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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> MEdia is a better value because it includes EDGE, whereas T-Mobile is
> currently just GPRS. EDGE is about 2.5x the speed of GPRS.



Do you have any idea when EDGE would show up in the WA market?
the local store personel seem to be spectacularly uninformed, and
calling 611 has given me conflicting answers. (including "what is EDGE?")

Bernard

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In <TURfd.13102$5O4.1532@trnddc07> on Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:36:35 GMT, "Bernard
Farquart" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> MEdia is a better value because it includes EDGE, whereas T-Mobile is
>> currently just GPRS. EDGE is about 2.5x the speed of GPRS.
>
>Do you have any idea when EDGE would show up in the WA market?
>the local store personel seem to be spectacularly uninformed, and
>calling 611 has given me conflicting answers. (including "what is EDGE?")

<http://www.cingular.com/business/gprs_edge_coverage>
EDGE is shown as being available in Washington state.
Current coverage map is <http://www.cingular.com/download/Gprs-Edge_07_29.pdf>
Most (but not all) Washington state data coverage appears to be EDGE-enabled.

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> <http://www.cingular.com/business/gprs_edge_coverage>
> EDGE is shown as being available in Washington state.
> Current coverage map is
> <http://www.cingular.com/download/Gprs-Edge_07_29.pdf>
> Most (but not all) Washington state data coverage appears to be
> EDGE-enabled.

Uhh, not to seem too obtuse, but how would I know if I
were using an EDGE network as opposed to regular
GPRS? I get 50kbps downloads when I go to DSL reports
on my tethered laptop, my understanding was that that was
typical for regular GPRS network speeds. Am I waiting for
an improvement that is not going to appear?

I have a V 400 that shows GPRS active during my
surfing, and I use mobile phone tools to connect.
(I know you insist it is unnecessary, but windows
won't work the phone for me without it.)

Would it say something else if it were an EDGE
network? I actually am pretty O.K. with the speeds
I get as it is, but hey, more is always better, right?

Bernard

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In <A41gd.6385$dW.1160@trnddc08> on Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:20:00 GMT, "Bernard
Farquart" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> <http://www.cingular.com/business/gprs_edge_coverage>
>> EDGE is shown as being available in Washington state.
>> Current coverage map is
>> <http://www.cingular.com/download/Gprs-Edge_07_29.pdf>
>> Most (but not all) Washington state data coverage appears to be
>> EDGE-enabled.
>
>Uhh, not to seem too obtuse, but how would I know if I
>were using an EDGE network as opposed to regular
>GPRS?

AFAIK, only by inference (speed).

>I get 50kbps downloads when I go to DSL reports
>on my tethered laptop, my understanding was that that was
>typical for regular GPRS network speeds.

That's a good GPRS speed, and thus is probably not EDGE.

>Am I waiting for
>an improvement that is not going to appear?

Hard to say.

>I have a V 400 that shows GPRS active during my
>surfing, and I use mobile phone tools to connect.
>(I know you insist it is unnecessary, but windows
>won't work the phone for me without it.)

The V400 isn't EDGE-capable -- you need an EDGE-capable handset (e.g., V551,
due to be released RSN) or PC Card (e.g., Sony Ericsson GC8x) to use EDGE.

>Would it say something else if it were an EDGE
>network?

Not AFAIK.

>I actually am pretty O.K. with the speeds
>I get as it is, but hey, more is always better, right?

My typical EDGE speeds (on Cingular in Northern California) are 2x - 2.5x GPRS
speeds on downlink, and even better than that ratio on uplink.

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> The V400 isn't EDGE-capable -- you need an EDGE-capable handset (e.g.,
> V551,
> due to be released RSN) or PC Card (e.g., Sony Ericsson GC8x) to use EDGE.

AH HA!
Well, that would explain it then.

Thanks, I thought EDGE was just hopped up GPRS,
I didn't know I needed a different phone.

I guess I will deal with what I have for now, as I
like the phone otherwise.

Thanks

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In <rhdgd.5296$jD4.2876@trnddc06> on Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:12:55 GMT, "Bernard
Farquart" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> The V400 isn't EDGE-capable -- you need an EDGE-capable handset (e.g.,
>> V551,
>> due to be released RSN) or PC Card (e.g., Sony Ericsson GC8x) to use EDGE.
>
>AH HA!
>Well, that would explain it then.
>
>Thanks, I thought EDGE was just hopped up GPRS,
>I didn't know I needed a different phone.

EDGE is indeed "hopped up GPRS" -- the data protocol is called EGPRS (Enhanced
GPRS, or Enhanced General Packet Radio Service) -- but is sufficiently
different from GPRS to require a different phone.

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