World ....
> *********************************************
>
>
> ~~~encrypted/logs/access ~~~
>
> Not to mention hundreds of private companies and governments. Anyway...
> *********************************************************
>
> Lines 10-36
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> " <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> The Group of Killers who planted the bombs to KILL Marwan Hamade are
> the Same Group of Killer Murderers Belonging to a Special Unit in the
> Syrian Military Intelligence Apparatus, I.E. a Group of thugs and
> Bloodthirthty Killers ordered by Assef Shawkat in person.
>
> The orders get carried out by the chief Killer Roustom Ghazali...
> This is the same unit which murdered Mr. Elie Hobeika,
> Waleed Zein, Fares Sweidan and Mitri Ajram, on January 24th 2002.
> The American Administartion of G.W.Bush keeps these Killers in Place
> for all the wrong reasons of course, they utlimately hold the
> responsibility of these crimes together with the Syrian Murderers.
>
> Assassination Notes: Jumblat's Strains with Syria, U.S.Seem Easing....
> *************************************************************************
>
>
> Marwan Hamadeh's survival of the assassination attempt seems to have
> strangely eased Walid Jumblat's strain with both the United States and
> Syria. These are the anecdotes of the tragic event:
> 1-Syria's Vice President Abdul Halim Khaddam embraced and kissed Jumblat
> as he hurriedly arrived from Damascus at the AUH. It was the first
> gesture of peace-making since Jumblat clashed with the Assad regime over
> strong-arming the Lebanese parliament to rubberstamp Lahoud's extension.
>
> 2-Although the Bush administration had withdrawn Jumblat's open-ended
> U.S. visa, American ambassador Jeffrey Feltmen was the second foreign
> diplomat to rush to the AUH after French ambassador Phillipe Le
> Courtier. Feltmen shook hands with Jumblat and then conveyed well-wishes
> to Hamadeh at his hospital bed for a speedy recovery.
>
> 3-Assistant Undersecretary of State David Satterfield, a former
> ambassador to Beirut, called Jumblat by telephone from Washington to
> convey the State Department's sorrow over Hamadeh's episode. State
> Department deputy spokesman Adam Ereli strongly condemned Hamadeh's
> assassination attempt as "vicious terrorist attack."
>
> 4-French President Jacques Chirac, who was in conference with German
> Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder in Strasburg, called Premier Hariri by
> telephone in Paris to deplore what he termed "this terrorist act."
> Hamadeh is a French national because his mother was French.
>
> 5- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan expressed "serious concern" over
> the Beirut car-bomb attempt to assassinate Marwan Hamadeh, reiterating
> his "abhorrence of such violent acts."
>
> 6-Gen. Aoun called from his Paris exile on Syria's and Lebanon's
> intelligence services to quickly "investigate and unmask this crime,
> especially that they are the prime suspects."
>
>
>
> Cases In Point....
>
> The CIA 'old guard' goes to war with Bush
> By Phillip Sherwell in Washington
> A powerful "old guard" faction in the Central Intelligence Agency has
> launched an unprecedented campaign to undermine the Bush administration
> with a battery of damaging leaks and briefings about Iraq.
>
> The White House is incensed by the increasingly public sniping from some
> senior intelligence officers who, it believes, are conducting a partisan
> operation to swing the election on November 2 in favour of John Kerry,
> the Democratic candidate, and against George W Bush.
>
> Head to head: Bush and Kerry Jim Pavitt, a 31-year CIA veteran who
> retired as a departmental chief in August, said that he cannot recall a
> time of such "viciousness and vindictiveness" in a battle between the
> White House and the agency.
>
> John Roberts, a conservative security analyst, commented bluntly: "When
> the President cannot trust his own CIA, the nation faces dire
> consequences."
>
> Relations between the White House and the agency are widely regarded as
> being at their lowest ebb since the hopelessly botched Bay of Pigs
> invasion of Cuba by CIA-sponsored exiles under President John F Kennedy
> in 1961.
>
> There is anger within the CIA that it has taken all the blame for the
> failings of pre-war intelligence on Saddam Hussein's weapons programmes.
>
> Former senior CIA officials argue that so-called "neo-conservative"
> hawks such as the vice president, Dick Cheney, the secretary of defence,
> Donald Rumsfeld, and his number three at the defence department, Douglas
> Feith, have prompted the ill-feeling by demanding "politically
> acceptable" results from the agency and rejecting conclusions they did
> not like. Yet Colin Powell, the less hardline secretary of state, has
> also been scathing in his criticism of pre-war intelligence briefings.
>
> The leaks are also a shot across the bows of Porter Goss, the agency's
> new director and a former Republican congressman. He takes over with
> orders from the White House to end the in-fighting and revamp the
> troubled spy agency as part of a radical overhaul of the American
> intelligence world.
>
> Bill Harlow, the former CIA spokesman who left with the former director
> George Tenet in July, acknowledged that there had been leaks from within
> the agency. "The intelligence community has been made the scapegoat for
> all the failings over Iraq," he said. "It deserves some of the blame,
> but not all of it. People are chafing at that, and that's the background
> to these leaks."
>
> Fighting to defend their patch ahead of the future review, anti-Bush CIA
> operatives have ensured that Iraq remains high on the election campaign
> agenda long after Republican strategists such as Karl Rove, the
> President's closest adviser, had hoped that it would fade from the front
> pages.
>
> In the latest clash, a senior former CIA agent revealed that Mr Cheney
> "blew up" when a report into links between the Saddam regime and Abu
> Musab al-Zarqawi, the terrorist behind the kidnappings and beheadings of
> hostages in Iraq, including the Briton Kenneth Bigley, proved
> inconclusive.
>
> Other recent leaks have included the contents of classified reports
> drawn up by CIA analysts before the invasion of Iraq, warning the White
> House about the dangers of post-war instability. Specifically, the
> reports said that rogue Ba'athist elements might team up with terrorist
> groups to wage a guerrilla war.
>
> Critics of the White House include officials who have served in previous
> Republican administrations such as Vince Cannistraro, a former CIA head
> of counter-terrorism and member of the National Security Council under
> Ronald Reagan.
>
> "These have been an extraordinary four years for the CIA and the
> political pressure to come up with the right results has been enormous,
> particularly from Vice-President Cheney.
>
> "I'm afraid that the agency is guilty of bending over backwards to
> please the administration. George Tenet was desperate to give them what
> they wanted and that was a complete disaster."
>
> With the simmering rows breaking out in public, the Wall Street Journal
> declared in an editorial that the administration was now fighting two
> insurgencies: one in Iraq and one at the CIA.
>
> In a difficult week for President Bush leading up to Friday's
> presidential debate, the CIA-led Iraqi Survey Group confirmed that
> Saddam had had no weapons of mass destruction, while Mr Rumsfeld
> distanced himself from the administration's long-held assertion of ties
> between Saddam and the al-Qaeda terror network.
>
> Earlier, unguarded comments by Paul Bremer, the former American
> administrator of Iraq who said that America "never had enough troops on
> the ground", had given the row about post-war strategy on the ground
> fresh impetus.
>
> With just 23 days before the country votes for its next president, both
> sides are braced for further bruising encounters.
>
> *******************************************************************
>
> Israel, Syria battle over U.S. ties
> Israel and Syria are trading furious charges over who is trying to
> undermine whom as Syria seeks to curry favor with the Bush
> administration.
>
> at http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041...2216-3348r.htm
>
>
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