longest talk / hibernating phone?

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In <[email protected]> on Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:18:27 -0500, Jer
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Vigo wrote:
>
>> I carry my Motorola in my purse and if I set it to vibrate/ring, I don't
>> know it's ringing until the 3rd ring and by the time I get the purse open
>> and find the phone it has answered in voice mail. That's another complaint -
>> voice mail takes over at the 4th ring, which isn't always enough time for me
>> to get to my phone, especially if I'm driving and it's in my purse. Why
>> can't Motorola make that option customizable so that it will ring longer
>> before voice mail picks up?
>>
>> Not really expecting an answer to that question, just venting.
>
>The time interval (not ring count) can be adjusted in the carrier's
>equipment. Unfortuantely, this fact isn't currently part of the
>customer's list of choices.

Standard GSM code:

Divert Voice Calls, No Answer
Delay nn seconds: max 30 seconds, in 5 second increments
Set: **61*destination*11*nn#[SEND]
Cancel: ##61*11#[SEND]
Query: *#61*11#[SEND]

May not work on all networks, but does work on Cingular.
The "destination" is your voice mailbox number, not your mobile number!
Do a Query first to get the correct destination number.

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Joseph wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:58:02 -0500, Jer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Joseph wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:18:27 -0500, Jer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The time interval (not ring count) can be adjusted in the carrier's
>>>>equipment. Unfortuantely, this fact isn't currently part of the
>>>>customer's list of choices.
>>>
>>>
>>>For GSM subscribers it's already available through use of *#
>>>(star/hash) codes. It can be found several places on the net readily.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>However, I've been hearing rumours that some carriers are shopping with
>>>>their equipment suppliers for a new feature which may impact this.
>>>>Likely to be marketed under more than one name (depending on the
>>>>carrier's marketing dept), it's a way for the customer to provide a
>>>>personalised audible ring-back for when others call. In lieu of the
>>>>standard, interrupted ring-ring one hears now before answer, one would
>>>>presumably hear some sort of audio clip of the wireless customer's
>>>>preference.
>>>
>>>
>>>That service is already available with T-Mobile in the UK.
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>>>
>>
>>Okay, didn't know that, I'm still curious.... is the ring interval
>>adjustable? What seems to be the popular use of it?
>
>
> I just told you it is adjustable using *# codes. Why use it? Some
> people can't get to their phone immediately for one reason or another
> and would rather take the call than let it roll to voicemail. It may
> just be personal preference.
>
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>


Oh, yeah, you did mention the codes. As far as one's preference is
concerned, I can see where some may prefer a long time interval to allow
their brag clip to play through. All I want is an opt-out capability,
like pressing a key to push my call past all the drivel.

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John Navas wrote:


> Standard GSM code:
>
> Divert Voice Calls, No Answer
> Delay nn seconds: max 30 seconds, in 5 second increments
> Set: **61*destination*11*nn#[SEND]
> Cancel: ##61*11#[SEND]
> Query: *#61*11#[SEND]
>
> May not work on all networks, but does work on Cingular.
> The "destination" is your voice mailbox number, not your mobile number!
> Do a Query first to get the correct destination number.
>


Noted. Thanks much.

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John Navas wrote:

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>
> In <[email protected]> on Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:18:27 -0500, Jer
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Vigo wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I carry my Motorola in my purse and if I set it to vibrate/ring, I don't
>>>know it's ringing until the 3rd ring and by the time I get the purse open
>>>and find the phone it has answered in voice mail. That's another complaint -
>>>voice mail takes over at the 4th ring, which isn't always enough time for me
>>>to get to my phone, especially if I'm driving and it's in my purse. Why
>>>can't Motorola make that option customizable so that it will ring longer
>>>before voice mail picks up?
>>>
>>>Not really expecting an answer to that question, just venting.
>>
>>The time interval (not ring count) can be adjusted in the carrier's
>>equipment. Unfortuantely, this fact isn't currently part of the
>>customer's list of choices.
>
>
> Standard GSM code:
>
> Divert Voice Calls, No Answer
> Delay nn seconds: max 30 seconds, in 5 second increments
> Set: **61*destination*11*nn#[SEND]
> Cancel: ##61*11#[SEND]
> Query: *#61*11#[SEND]
>
> May not work on all networks, but does work on Cingular.
> The "destination" is your voice mailbox number, not your mobile number!
> Do a Query first to get the correct destination number.
>


hmmm... having just tried the query, "Request unknown - please try
again". Thankfully, I do know the VM destination number, I just don't
know the time interval currently set.

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"Richie" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
Perhaps you have on hand the link or address to find those sanyo batteries??
THX
Scott

> The Nokia 3120 has long talk time (6 hours according to the Cingular
> website).
>
> BTW, Sanyo makes OEM batteries for many phone and computer manufacturers.
> They have excellent battery technology.
>
> "Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Coming from sprint looking for a phone with similar performance to the
> > sanyo line of phone. The only thing I really will miss is the sanyo
> > phone. I forget after days as to when it was charged last. The
> > batteries last me for years and actually have one over 3 years old
> > that still works like new. If anyone else here knows what i'm talking
> > about, please let me know which they recommend. Is it at all possible
> > to bring the phone over with me? Only other things I like are
> > reception and sound quality with the reception being very good for the
> > sanyo on such a ****ty network. Thoughts?
> > Thanks
> > Scott

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In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:30:55 -0500, Jer
<[email protected]> wrote:

>... As far as one's preference is
>concerned, I can see where some may prefer a long time interval to allow
>their brag clip to play through. All I want is an opt-out capability,
>like pressing a key to push my call past all the drivel.

There's no such option for the caller, only for the callee.

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John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:39:43 -0500, Jer
<[email protected]> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:

>> Standard GSM code:
>>
>> Divert Voice Calls, No Answer
>> Delay nn seconds: max 30 seconds, in 5 second increments
>> Set: **61*destination*11*nn#[SEND]
>> Cancel: ##61*11#[SEND]
>> Query: *#61*11#[SEND]
>>
>> May not work on all networks, but does work on Cingular.
>> The "destination" is your voice mailbox number, not your mobile number!
>> Do a Query first to get the correct destination number.
>
>hmmm... having just tried the query, "Request unknown - please try
>again". Thankfully, I do know the VM destination number, I just don't
>know the time interval currently set.

The Query should work if you're on Cingular GSM. If it doesn't, then the Set
option probably won't work either.

Make sure you enter the correct sequence.

I think the default interval is 15 secs, but you can easily test it (from
another phone).

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John Navas wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:30:55 -0500, Jer
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>... As far as one's preference is
>>concerned, I can see where some may prefer a long time interval to allow
>>their brag clip to play through. All I want is an opt-out capability,
>>like pressing a key to push my call past all the drivel.
>
>
> There's no such option for the caller, only for the callee.
>


I think you're right, and that's why the option sucks. IMHO.

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John Navas wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:39:43 -0500, Jer
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>John Navas wrote:
>
>
>>>Standard GSM code:
>>>
>>> Divert Voice Calls, No Answer
>>> Delay nn seconds: max 30 seconds, in 5 second increments
>>> Set: **61*destination*11*nn#[SEND]
>>> Cancel: ##61*11#[SEND]
>>> Query: *#61*11#[SEND]
>>>
>>>May not work on all networks, but does work on Cingular.
>>>The "destination" is your voice mailbox number, not your mobile number!
>>>Do a Query first to get the correct destination number.
>>
>>hmmm... having just tried the query, "Request unknown - please try
>>again". Thankfully, I do know the VM destination number, I just don't
>>know the time interval currently set.
>
>
> The Query should work if you're on Cingular GSM. If it doesn't, then the Set
> option probably won't work either.
>
> Make sure you enter the correct sequence.
>
> I think the default interval is 15 secs, but you can easily test it (from
> another phone).
>


I just tried it again, twice, same results. Right now, I'm on Cingular
GSM in Dallas. I'll check with my Cingular buddy during the week.

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In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:01:04 -0500, Jer
<[email protected]> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>
>> In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:30:55 -0500, Jer
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>... As far as one's preference is
>>>concerned, I can see where some may prefer a long time interval to allow
>>>their brag clip to play through. All I want is an opt-out capability,
>>>like pressing a key to push my call past all the drivel.
>>
>> There's no such option for the caller, only for the callee.
>
>I think you're right, and that's why the option sucks. IMHO.

As a callee, I feel differently.

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John Navas wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:01:04 -0500, Jer
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>John Navas wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:30:55 -0500, Jer
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>... As far as one's preference is
>>>>concerned, I can see where some may prefer a long time interval to allow
>>>>their brag clip to play through. All I want is an opt-out capability,
>>>>like pressing a key to push my call past all the drivel.
>>>
>>>There's no such option for the caller, only for the callee.
>>
>>I think you're right, and that's why the option sucks. IMHO.
>
>
> As a callee, I feel differently.
>

I'm not surprised a callee would John, I expect to be bumping into one
billboard after another when this new flavour of crap kicks in around
here. I see this as just another opportunity for pseudo-marketers to
exploit another moment of my precious time, with no provision for an
opt-out. Know this, if I ever feel this crap is being foisted upon me,
I'm not going to keep quiet about it - I'll be letting the callee know
my opinion about his/her version of trailer trash announcements - and
I'm won't be nice about it. It's business, John, I'm not obligated to
be nice about it.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:35:56 -0500, Jer
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm not surprised a callee would John, I expect to be bumping into one
>billboard after another when this new flavour of crap kicks in around
>here. I see this as just another opportunity for pseudo-marketers to
>exploit another moment of my precious time, with no provision for an
>opt-out.

If the ring time is the same either way, then no moment of your "precious
time" is being wasted.

>Know this, if I ever feel this crap is being foisted upon me,
>I'm not going to keep quiet about it - I'll be letting the callee know
>my opinion about his/her version of trailer trash announcements - and
>I'm won't be nice about it. It's business, John, I'm not obligated to
>be nice about it.

It's sometimes business, sometimes personal. Regardless, if you don't like
the ring tone, then don't call again -- being nasty isn't ever justified.

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