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  1. #16
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    [email protected] wrote:

    > I will be paying less per month to Cingular for more minutes and no
    > roaming than I paid to Sprint.


    OK, I understand now. Yes, Cingular is typically somewhat less expensive than
    Sprint.

    > In the Cingular plans, even on the local plans, in your home area, you
    > do not pay roaming.


    Same with the local plans from the other carriers... I was just curious about
    Cingular because I don't use them and therefore may not be completely
    up-to-date on what their calling plans are.


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  2. #17

    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:57:13 -0700, Steve Sobol <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >> In the Cingular plans, even on the local plans, in your home area, you
    >> do not pay roaming.

    >
    >Same with the local plans from the other carriers... I was just curious about
    >Cingular because I don't use them and therefore may not be completely
    >up-to-date on what their calling plans are.


    I think they have revamped some recently, there were some differences
    from earlier this year when I started researching.

    All I know is that I now have a service that appears to work pretty
    much everywhere I've been in the last two days, even when the Sprint
    phone got no signal. Granted I haven't been to all the places I
    usually go, but the travel starts soon.


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  3. #18
    John Richards
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Cingular offers free roaming, vs. having to pay extra for it with
    > Sprint.


    The reason Cingular can afford to offer free roaming is because there
    is little to roam to. Who else but AT&T is Cingular's roaming partner?
    Unlike Sprint, Cingular's phones won't do the old analog AMPS, so
    if you're out in the boonies with a Cingular phone, you're SOL.

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  4. #19
    Lunchboxx
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    with cingular and att roaming together you dont need anything else



  5. #20
    John Navas
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Wed, 06 Oct 2004
    18:01:11 GMT, "John Richards" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    ><[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...


    >> Cingular offers free roaming, vs. having to pay extra for it with
    >> Sprint.


    Not entirely. For example, I have a Cingular Nation Plan, and I'm not allowed
    to roam on ATTWS here in California, free or fee.

    >The reason Cingular can afford to offer free roaming is because there
    >is little to roam to. Who else but AT&T is Cingular's roaming partner?


    T-Mobile, and quite a few smaller carriers.

    >Unlike Sprint, Cingular's phones won't do the old analog AMPS, so
    >if you're out in the boonies with a Cingular phone, you're SOL.


    Depends on the boonies -- I've gotten GSM coverage in surprising places (e.g.,
    when sailing well offshore).

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  6. #21
    John Navas
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:03:10
    -0500, Lunchboxx <[email protected]> wrote:

    >with cingular and att roaming together you dont need anything else


    In many places, but not all places.

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    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  7. #22
    Chris Russell
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    When I had the Cingular GAIT Nation plan I roamed on ATTWS, T-Mobile,
    USCellular (USA 260, 340 350, 370,etc.), Einstein PCS, Iowa Wireless and a
    number of others I couldn't get a name for-all on GSM/TDMA digital. If you
    have to go off the beaten path like I do in my 18 wheeler, Cingular GSM
    plans will be useless to you. I get better coverage with my SPCS Free &
    Clear plan w/$5 America option.

    Chris

    "John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote in
    message news:[email protected]...
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Cingular offers free roaming, vs. having to pay extra for it with
    >> Sprint.

    >
    > The reason Cingular can afford to offer free roaming is because there
    > is little to roam to. Who else but AT&T is Cingular's roaming partner?
    > Unlike Sprint, Cingular's phones won't do the old analog AMPS, so
    > if you're out in the boonies with a Cingular phone, you're SOL.
    >
    > --
    > John Richards






  8. #23
    Steve Grauman
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    >If you
    >have to go off the beaten path like I do in my 18 wheeler, Cingular GSM
    >plans will be useless to you.


    My problem with Sprint is that everyone I know who has it gets **** signal even
    when they're ON the beaten path. I'm well aware that network service is better
    in some areas than others and that some providers have better coverage than
    others in specific cities, but where I live, Sprint is only a worthwhile option
    because they offer the least expensive plans. My AT&T GSM service works 1,000
    times better than my old analog setup did, and better than Sprint about 90% of
    the time. And now that they're merging with Cingular, my coverage is improving
    on a near daily basis. I've had the phone in Nevada and Arizona since the
    merger, in some fairly remote stretches, and it always finds a signal.
    Steve Grauman



  9. #24
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

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    >>Unlike Sprint, Cingular's phones won't do the old analog AMPS, so
    >>if you're out in the boonies with a Cingular phone, you're SOL.

    >
    > Depends on the boonies -- I've gotten GSM coverage in surprising places (e.g.,
    > when sailing well offshore).
    >


    Ironically - Minnesota is well covered with GSM since the 850MHz
    migration. You can do pretty well with a GSM dual-band phone.

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  10. #25
    Aravind
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    "John R. Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
    > The following website shows network information for 47 Indian GSM
    > networks.
    > http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou in.shtml
    > Thirteen networks run GSM1800, while two others run dual GSM900/1800.
    > All the remainder in India run only GSM900.
    > Verify that your phone will respond to GSM900 and/or GSM1800
    > before trying to swap in an Indian SIM card.
    > India appears to be GSM-compatible with Europe, but as Bob pointed out,
    > that does not guarantee your U.S. phone will work there.
    > ---JRC---


    Thanks, John, for the great info and the website. I guess the V400
    would cover all these freqs if I went with cingular. Thanks again.

    Aravind



  11. #26
    Aravind
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    > In <[email protected]> on Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:03:10
    > -0500, Lunchboxx <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >with cingular and att roaming together you dont need anything else

    >
    > In many places, but not all places.


    Thanks everybody, the info given by everyone was outstanding, to say
    the least, especially to a novice like me. Appreciate all your
    comments, I learnt a heck of a lot.

    Aravind



  12. #27
    Aravind
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    Steve Sobol <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected] wrote:
    >
    > > I will be paying less per month to Cingular for more minutes and no
    > > roaming than I paid to Sprint.

    >


    I do agree, I think. However, addons like adding roaming to a
    two-phone shared plan costs $14/mo, it is kind of expensive compared
    to Sprint ($5?).

    Aravind



  13. #28
    Aravind
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    Lunchboxx <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > with cingular and att roaming together you dont need anything else


    Looking at the Cingular coverage map of April 2003 and comparing it
    with today's, it does appear that coverage has increased almost 3
    times. Going by this rate of increase in coverage it does appear
    promising for the future, I guess. The local Cingular rep tells me
    that Cingular hopes to finish expanding coverage by end of 2005 and
    that by then almost the whole country is likely to be covered.

    I guess the truth would lie somewhere in between.

    Aravind



  14. #29
    Aravind
    Guest

    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    "Chris Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > When I had the Cingular GAIT Nation plan I roamed on ATTWS, T-Mobile,
    > USCellular (USA 260, 340 350, 370,etc.), Einstein PCS, Iowa Wireless and a
    > number of others I couldn't get a name for-all on GSM/TDMA digital. If you
    > have to go off the beaten path like I do in my 18 wheeler, Cingular GSM
    > plans will be useless to you. I get better coverage with my SPCS Free &
    > Clear plan w/$5 America option.
    >
    > Chris
    >
    >


    It appears that the GAIT plan is not offered by cingular anymore
    (probably it would cost a lot more). Wouldn't it be great if
    agreements were in place where all cell phones work in everyone's
    network!

    Aravind



  15. #30
    Aravind
    Guest

    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    Frank Harris <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Aravind - I don't know about your (potential) Cingular GSM phone, but
    > some GSM phones sold by US providers are "SIM-locked" to that provider,
    > so only that provider's SIM will work in their phones. A SIM bought in
    > India wouldn't work with such a phone. Some US providers (T-Mobile,
    > I've heard) will give you the code to unlock your phone after you've had
    > it for a certain number of months.
    >



    Thanks, Frank. I am planning on the Motorola V400 and apparently it
    comes unlocked from Cingular and since it works on both 1800/900
    freqs, I guess it may be the right one for me.

    Aravind



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